MSI Project Car - Gravel conversion begins! - Page 18

DutchOven · 05-04-2012, 02:43 PM

Is it common to not use lexan for the rear windshield, or are you guys just not considering it for this build at this point?

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MSI · 05-05-2012, 03:13 AM

You can use it for sure to save weight. performance plastics has some nice kits.
It is easy to replace afterwards though, so we kept a few $$ here as the originals we had at the shop were in good shape, and as it is the RA units for groupN cars are 1mm thinner (hence lighter) than the USDM items.

MSI · 05-19-2012, 06:46 AM

Radiator piping all installed and hooked up, SPAL fans hooked up (at 1350 CFM each !!!)
Rear doors all installed and fixed into place.

Onto turbo installation and manifold setup with the 321ss. Easy to make a CFD approved design, but another to make it happen now .... This is one of those examples that an engineer says "do this" and the reality is "ah ****ttt" ....

sti4rs · 05-20-2012, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSI

Radiator piping all installed and hooked up, SPAL fans hooked up (at 1350 CFM each !!!)
Rear doors all installed and fixed into place.

Onto turbo installation and manifold setup with the 321ss. Easy to make a CFD approved design, but another to make it happen now .... This is one of those examples that an engineer says "do this" and the reality is "ah ****ttt" ....

Pictures?

MSI · 05-21-2012, 01:26 PM

coming, coming. Need to upload them!

MSI · 05-22-2012, 11:35 AM

Finally getting pictures posted of some progress. Started to layout items for the wiring loom installation and came across this, anyone spot what is wrong??

Preparing the main bus bars as well as the DCCD controller unit to be mounted to the floorpanels as low as possible.

We then made a mock-up table to put all the items in there proper location.
This helps when you need to order wire / supplies as well. Lets you calculate easier what is needed, and what goes were.

Lightweight Fireproof sheathing helps slow the spread of fire and keeps everything neat and tidy. Not expensive, easy to work with, and does a really nice job. Better than std electrical tape, that's for sure!

Lots more to go ....

A good trick when using any signal sensors (cam, crank, wheel speed, etc) twist the wires together. This helps minimize field distortions. This is IN ADDITION to using the proper magnetically shielded wire as well.

All the chassis loom comes in under 10 lbs now. This is a saving of over 60lbs.

After laying out a template on cardboard, we drilled out the locations for the fuses and LED lights. This is a clean way to make a nice loom without spending 6$k on a PDM. The PDM makes it much cleaner, lighter, and easier to configure the loom though. Especially when coupled with and OBR membrane switch panel...

Finally, rear trunk latches installed as well. The carbon trim is bonded to the trunk lid, and the latches are riveted through both. This helps reduce the chance of things cracking with the vibrations.

biknman · 05-22-2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSI

Finally getting pictures posted of some progress. Started to layout items for the wiring loom installation and came across this, anyone spot what is wrong??

Hum.....It's due for service the same day it was manufactured/serviced

MSI · 05-22-2012, 03:27 PM

Yeah, luckily that was caught before the car goes out !

boost junkie · 05-23-2012, 10:17 AM

Nice work. No need to spend $6k on a PDM though, the MoTeC PDM15 can be had for about 1/3 of that

MSI · 05-23-2012, 01:04 PM

I was actually referring to the OBR unit with the membrane dash.
The PDM15 I don't think has enough channels for a touring car with flashers, horns, wipers, etc, etc, etc

wtyree · 05-24-2012, 02:21 PM

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boost junkie · 05-24-2012, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSI

I was actually referring to the OBR unit with the membrane dash.
The PDM15 I don't think has enough channels for a touring car with flashers, horns, wipers, etc, etc, etc

That's true unless you double things up on one output. We ended up needing to upgrade to a PDM30 (still about 1/2 the cost of the OBR).

MSI · 05-24-2012, 05:04 PM

hehehe, you baller you

Might as well get the membrane switch panel as well Dan ... I mean you are already there more or less.

MSI · 05-24-2012, 05:05 PM

Forgot to add, we finished the turbo inlet pipe today with "X" design that was worked out by an engineering friend of mine. So turbo and exhaust are almost wrapped up as well.
I am getting REALLY close to starting the car, how far are you still?
hehehehe

bugeyesubie · 05-24-2012, 08:32 PM

i love this build, so many inspirational ideas.
2 questions:
where did you get all your goodridge lines and fittings supplied from I'm in canada (calgary) to but can't find any online suppliers close to here?
more info on the harness. fireproof sheathing and maybe a diy on redoing/ pinning the connectors?
looking forward to see Leo in action tomorrow at RMR

kozak · 05-25-2012, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugeyesubie

i love this build, so many inspirational ideas.
2 questions:
where did you get all your goodridge lines and fittings supplied from I'm in canada (calgary) to but can't find any online suppliers close to here?
more info on the harness. fireproof sheathing and maybe a diy on redoing/ pinning the connectors?
looking forward to see Leo in action tomorrow at RMR

I second this! Been looking for Goodridge stuff as well, and the only results are a few brake line kits

I'm in Toronto.

Layvon · 05-25-2012, 08:27 AM

Anplumbing.com!

MSI · 05-25-2012, 09:49 AM

We stock a lot of the higher end goodridge items here. Well, we stock what we use anyhow.
Send me an e-mail with what you are looking for. We can do the crimp fittings as well if you need. I don't have a tester rig though, and brake lines I will only sell the bulk bits with re-usable ends, or the G-Stop kits that are crimped from Goodridge directly.

The only ends I will crimp will be fuel / oil lines in the 600, 811, or 911 series hoses. Steel or Aluminum (in the 600 series) aluminum in the 811 or 911 series.

-mark

boost junkie · 05-25-2012, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSI

hehehe, you baller you

Might as well get the membrane switch panel as well Dan ... I mean you are already there more or less.

Using the new MoTeC keypad

It's actually very reasonably priced, probably not much more than a bunch of mil spec switches and all the extra wiring.

MSI · 05-25-2012, 01:48 PM

Probably... but I had the items in stock and it is done. Next car ... maybe the BRZ that arrives in 2 weeks will see something more trick ...

mateospeed · 05-29-2012, 07:44 AM

BRZ?! Ooo, more info please! Will you be starting another build thread to show us your plans and progress on that one?

MSI · 05-30-2012, 02:10 PM

Need to sell this car first!

Thomas Ruble · 05-30-2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSI

Need to sell this car first!

Someones going to get a fantastic car. Great job.

MSI · 05-31-2012, 05:07 PM

Not the greatest picture, but it is a picture.
We finished the NEW MSI fuel rails for testing, one set going on our race car, the other going out to Fine Line Imports.

bue car · 05-31-2012, 05:47 PM

05-22-2012, 11:35 AM	#431
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Wiring Harness Finally getting pictures posted of some progress. Started to layout items for the wiring loom installation and came across this, anyone spot what is wrong?? Preparing the main bus bars as well as the DCCD controller unit to be mounted to the floorpanels as low as possible. We then made a mock-up table to put all the items in there proper location. This helps when you need to order wire / supplies as well. Lets you calculate easier what is needed, and what goes were. Lightweight Fireproof sheathing helps slow the spread of fire and keeps everything neat and tidy. Not expensive, easy to work with, and does a really nice job. Better than std electrical tape, that's for sure! Lots more to go .... A good trick when using any signal sensors (cam, crank, wheel speed, etc) twist the wires together. This helps minimize field distortions. This is IN ADDITION to using the proper magnetically shielded wire as well. All the chassis loom comes in under 10 lbs now. This is a saving of over 60lbs. After laying out a template on cardboard, we drilled out the locations for the fuses and LED lights. This is a clean way to make a nice loom without spending 6$k on a PDM. The PDM makes it much cleaner, lighter, and easier to configure the loom though. Especially when coupled with and OBR membrane switch panel... Finally, rear trunk latches installed as well. The carbon trim is bonded to the trunk lid, and the latches are riveted through both. This helps reduce the chance of things cracking with the vibrations.

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05-04-2012, 02:43 PM	#426
DutchOven Scooby Specialist Member#: 220629 Join Date: Aug 2009 Chapter/Region: SCIC Vehicle: 2010 WRX Hatchback Satin White Pearl	Is it common to not use lexan for the rear windshield, or are you guys just not considering it for this build at this point? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

05-05-2012, 03:13 AM	#427
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	You can use it for sure to save weight. performance plastics has some nice kits. It is easy to replace afterwards though, so we kept a few $$ here as the originals we had at the shop were in good shape, and as it is the RA units for groupN cars are 1mm thinner (hence lighter) than the USDM items.

05-19-2012, 06:46 AM	#428
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Radiator piping all installed and hooked up, SPAL fans hooked up (at 1350 CFM each !!!) Rear doors all installed and fixed into place. Onto turbo installation and manifold setup with the 321ss. Easy to make a CFD approved design, but another to make it happen now .... This is one of those examples that an engineer says "do this" and the reality is "ah ****ttt" ....

05-21-2012, 01:26 PM	#430
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	coming, coming. Need to upload them!

05-22-2012, 03:27 PM	#433
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Yeah, luckily that was caught before the car goes out !

05-23-2012, 10:17 AM	#434
boost junkie Top Scoob 009 Member#: 68273 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2012 WRX GD Race Car in progress	Nice work. No need to spend $6k on a PDM though, the MoTeC PDM15 can be had for about 1/3 of that

05-23-2012, 01:04 PM	#435
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	I was actually referring to the OBR unit with the membrane dash. The PDM15 I don't think has enough channels for a touring car with flashers, horns, wipers, etc, etc, etc

05-24-2012, 02:21 PM	#436
wtyree Scooby Newbie Member#: 29879 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Friendswood, TX Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon Silver	subscribed

05-24-2012, 05:04 PM	#438
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	hehehe, you baller you Might as well get the membrane switch panel as well Dan ... I mean you are already there more or less.

05-24-2012, 05:05 PM	#439
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Forgot to add, we finished the turbo inlet pipe today with "X" design that was worked out by an engineering friend of mine. So turbo and exhaust are almost wrapped up as well. I am getting REALLY close to starting the car, how far are you still? hehehehe

05-24-2012, 08:32 PM	#440
bugeyesubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 179783 Join Date: May 2008 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Calgary Vehicle: 2002 WRX Silver STi swap 380wph!!	i love this build, so many inspirational ideas. 2 questions: where did you get all your goodridge lines and fittings supplied from I'm in canada (calgary) to but can't find any online suppliers close to here? more info on the harness. fireproof sheathing and maybe a diy on redoing/ pinning the connectors? looking forward to see Leo in action tomorrow at RMR

05-25-2012, 08:27 AM	#442
Layvon NASIOC Supporter Member#: 195711 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Cadillac MI Vehicle: STi 04/05/06/07 JBP / OBP for now	Anplumbing.com!

05-25-2012, 09:49 AM	#443
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	We stock a lot of the higher end goodridge items here. Well, we stock what we use anyhow. Send me an e-mail with what you are looking for. We can do the crimp fittings as well if you need. I don't have a tester rig though, and brake lines I will only sell the bulk bits with re-usable ends, or the G-Stop kits that are crimped from Goodridge directly. The only ends I will crimp will be fuel / oil lines in the 600, 811, or 911 series hoses. Steel or Aluminum (in the 600 series) aluminum in the 811 or 911 series. -mark

05-25-2012, 01:48 PM	#445
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Probably... but I had the items in stock and it is done. Next car ... maybe the BRZ that arrives in 2 weeks will see something more trick ...

05-29-2012, 07:44 AM	#446
mateospeed Scooby Newbie Member#: 116317 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: VIR, CMP, RRR Vehicle: 2002 WRX...sold:-(	BRZ?! Ooo, more info please! Will you be starting another build thread to show us your plans and progress on that one?

05-30-2012, 02:10 PM	#447
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Need to sell this car first!

05-31-2012, 05:07 PM	#449
MSI NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 95419 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: montreal	Not the greatest picture, but it is a picture. We finished the NEW MSI fuel rails for testing, one set going on our race car, the other going out to Fine Line Imports.

05-31-2012, 05:47 PM	#450
bue car Scooby Guru Member#: 176134 Join Date: Mar 2008 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Torrance, CA Vehicle: 07' Impreza STi wrb 95 L...