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Old 04-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #51
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You are gonna cream your jeans dude. Cereal. That thing is bad ass and if you have arts and crafts skills with the wrap it looks terrific. I'm really loving the sound of the EL header too as its very Porsche like and grows on you.
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:43 PM   #52
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So no spray like we did with the old wrap? Even to get a few more anal retentive degrees because...you know...racecar.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:09 AM   #53
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So no spray like we did with the old wrap? Even to get a few more anal retentive degrees because...you know...racecar.
that wrap is very easy to do sharp bends with. i used the 1'' and mine came out very nice and tight wrapped. it takes some time and patience though. the ends will fray like hell if you arent careful like unabomber said.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:03 PM   #54
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nice lookin stuff right there
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #55
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Sweet! Just ordered the wrap you used as well as the Tomei ELH. Thanks for the lesson. I'll be taking my time with it for sure.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:04 PM   #56
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Sweet! Just ordered the wrap you used as well as the Tomei ELH. Thanks for the lesson. I'll be taking my time with it for sure.
you will love that setup! im soo happy with the el header sound. no more drone killing my ears. take your time with the wrap. it will look awesome when you are done. also, those metal ties are useless. i went on ebay and bought a box of stainless gear hose clamps. they hold nice and secure. the wraps dont stay tight and slide around during install.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:25 PM   #57
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you will love that setup! im soo happy with the el header sound. no more drone killing my ears. take your time with the wrap. it will look awesome when you are done. also, those metal ties are useless. i went on ebay and bought a box of stainless gear hose clamps. they hold nice and secure. the wraps dont stay tight and slide around during install.
Ya I have some extra clamps around somewhere. I'm pretty excited to get it all set up. Did you have enough room to wrap each runner individually or did you have to pair them up?
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:05 AM   #58
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Ya I have some extra clamps around somewhere. I'm pretty excited to get it all set up. Did you have enough room to wrap each runner individually or did you have to pair them up?
i wrapped each one individually. it takes a little patience. keep it tight with plastic zipties as you work done each tube. then remove them when finished. the stock uppipe is a pita to remove. i had to lift the pass side of my engine about an inch to get room to pull it out from the bottom.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #59
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This was the warp-type used for my UP/DP and EWG pipe that runs back into the DP.

So, headers are on their way and the wrap has already arrived.

Question is this: With headers like Perrin, with the runners fairly close together, is it best to wrap 2 into 1 or work it like a champ and wrap the runners as individually as possible? Which would net the best heat retention property?

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Old 04-26-2012, 11:57 PM   #60
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It is better to wrap each runner individually. No space between runners = less heat lost. I have tired it both ways and got better results with the individually wrapped runners. I have (most of, custom job) Perrin headers.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:35 PM   #61
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Awesome write up UB. Made this look easy. Attempting the DP within the next week. Thanks to this write-up, feeling a bit more confident in knocking it out.
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:59 PM   #62
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It is better to wrap each runner individually. No space between runners = less heat lost. I have tired it both ways and got better results with the individually wrapped runners. I have (most of, custom job) Perrin headers.
Cool. I will suck it up and do my measuring and wrap the runners individually as much as possible.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:08 PM   #63
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Thanks Ron, another good post

I bet you had one hell of a smoke signal going on for the first 100 miles, as I sure did when I did mine.
Works like the post says though!
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Is there a way to wrap something over this so that water, dirt and oil from getting soaked into the wrap.

I was thinking something like the silver stuff on the unabomber's turbo wrap guide. Can I just layer aluminium foil and wrap that with headers, uppipe, and downpipe?

Is it possible to retain the OEM heat shields on the headers?
I have the OEM headers and uppipe.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:58 PM   #65
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any answers to the above post? bump!
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:39 PM   #66
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Thermo-Tec 16850 could be used or for baller status (I was going to use this option then my non-baller wallet said no) http://www.aclperformance.com.au/prod_heatshield.htm is what you could use as its basically thin metal (and was/still is used to wrap APS headers). It's very expensive though, when I checked into it (my memory sucks) it was pricey as crap along with not knowing how much to order to wrap headers.
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:48 PM   #67
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i just picked up some PROSPORT titanium wrap. had no idea they make different types of wrap. its truely amazing from the numerous types i have used DEI and jegs. whats the best part is you can bid on it on ebay for dirt cheap i got and entire 50ft 2in thick titanium roll for 30$ thats amazing!
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Is there a way to wrap something over this so that water, dirt and oil from getting soaked into the wrap.

I was thinking something like the silver stuff on the unabomber's turbo wrap guide. Can I just layer aluminium foil and wrap that with headers, uppipe, and downpipe?

Is it possible to retain the OEM heat shields on the headers?
I have the OEM headers and uppipe.
i wouldnt put anything else around the wrap. i have my engine cover on underneath so it keeps the wrap pretty clean and dry. i dont think the oem heatshields would bolt up at all. i used the dei titanimum like unabomber on my tomei headers and uppipe. real nice stuff.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:21 PM   #69
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i wouldnt put anything else around the wrap. i have my engine cover on underneath so it keeps the wrap pretty clean and dry. i dont think the oem heatshields would bolt up at all. i used the dei titanimum like unabomber on my tomei headers and uppipe. real nice stuff.
Eh thats what I was afraid of. I would love for the heat sheilds to somewhat bolt up because my OEM plastic skidplate is dead. I might try this some time if I am ever taking off the up pipe and cross pipes again. I would have done this soon but now my motivation is gone... I'll stick to just the turbo blanket wrap like Ron did.
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Just picked up 2 1"x50' rolls for 60 bucks shipped off of Autoplicity. Thoughts on laying down some thermal paint before wrapping?

My plan was to paint and wrap my uppipe, dump tube, and ported stock headers and use whatever is left on my FMIC plumbing. If I still have a lot left I'll wrap my ceramic coated downpipe.
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Just picked up 2 1"x50' rolls for 60 bucks shipped off of Autoplicity. Thoughts on laying down some thermal paint before wrapping?

My plan was to paint and wrap my uppipe, dump tube, and ported stock headers and use whatever is left on my FMIC plumbing. If I still have a lot left I'll wrap my ceramic coated downpipe.
The wrap is meant to hold heat in (as an insulator), so I wouldn't use it on FMIC plumbing. For that (FMIC plumbing) you want to keep engine heat out, so wrap it in some brand of heat-reflective tape.

Why aren't you wrapping your downpipe?
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The wrap is meant to hold heat in (as an insulator), so I wouldn't use it on FMIC plumbing. For that (FMIC plumbing) you want to keep engine heat out, so wrap it in some brand of heat-reflective tape.

Why aren't you wrapping your downpipe?
My FMIC piping wouldn't be dissipating heat via tubing, it would be soaking. Wrapping my FMIC piping in key areas would insulate from heat soak.

I'm not wrapping my dp because I think the ceramic coating is sufficent.

Am I off my rocker?
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insulation is insulation. Its not like it can tell which way the heat is going. Reference -Physics.

the wrap on the dp can only help right?
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insulation is insulation. Its not like it can tell which way the heat is going. Reference -Physics.

the wrap on the dp can only help right?
My thought process behind wrapping the piping first is that the engine itself gets pretty toasty. I have a turbo blanket and heatshield that I can touch so I don't think that much heat escaping off the turbo. I want to keep the colder side of the I/C as insulated as possible because presumably the charge is cooler than the engine bay temp.
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My thought process behind wrapping the piping first is that the engine itself gets pretty toasty. I have a turbo blanket and heatshield that I can touch so I don't think that much heat escaping off the turbo. I want to keep the colder side of the I/C as insulated as possible because presumably the charge is cooler than the engine bay temp.
Yes, wrap the pipe into throttle first, do you more good than wrapping the exhaust with a FMIC...
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