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Old 05-10-2012, 07:01 AM   #1
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Default 2.0 WRX 140K TD04 IWG E85 DD tune 265/300

Tuned up a decent DD to tide me over, feels plenty zippy for what it has cost me (very little), runs smooth with great response and pulls well even up top.
Vehicle is virtually silent and really can sneak up on ya.
Paid 30 bux for the turbo so win for that.

Hits 20 psi @3100ish full boost around 3300

Timing is 19* -- 28* boost is 21.75-14 psi AFR is 11:8.1 enriching to 11:4.1

Event: Road pull
Location: Austin Texas road pull
Ambient Temp: 60s
Elevation: Sea level
Weather: Dark
Track and Conditions: Dry,flat road.
Tires: Potenza 205/55/16 on stock rims

Car: 2003 WRX Wagon 75K miles on stock motor and tranny
Tuner: Myself
Dyno Info: Road dyno using Ecuedit and Airboy
Transmission: 5 speed stocker
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 265@5300
Peak Torque at RPM: 300@4216
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 200/200 ish
Target Boost: 21.75psi taper to 14
Target AFR: 11:8.1 -- 11:4.1
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications: TD04 IWG IDC1000s, Catted TBE, MBC TMIC
Driveline Modifications: None
Suspension Modifications: TEIN coil overs, sways, lock down etc.
Weight: 3500 - full tank gas, driver and passenger


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Old 05-10-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
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Looking good Keith! can't wait to put on the ewg, its just teasing me sitting in my closet!
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:26 AM   #3
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It always interests me how close G/sec can be to WHP.


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Old 05-10-2012, 01:50 PM   #4
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nic ework keith. You sure go through a lot of setups. it's all learning I guess.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:59 PM   #5
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Justin - EWG will rock on your vehicle ;-)
G/s is a good rough estimate but on my larger turbo setups its not linear up top due to my MAF scaling.
Jason - different set up every month for the last year! Its a hobby and its all learning for sure, I enjoy it
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:03 PM   #6
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IS it a stock td04-13t or is it a 19t?
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:10 AM   #7
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IS it a stock td04-13t or is it a 19t?
^ This. Peak torque looks late for a stocker.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:02 AM   #8
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Stock TD04 - it has 140K miles on it and cost me 30 dollars, I sold my VF39 EWG setup and needed something to fill the gap

Well spotted With regard to the TQ, my timing prior to 4K is 16.5* my peak timing is 19*( around 4K) due to the TD spool characteristic my vehicle prefers it with this timing map. It hits just fine for what it is.

If I increase the timing before 4K by 2-2.5* I can bring my peak TRQ to the 3700 rpm range, I pick up a little noise and a small amount (-1.4) of FLKC from time to time, no big deal but I like it to run uber clean ;-)

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Old 05-18-2012, 10:55 PM   #9
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Remapped it and went again.. 277 from an old TD04, Ill take it! full boost 3100 ;-) nice DD

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Old 05-19-2012, 12:12 AM   #10
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Ye thats a tdo4 u sure what dyno vitural/mustang/ dyna pack ?? U really hold tq that long? Looks a little suspect
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:15 AM   #11
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O i saw its airboy sry im stoned, td04s are not my fav turbo i had one tuned , i find it hard to believe, 265 to the wheels ?
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:17 AM   #12
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Just saw ur baseline 200 just makes me laugh on a stock 2.0 for real ha no way
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:21 AM   #13
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sigh.....another NASIOC classic member
Your comments show a total lack of knowledge and experience in the Subaru world, you are coming off like a right tool. Its good for members amusement, but bad for NASIOC.

Please Sir, stay out of my thread and future threads, thx

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Old 05-19-2012, 05:57 AM   #14
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Dude u kno ur car doesnt have 265 to the wheels right its a tdo4 not a vf39/43/48 get outta here with those numbers
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:59 AM   #15
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Td04 put down 165-170 on mustang dynos stock ur puttin down 200 stock what does that tell u a little inflated numbers to me
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:46 AM   #16
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Post #13
Thankyou Sir
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #17
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Td04 put down 165-170 on mustang dynos stock ur puttin down 200 stock what does that tell u a little inflated numbers to me
OK.. and stock 2.0 td04's don't run 20+ psi, 28* timing, and 11.8 afr's either.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:41 PM   #18
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Dude u kno ur car doesnt have 265 to the wheels right its a tdo4 not a vf39/43/48 get outta here with those numbers
Yeah... its on E not pump, it's not suspect at all.
I had a tdo4 on meth that made 265whp on an actual mustang dyno, and that was 93+meth.... Not E85 which is a lot better.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:53 PM   #19
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I Just really doubt my friends have 2.0 with vf39 that dont make that kinda power and ur tdo4 cant hold that much power to redline , i really dont believe it id liketo see that car on a real dyno , wrx make 165 whp on a real dyno not 200 thats retarded take a look at alot of stock dyno sheets ur car doesnt make 265 whp
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:23 PM   #20
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Again post #13
Please adhere to my wishes as the OP - your ignorance is making you look very silly, please stop.
Thankyou Sir

NB - I have NEVER dyno'd my vehicle stock, dont get hung up on the baseline guesstimate, (hence 200ish) I post assuming some intelligence.

Mods, please stop this littering of mine and others threads.

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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2337125

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Old 05-19-2012, 05:58 PM   #21
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I Just really doubt my friends have 2.0 with vf39 that dont make that kinda power and ur tdo4 cant hold that much power to redline , i really dont believe it id liketo see that car on a real dyno , wrx make 165 whp on a real dyno not 200 thats retarded take a look at alot of stock dyno sheets ur car doesnt make 265 whp
Wow, you exist? I didn't know we had posters that still don't understand what Ethanol is!
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:18 AM   #22
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I Just really doubt my friends have 2.0 with vf39 that dont make that kinda power and ur tdo4 cant hold that much power to redline , i really dont believe it id liketo see that car on a real dyno , wrx make 165 whp on a real dyno not 200 thats retarded take a look at alot of stock dyno sheets ur car doesnt make 265 whp

Implying all wrxs make 165 wheels is absurd though.. Thats implying theres no factory freaks and thats just untrue there are cars that dyno well above the normal ratings.

Ms gsr dynoed around 15-20hp wheel more than others stock my compression stock was 230psi per cylinder higher than type rs they were doing comp tests on and it was a stock gsr motor. Ran a 15.0 bone stuck full interior with like a 2.1 60 foot.


Just stating yea most dyno around similar numbers but your gonna get cars that are higher.

And yes its possible the dyno is a high reader. The test will be MPH at the track.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:52 AM   #23
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I Just really doubt my friends have 2.0 with vf39 that dont make that kinda power and ur tdo4 cant hold that much power to redline , i really dont believe it id liketo see that car on a real dyno , wrx make 165 whp on a real dyno not 200 thats retarded take a look at alot of stock dyno sheets ur car doesnt make 265 whp
Dude shut up! Stop hating on the guys car just cause your didn't do it! To many variation les to account for when comparing #'s(temp,humdity, condition of car, road used, etc)

If you look at his dyno sheets the car has lots of power early and in the midrange then it falls off just like all other td04's...
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:50 PM   #24
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Thx for the back up guys, the educated member knows it is what it is, I like to keep the thread about the car/setup so lets ignore the stupid posts.

The reason I post soo many different tunes/hardware configs is to show what changes those setups make on MY vehicle, for a ref should others want to play or change things up.

Its an open forum and everyone has an opinion, for me the numbers are just good to compare, not just peak but under the curve. Its the best tool I can use to refine my setup and tuning abilities.
If you check my previous posts you will see many setup on this vehicle and my previous STis, hell go over to the370z dot com and you see one of the first tunes on that platform making power to 8100 rpm with home made parts ;-)

Just for the sake of my own numbers and this thread, this vehicle made the following.

16G meth + pump 93 275/280
16G E85 315/315
TD04 EWG E85 275/305
VF39 EWG E85 320/340
TD04 IWG E85 265/300
16G pump 93 265/265

All tunes aggressive as Id like to run for a DD, I just tune that way ;-)
Now whats so un normal about that?

Still waiting for funds to throw a BLOUCH on there......
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:15 PM   #25
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Dude i have a 06 wrx tr all hooked up seats, vf48, walboro, sways, strut braces, lowering springs, cobb cat back, cobb catless dp, cabb sf intake, cleared headlights, cobb access port, sti top mount, tuned by efi , im just saying i hate how everyone post bull**** numbers that r inflated and not corrected. His car does not have 265 whp it pisses me off ive done extensive work on my own car have had tuned on a mustang low reading dyno and its annoying when multiple people post numbers that are largely inflated y post them a 2.0 with a tdo4 is not hitting 265 on that dyno it does run e75 which i didnt see at first so it will b stronger but still i have a friend with a rs swapped wrx which is only making 255/260 and ur gunna tell me this tdo4 is making 265/300 u gotta b joking a 2.0 making that much tq it bs thats all im saying post some real number
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