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Old 05-17-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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Default Suspension/Alignment help!

Hello Nasioc, so recently I paid a local shop "Agoura Auto Spa" to install my used Stance GR coilovers. (for a 2007 WRX)


The installing was successful, but I realized the only thing he adjusted was ride height so I wouldn't rub. Now the car feels very strange/bouncy and probably need's a custom alignment.

***I wanted to see if anyone knows a good shop to check the coilovers out or possibly re adjust them. I'd also be willing to pay someone for their time to come check them or I'd drive to you to get it checked/re adjusted.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks Nasioc.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:31 PM   #2
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Jack the car up and make sure they didn't adjust the ride height by just taking all the preload off the spring. The spring should be able to be turned by hand with a bit of force but should not be any up down play in it with the wheels unloaded. As long as you have spring preload then adjust the dampening by using the little knob on the top of the top hat. Right makes it stiffer left makes it softer. Set them for the middle setting and adjust softer or harder according to what feels good to you. Also if you bought used and they just feel spongy and bouncy their probably blown and in need of a rebuild. This whole adjustment thing isn't hard and you can accomplish yourself with little more then a jack and a 12mm wrench in your driveway. Search YouTube for a basic look at what you need to do. It's really not rocket science.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:20 PM   #3
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An alignment is not going to change the feel of the car in any manner that will decrease "bounciness"

Also, if these are your first coilovers, you may just be noticing what a stiff suspension set up feels like.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:06 PM   #4
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since ride height was adjusted, the it will be best to get it aligned. There's a good shop in Gardena,go check it out.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/west-end-alignment-gardena


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Just saw you're from thousand oaks. West end might be too far.

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Old 05-17-2012, 07:16 PM   #5
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Take it to Daryn at west end alignment they are the best!
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:34 PM   #6
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forsure thanks for the input people, I rather have a shop/person whose dealt with suspension alot more then me do it.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #7
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Alignment should have been done along with the install. If it wasn't you should go get your money back cause all they did was take 8 bolts out and 12 nuts off them put them back on. If they charged you more then 60$ to do install you got screwed.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:58 PM   #8
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all they did was take 8 bolts out and 12 nuts off them put them back on. If they charged you more then 60$ to do install you got screwed.
Plus the use of their warehouse space, vehicle lift, tools, staff, and general overhead.

Don't ever start your own business.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:21 PM   #9
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Im surprised I cant find any local stuff, what about yimi sport?
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West end is worth the drive and time trust me.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:24 PM   #11
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No one knows anything local of thousand oaks/simi valley/camarillo/van nuys/sherman oaks or LA? any more suggestions are appreciated.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:37 PM   #12
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Alignment should have been done along with the install. If it wasn't you should go get your money back cause all they did was take 8 bolts out and 12 nuts off them put them back on. If they charged you more then 60$ to do install you got screwed.

Name of the place that will install coilover suspension and do an alignment for coilovers that is less than $60
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:58 PM   #13
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Or you could learn to read an see that I said if they DIDN'T do alignment along with the install op got screwed. If they only installed an he paid more then 60$ he got the bone. ESP cause he doesn't even know if they did the height adjustment properly by taking all preload off the springs instead of using the threaded lower receiver to properly lower ride height. What the hell is going on in California? Is English actually a second language these days?!
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Or you could learn to read an see that I said if they DIDN'T do alignment along with the install op got screwed. If they only installed an he paid more then 60$ he got the bone. ESP cause he doesn't even know if they did the height adjustment properly by taking all preload off the springs instead of using the threaded lower receiver to properly lower ride height. What the hell is going on in California? Is English actually a second language these days?!
I understood what you said and you're still wrong. No shop will install coilovers for $60 or less. Find me a shop that will quote that for labor.

Maybe some dude in his garage on the weekend.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:23 PM   #15
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Or you could learn to read an see that I said if they DIDN'T do alignment along with the install op got screwed. If they only installed an he paid more then 60$ he got the bone. ESP cause he doesn't even know if they did the height adjustment properly by taking all preload off the springs instead of using the threaded lower receiver to properly lower ride height. What the hell is going on in California? Is English actually a second language these days?!
perhaps your sentence structure or message isn't being conveyed properly because what you wrote was all in one phrase. There is a button on keyboard called a "Enter" which will help separate your message so it is easier to understand.

Now back on topic:

Name a shop that will install coilovers for $60.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:42 AM   #16
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Even a garage mech won't install coilovers for $60. Maybe per corner but not all 4.
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Or you could learn to read an see that I said if they DIDN'T do alignment along with the install op got screwed. If they only installed an he paid more then 60$ he got the bone. ESP cause he doesn't even know if they did the height adjustment properly by taking all preload off the springs instead of using the threaded lower receiver to properly lower ride height. What the hell is going on in California? Is English actually a second language these days?!
It seems to be.

Look at the first sentence.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=294
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:29 AM   #18
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what a goddamnd NERD
so how much does the samuri charge for an alignment
my left wheel has positive camber and my right one has negative camber
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Even a garage mech won't install coilovers for $60. Maybe per corner but not all 4.

+1, id turn down $60 and just go back to sleep
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:59 PM   #20
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can we ignore: 04stinugget's comment.

Im looking for a local shop, I use to go to meets at off LA avenue and forgot the place they recommended me...If anyone knows of anything in simi valley/camarillo/LA/san fernando valley/chatsworth/sylmar or anything near your comment is much appreciated.
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rockthebox50,

Before you get a alignment get the "Roll Center & Bump Steering Kit" Since your car is now lowered, so your front suspension geometry is off. This cause you experiences strange, bouncy, more understeering, turn responses slow than stock set up right now.

If you can, go back to the shop where you installed the coilover and ask them to raise the car for you (im sure there wont be any extra charge since you were there for coilover installation)

Once that is done, adjust the stiffness on your own just by turning the knob either on top or bottom of your coilover. I believe Stance is on the top of the coilover.

Once that is done, try my set up and see if getting better

Front - Soft
Rear - Hard

If you get an alignment, ask them to do:

Front Camber - 1 or -2
Front Toe out -1 or -.7 (no more than -1)

Rear Camber 0
Toe 0 or if you an advance driver go with toe out -1 or -.7


Again, I HIGHLY recommand you to get the Roll Center Kit to fix your geometry. If you are low on budget then use the recommand ride height set up from the Stance instruction.

If you looking to get sway bar later on. Just buy the rear first along with endlinks and leave the front stock or if you wants, upgrade the front endlinks alone and change the sway bushing kit. STi does not like stiff front it will just cause you more understeering.
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How many miles are on those used coilovers? Are you sure they aren't blown or need a rebuild? How does the bouncyness feel? Like its just riding on spring? Does it feel like the shocks are even working? Alignment won't fix your bouncyness issue. What you will need is to find out if they need rebuilt, if not you need to set ride height first and then mess with settings.
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How many miles are on those used coilovers? Are you sure they aren't blown or need a rebuild? How does the bouncyness feel? Like its just riding on spring? Does it feel like the shocks are even working? Alignment won't fix your bouncyness issue. What you will need is to find out if they need rebuilt, if not you need to set ride height first and then mess with settings.

If the shop installed it for him should find out the problem right away.

Im sure is your suspension geometry is off and probably your coilover is on full stiff setting.
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How many miles are on those used coilovers? Are you sure they aren't blown or need a rebuild? How does the bouncyness feel? Like its just riding on spring? Does it feel like the shocks are even working? Alignment won't fix your bouncyness issue. What you will need is to find out if they need rebuilt, if not you need to set ride height first and then mess with settings.
I installed them with unibombers sexy rear end kit/Front and rear whiteline endlinks/sways. The member who sold his car for a g35 told me only a month or two never been tracked....I drove it today and it's very bouncy, no sounds other than some new friction im hearing under 5mph when i hit the brakes...nvh is alright too, nothing crazy. These are my first coilovers so my judgement isnt the best...Im just looking for a shop/someone to come look at them or help me re adjust them for some money.
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rockthebox50,

Before you get a alignment get the "Roll Center & Bump Steering Kit" Since your car is now lowered, so your front suspension geometry is off. This cause you experiences strange, bouncy, more understeering, turn responses slow than stock set up right now.

If you can, go back to the shop where you installed the coilover and ask them to raise the car for you (im sure there wont be any extra charge since you were there for coilover installation)

Once that is done, adjust the stiffness on your own just by turning the knob either on top or bottom of your coilover. I believe Stance is on the top of the coilover.

Once that is done, try my set up and see if getting better

Front - Soft
Rear - Hard

If you get an alignment, ask them to do:

Front Camber - 1 or -2
Front Toe out -1 or -.7 (no more than -1)

Rear Camber 0
Toe 0 or if you an advance driver go with toe out -1 or -.7


Again, I HIGHLY recommand you to get the Roll Center Kit to fix your geometry. If you are low on budget then use the recommand ride height set up from the Stance instruction.

If you looking to get sway bar later on. Just buy the rear first along with endlinks and leave the front stock or if you wants, upgrade the front endlinks alone and change the sway bushing kit. STi does not like stiff front it will just cause you more understeering.
Originally it's ride height was 1inch lower than stock (07 wrx) because of swapping for sti springs, with the coilovers on it looks alittle lower...But I didn't slam it or anything, it's alittle lower than a stock sti... I'll look into buying the roll center kit then.

.the mechanic gave me these numbers for the ride height and Im confused what they are measurements of- back 5 1/4 front 3 1/2...

thanks for your help
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