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Old 05-13-2012, 04:57 PM   #1
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Default Clutch/Transmission problem in 93 Impreza.

I'll try and keep this concise. I have a 93 Impreza with a MT

The other day I had been driving around no issues for about 20 miles. I was getting onto the freeway, tried to downshift into second from third as I was turning onto the on ramp and I could not get it to go into gear. I tried putting it back in third, would not go in. So I pulled onto the shoulder. With the car not moving but running, I tried putting it into first and it would not go into gear. It would not go into any gear at all while the engine was running.

I turned the car off, and with my foot on the clutch put it into first gear no problem whatsoever. It went into every gear just fine with the car off and my foot on the clutch. I took my foot off the clutch and it still went into every gear just fine.

So I put it neutral and turned the car back on. But like before when the motor was running, it would not go into any gear. So I turned the car off, put it into first gear (no problem with motor off) and tried starting the car. The car lurched forward a bit and was having trouble turning over. It lurched a couple times and finally turned over, however it was making a grinding noise (rpm's idled fine) in the engine, so I turned the car off and called a tow truck.

Two days later I turned it on for the hell of it. Put it into first gear and voila it went in and I didn't seem to hear anything out of the ordinary. I was able to shift from first to second no problem with the car on (but stationary). However, I let off the clutch a tad in first (to get it to roll forward) and was met with another bad grinding sound and quickly turned it off. Now when I turn it on at all, there is a grinding sound coming from the engine, no matter if its in gear or not.

Any ideas on this? I need to get it to a shop I know, and I will, but I can't until later this week or maybe even later. So I thought I'd throw this question up here to see what people thought so I could maybe get a better idea on what I'm facing before I take it in.

Thanks for any and all help.

On a lighter note, I can't believe how hard it is to tow a car anywhere in Washington state. Uhaul won't let me rent a dolly to tow a car because the truck doesn't meet their requirements. The truck is a Tahoe 5.3L V8. What am I missing there?
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:15 AM   #2
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Two days later I turned it on for the hell of it. Put it into first gear and voila it went in and I didn't seem to hear anything out of the ordinary. I was able to shift from first to second no problem with the car on (but stationary). However, I let off the clutch a tad in first (to get it to roll forward) and was met with another bad grinding sound and quickly turned it off. Now when I turn it on at all, there is a grinding sound coming from the engine, no matter if its in gear or not.
When you said that you were able to shift it into first to second with the car on and you are STATIONARY?! with the car on?! Please clarify what you said. I would say it sounds like a synchro problem in the tranny. You say that there is a grinding sound coming from the "engine"? I don't recommend starting it, but when you have, did you notice the sound would go away with the clutch pedal pushed in? Heavy clutch/strange feeling clutch? Based off of most of what you have said, I do not think that there is an engine problem here, but possibly a transmission problem or clutch assembly problem. I know that pulling the tranny on the car will be quite a bit, but that's something i'm positive will have to be done at least with the labor costs and what not. I hope it all works out my friend.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:17 PM   #3
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It doesn't sound like something simply let go in the transmission. I'm betting on clutch issues, since the problem presented itself all at once and affects all gears. OP, you can remove the boot around the clutch fork and inspect inside the bellhousing, that may give you insight to the problem if it lies there.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:01 PM   #4
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When you said that you were able to shift it into first to second with the car on and you are STATIONARY?! with the car on?!
Yes, the car running, but not moving. I started it up with my foot on the clutch and just put it into first gear, and it went in fine. Then, while just sitting there put it into second just fine.

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I don't recommend starting it, but when you have, did you notice the sound would go away with the clutch pedal pushed in? Heavy clutch/strange feeling clutch?
I haven't started it since it started making that noise even in neutral. But no, the noise did not go away with the clutch pushed in, and the clutch feels 100% normal.

I was hoping it was a clutch issue because less $ to fix. However talking to a mechanic I've been to he thinks the tranny ***** out on me since the clutch seems to feel fine and not out of the ordinary at all. I still haven't been able to get it to a shop because with carpooling with my girlfriend I really haven't had time. This sucks because if it's a tranny, i'm looking at quite a big bill on a car with almost 300k miles.
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