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Old 05-11-2012, 02:01 AM   #1376
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:56 AM   #1377
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Remington 870 police trade ins, pistol grip, flashlight, sights etc. (must be registered as an SBS)

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Old 05-13-2012, 10:08 AM   #1378
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I didn't make it yesterday but I'll try and stop by today sometime.
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:21 PM   #1379
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What would you guys do in my situation:

I have around $750 in cash from selling my Tantal AK-74.

My original plan was to get an amazing new Waffen Werks AK-74.



http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct979.aspx

But, they are super backordered or something, I can never find them in stock, even at RRC.

I came across the CZ P07 at a gun shop, and I was pretty impressed from just holding it. It fit in my hand really nice, everything was very tight and it was very ergonomic.



http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-p07-duty/

So what would you guys go with? I really want the AK-74, but I have no real sidearm or carry piece to speak of. My current stable includes a WASR-10/63 (AK-47), Mossberg 500 12G, single shot 12G, and a Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum . I'm leaning towards the CZ here because the GP100 I have is much too large to carry, I already have an AK battle rifle, AND the CZ can be had for much cheaper than the Waffen Werks rifle ($450ish for the CZ, $750+ for the Waffen).

Anyone have any personal experience on this pistol, or any suggestions? Don't think think I'm not looking at other guns as well, these two are just in the top spot right now.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:22 PM   #1380
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What would you guys do in my situation:

I have around $750 in cash from selling my Tantal AK-74.

My original plan was to get an amazing new Waffen Werks AK-74.



http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct979.aspx

But, they are super backordered or something, I can never find them in stock, even at RRC.

I came across the CZ P07 at a gun shop, and I was pretty impressed from just holding it. It fit in my hand really nice, everything was very tight and it was very ergonomic.



http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-p07-duty/

So what would you guys go with? I really want the AK-74, but I have no real sidearm or carry piece to speak of. My current stable includes a WASR-10/63 (AK-47), Mossberg 500 12G, single shot 12G, and a Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum . I'm leaning towards the CZ here because the GP100 I have is much too large to carry, I already have an AK battle rifle, AND the CZ can be had for much cheaper than the Waffen Werks rifle ($450ish for the CZ, $750+ for the Waffen).

Anyone have any personal experience on this pistol, or any suggestions? Don't think think I'm not looking at other guns as well, these two are just in the top spot right now.
The only downside that i have found with the CZ's is that you have VERY little slide to get a grip on when doing tac reloads or clearing malfunctions... thats the only reason that I don't like them. I know it sounds dumb but its something to think about.... Hard to get a grip on it if your hands are sweaty or god forbid bloody...
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:55 PM   #1381
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The only downside that i have found with the CZ's is that you have VERY little slide to get a grip on when doing tac reloads or clearing malfunctions... thats the only reason that I don't like them. I know it sounds dumb but its something to think about.... Hard to get a grip on it if your hands are sweaty or god forbid bloody...
Thats a good point, something I did not think about. Although I didnt have a problem with myself just messing around with it in the shop, I'm sure the more you shoot it, the more a problem like that will come up.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:00 PM   #1382
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If you like the cz, you might want to look into the hk p30. It's pricey for a hand gun, but I love it.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:35 PM   #1383
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I have no experience with cz, but I am a big fan of glock and kahr arms. I vote get a good edc gun.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:14 PM   #1384
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You need a good carry gun. Check out the Smith and Wesson M&P line if you havent already. They have a new model out called the M&P Shield thats a single stack and would be very easy to carry.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...1_757781_image

After carrying for about 10 years now I have found that a smaller more comfortable gun will more likely be carried than a big heavy gun that you grew sick of carrying.

My list of great carry guns are:

Baby Glocks
Compact M&Ps
Shield
Snubby Revolvers from S&W or Ruger

I would personally grab a 9mm if I were you due to the lower cost of ammo and less recoil. Buy some good ammo like 147 grn Federal HST, 147 grn Gold Dot or 124 grn +P Gold Dot.

The most prolific gun used by police in America is the Glock, whith the M&P gaining quickly. There is a reason for this. They are tough and reliable which is what you want in a carry gun. How good it looks or how cool it is doesnt matter in a gun fight.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:16 PM   #1385
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As for when you buy a new AK. I highly suggest Arsenal.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:16 PM   #1386
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:17 PM   #1387
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:34 PM   #1388
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meh - just get AZEX to buld you one for cheaper and betterer
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:54 PM   #1389
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:39 PM   #1390
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:42 PM   #1391
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another popular builder is azarmory.net. The guy is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE AT CALL BACK. you'll need to push him every step of the way. that being said he builds awesome AK's.. but witht he price of parts kits right now its cheaper to by the Arsenal and i haven't been able to tell a difference.

He does awesome duracoat jobs though. still take the arssenal just based on stress lol.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:49 PM   #1392
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:50 PM   #1393
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first time i have ever heard anyone say something negative about AZEX


once your arsenal BBQ paint strips off - get AZEX to parkote it

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Old 05-15-2012, 09:34 PM   #1394
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first time i have ever heard anyone say something negative about AZEX


once your arsenal BBQ paint strips off - get AZEX to parkote it

Or... You could just buy a Waffen, built from a commie, numbers matching parts kit, already coated in GunKote, and save money over the ridiculously high priced Arsenal.

BTW, I went with the CZ. I'll give a range report as soon as I can.
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:01 PM   #1395
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Standard Arsenals start at 700 bucks. I dont see how that "rediculously overpriced" when Romanian CAI abortions are going for over 500 dollars.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:31 AM   #1396
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Standard Arsenals start at 700 bucks. I dont see how that "rediculously overpriced" when Romanian CAI abortions are going for over 500 dollars.
I actually picked up a cai Polish underfolder the thing is stupid nice... tight fitting tapco upgraded trigger... but as any of us with experience with cai know, sometimes you just get lucky i have somehow always managed to pick up winners from them guess i am lucky
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I actually picked up a cai Polish underfolder the thing is stupid nice... tight fitting tapco upgraded trigger... but as any of us with experience with cai know, sometimes you just get lucky i have somehow always managed to pick up winners from them guess i am lucky
Yep. I have nothing against the Romanian rifles. Its the jokers over at CAI that put them together that I have a problem with. When I just turned 18 I bought a WASR and it had a mag well that was all messed up. Luckily Ghost's father is a machinist and fixed it up for me.
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meh - mine was built by a commie and imported by CAI, AZEX gave it a once over, engraved it and parkoted
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Yep. I have nothing against the Romanian rifles. Its the jokers over at CAI that put them together that I have a problem with. When I just turned 18 I bought a WASR and it had a mag well that was all messed up. Luckily Ghost's father is a machinist and fixed it up for me.
yeah my polish one had the original commblock mag well not the crap cut out that the romanian ones have... best guess i can come up with is that, that is why it has a tapco trigger group.
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yeah my polish one had the original commblock mag well not the crap cut out that the romanian ones have... best guess i can come up with is that, that is why it has a tapco trigger group.
I believe the Polish ones come in as a parts kit with the recievers cut. I have heard that they use new Nodak recievers on those which are really good recievers.
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