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Old 05-10-2012, 06:54 PM   #1
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Subaru Stars rotella t6 on 2012 wrx?

Hello everyone im kinda a noob with the whole oil thing for this will be the first oil change in my car. im located in chicago .
I have a 2012 wrx with approx 2500 miles.
im planning to run rotella t6 with the subaru oil filter since i have heard of all the positive feedback
1) should i run the t6?
2) in the manual it states that i need 4.4 us qts of 5w-30 but i have heard with the t6 i will need 5 us qts is that true or should i stick with 4.4?
3) should i switch oils for winter or summer cause in chicago the weather gets crazy here.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:59 PM   #2
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You should have asked your dealership to throw in the free 24mo/24K mile service for free. Then you wouldn't have to think about it

RT6 is fine. Pour in 5 and go.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:47 AM   #3
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anyone ??
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:52 AM   #4
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T6 for the win. Stick with 4.5 or prepare for lots of blow by when running the car hard.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:38 AM   #5
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what do you mean lots of blow?
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:20 AM   #6
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lots of oil making it past the rings and into the cylinders (blow by). i throw all 5 in and never seem to have this issue though.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:04 PM   #7
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^^^ +1 for 5 qts RT6. I get great UOAs and no blowby, but I don't run my car very hard.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:53 PM   #8
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dlysiak2,

Pour in 4.5 quarts let it sit for a bit and then check it to see where the level is at. Also, when you go put the filter on, fill the oil filter with oil until just below screw part of the filter then screw the filter slowly on so you don't dump oil all over... Make sure the filter is snug, but not really tight or next oil change could be a challenge....
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I read somewhere, and I'm not 100% positive if it is true, but the T6 is not rated for use in subie motors. Someone had a warranty claim partially denied due to their admission of using T6. I believe they said the SM rating was incorrect. Anyone here have any knowledge if it is or is not acceptable for use in Subaru motors, purely from a legal/warranty standpoint?

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T6 for the win. Stick with 4.5 or prepare for lots of blow by when running the car hard.
If you run it hard you should have a little extra to combat sloshing of the oil. Very common for folks who track their cars to do this.

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I read somewhere, and I'm not 100% positive if it is true, but the T6 is not rated for use in subie motors. Someone had a warranty claim partially denied due to their admission of using T6. I believe they said the SM rating was incorrect. Anyone here have any knowledge if it is or is not acceptable for use in Subaru motors, purely from a legal/warranty standpoint?

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It is definitely API SM rated and there are tons of good uoa's on it here. Maybe you're thinking of the thread that was in the warranty forum where a 2012 or 2011 WRX owner had a boneheaded dealer service manager advise him that the 5W-40 caused a misfire since the owner's manuals now only lists 5W-30 (without any changes to the engine). The dealer drained the Rotella, charged the guy $100 for an oil change, and he still got a misfire CEL.

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It is definitely API SM rated and there are tons of good uoa's on it here. Maybe you're thinking of the thread that was in the warranty forum where a 2012 or 2011 WRX owner had a boneheaded dealer service manager advise him that the 5W-40 caused a misfire since the owner's manuals now only lists 5W-30 (without any changes to the engine). The dealer drained the Rotella, charged the guy $100 for an oil change, and he still got a misfire CEL.

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Nah, it was the blown motor warranty thread where he had an AP stage 1 and showed his receipts for the oil changes using the T6. The dealer said the warranty was denied for the AP and the oil not having the proper legal rating for the subarus. Of course the AP was the real deal breaker, but the poster said the dealer told him the oil alone would have denied the claim. We stopped offering the Amsoil European Synthetic due to the API rating not being stated and switched to the Signature Series for this reason.

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Old 05-13-2012, 11:44 AM   #13
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Answered my own question....

http://www-static.shell.com/static/c...rotella_t6.pdf

It shows the SM on there.

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just changed my oil at 2k miles with rotella and a wix filter. the oem oil looked like water, feel a lot better after putting the t6 in...
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just changed my oil at 2k miles with rotella and a wix filter. the oem oil looked like water, feel a lot better after putting the t6 in...
ive used the rotella t6 for some time now. my 08 is at 44k now and still consumes no oil between oil changes. great oil. i just wish it came in 5 quart containers like every other oil in the usa! lol
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For performance applications, I usually run my Subarus up on the "notch" above the "Full" hole on the dipstick, for a bit of added security.
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just changed my oil at 2k miles with rotella and a wix filter. the oem oil looked like water, feel a lot better after putting the t6 in...
Stick with the oem filter as it is the only filter with the correct bypass psi (23 psi). the wix , although a good filter, has too low of a psi. Rotella T6 FTW - it's a very stout oil.
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For performance applications, I usually run my Subarus up on the "notch" above the "Full" hole on the dipstick, for a bit of added security.
Id be careful of too much oil pressure running it at the next notch (when cold). it should only be at that point when warm.
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Id be careful of too much oil pressure running it at the next notch (when cold). it should only be at that point when warm.

id be more careful of not knowing what I was talking about
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I use t6 in both of my subarus. it's good stuff
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There should be zero oil pressure effect from running at the notch, no matter the temperature.

There are lots of expensive effects from oil starvation, however.
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lots of people have good luck with the t6, but since it doesn't meet subarus requirements for oil the dealer could deny a warranty claim should you have a problem in the future. Personaly I would use a 5w30 untill im out of warranty coverage, then after that use whatever you feel like.
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lots of people have good luck with the t6, but since it doesn't meet subarus requirements for oil the dealer could deny a warranty claim should you have a problem in the future. Personaly I would use a 5w30 untill im out of warranty coverage, then after that use whatever you feel like.



jesus.....how DO these stupid people get old enough to drive cars......
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jesus.....how DO these stupid people get old enough to drive cars......
Instead of being a dick, why don't you educate him?
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lots of people have good luck with the t6, but since it doesn't meet subarus requirements for oil the dealer could deny a warranty claim should you have a problem in the future. Personaly I would use a 5w30 untill im out of warranty coverage, then after that use whatever you feel like.
You can run 5w40 oil as per the manual. It is an acceptable alternate oil weight. In the past, the T6 did not list the SM API rating which they can deny a claim on. However now, it does list the API SM so it is acceptable.

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