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Old 05-27-2012, 02:18 AM   #26
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People ran 11s on the stock 5.0L GTs. I sure hope they can get 10s out of 200 more hp.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:08 PM   #27
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People ran 11s on the stock 5.0L GTs. I sure hope they can get 10s out of 200 more hp.
mehhh unless on slicks i doubt it, pretty sure this cant put power down that much better than the gt
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:14 PM   #28
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Yeah, it's definitely the "gimped gearing", not the fact that the GTR is AWD or anything.
which comes down to why buy this when you can get a gtr that is way better in all aspects and when modded pretty much untouchable compare to 99% of whats out there ,even better the gtr is drivable in all conditions where this..... and if your argument against is that the gtr is more expensive, who can afford this can afford the gtr
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:21 PM   #29
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Which is why the Boss 302 is the greatest mustang to buy.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:34 PM   #30
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A lot of it is indeed for bragging rights.

However, that's not to take away from the car. It's still pretty bad ass and a ton of hp-per-dollar. Almost two tons, actually. But again, you'd think a car with 600+ hp AND launch control would do low-11s without breaking a sweat.
Wow, so much wisdom. Absolutely correct. I saw a new Shelby at the track, 580whp.....ran 14.2 in the 1/4mile, then ran another 15.0 1/4 mile. I kinda did this ...then ...then .
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:35 PM   #31
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Wow, so much wisdom. Absolutely correct. I saw a new Shelby at the track, 580whp.....ran 14.2 in the 1/4mile, then ran another 15.0 1/4 mile. I kinda did this ...then ...then .
But to be fair, the driver of that car may have been completely inexperienced.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:45 PM   #32
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True. He was an older guy, maybe 38-40 and was hyping the car up. I was pumped to see him run. Maybe he thought he'd void his warranty? No clue but he didn't/couldn't drive the car. It was clear he was there to brag.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:02 PM   #33
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True. He was an older guy, maybe 38-40 and was hyping the car up. I was pumped to see him run. Maybe he thought he'd void his warranty? No clue but he didn't/couldn't drive the car. It was clear he was there to brag.
38-40 is old?
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:08 PM   #34
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True. He was an older guy, maybe 38-40 and was hyping the car up. I was pumped to see him run. Maybe he thought he'd void his warranty? No clue but he didn't/couldn't drive the car. It was clear he was there to brag.
Even without launching at all, with that much power and the way these things trap, he still should've been much quicker. Unless it's a pretend Cobra.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:16 PM   #35
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Wow, so much wisdom. Absolutely correct. I saw a new Shelby at the track, 580whp.....ran 14.2 in the 1/4mile, then ran another 15.0 1/4 mile. I kinda did this ...then ...then .
Guy couldn't drive. These cars will run 10's on a set of drag radials. A 07/08 supersnake (equivalent to the 13's power) will run 10.20's with slicks.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:46 PM   #36
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you guys know the gearing is stupid long in these right?

Edit: It seems some understand the gimped gearing in these. That's why they aren't drag monsters.. If it had shorter gearing idiots would buy these and kill themselves getting the tires to spin at 70mph.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:55 PM   #37
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But with that kind of power (along with the torque curve of a supercharged 5.8-liter V-8), you don't need super short gears.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:06 PM   #38
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But with that kind of power (along with the torque curve of a supercharged 5.8-liter V-8), you don't need super short gears.
Not super short but these things are stupid long. 2nd gear tops out at 140...
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Not super short but these things are stupid long. 2nd gear tops out at 140...
Once again not even close to true. Top of 3rd is in the 120 range. Coming from someone who has one in the family and has actually driven the car. teh 13 has the same ratio and tr6060 as the previous generations.
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Once again not even close to true. Top of 3rd is in the 120 range. Coming from someone who has one in the family and has actually driven the car. teh 13 has the same ratio and tr6060 as the previous generations.
"All of this works well until you stand on the right pedal, at which point it works very well, and then you look down at the speedometer and realize you’re going 140 mph and have only shifted twice."


Your semi correct.. I read it wrong
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:18 PM   #41
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haha all is well. Looks like they've altered gearing a bit in the car to make launching easier. 3rd might top off at 140 in this generation. They had to change the gearing up, in my dad's kenne belled 07 (670 rwhp) the power is completely useless on street tires up to 3rd gear. You have to be real easy on the throttle or you'll bow the tires off. This car will be the same, but it will be a bit easier to pedal it down the strip.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:23 PM   #42
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I am not sure why all the hype, for a car that will be nothing but a youtube drag racing car.

Too much power to be useful = Dumb. It is all about balance. Destroying balance for the sake of bragging rights is the best way to appeal to trailer red necks.
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Because some people like to drag race. In fact a **** ton of people do. And with a bit of suspension work they turn quite nicely too. You can get off your high horse now.
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No I do not think so. I like the view up here.

The car was made to go faster in a straight line than the ZL1 camaro. It is the age old pissing contest between rivals, where intelligence and common sense gets lots in the chase for a single differentiating metric.

Stupidity ensues. Thank God Ford made a Mustang for people with all their Chromosomes.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:33 PM   #45
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As a side note, speaking of straightline speed, Motor Trend just recently posted an article about how they wanted to test Ford's top speed claims. They "only" managed 196 mph over two days of testing (during which they purposely went out very early the following morning to get cooler air) while in the end thinking that 200 mph isn't doable.
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As a side note, speaking of straightline speed, Motor Trend just recently posted an article about how they wanted to test Ford's top speed claims. They "only" managed 196 mph over two days of testing (during which they purposely went out very early the following morning to get cooler air) while in the end thinking that 200 mph isn't doable.
What you are saying isn't true. They said in the article that at the track they were at they were limited by the triple digit heat, that the track was an oval without enough straightaway, and the fact that the track was at elevation.

They said in the article:
"Seems certain it would’ve at a lower elevation with denser air -- despite the greater air resistance...It's a 200-mph car for sure. We just need to go out onto the interstate where the straights are longer!...Then we run it flat out on K&N's DynoJet rollers to see what the GT500 could do at a lower elevation, unimpeded by air resistance. The digital readout confirms two things: 211 mph and an overspeed warning for the dyno equipment"



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GT500 blasts from 0-60 mph in a scant 3.5 seconds, on toward a quarter-mile time of 11.6 seconds at 125.7 mph. For context, the previous GT500, which put out a relatively pedestrian 550 hp and 510 lb-ft, needed 4.1 seconds to reach 60 and 12.4 seconds at 115.8 mph to eclipse the quarter, while the aforementioned ZL1 required 3.8 and 12.1 @ 117.4, respectively.

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I am not sure why all the hype, for a car that will be nothing but a youtube drag racing car.

Too much power to be useful = Dumb. It is all about balance. Destroying balance for the sake of bragging rights is the best way to appeal to trailer red necks.
Well lets see how it handles compared to a 2011 STi.

Figure 8:
GT500:24.2 sec @ 0.80 g
STi :25.5 sec @ 0.73 g

Lateral Accel:
GT500: 0.98 g (avg)
STi: 0.93 g (avg)

Braking 60-0
GT500: 101ft
STi: 113ft

EPA city/hwy:
GT500: 15/24 mpg
STi: 17/23 mpg

Looks like it can turn too...
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What you are saying isn't true. They said in the article that at the track they were at they were limited by the triple digit heat, that the track was an oval without enough straightaway, and the fact that the track was at elevation.
Sorry, I just mis-read a bit of it, particularly this part, which did say that they wouldn't hit 200:

"I doubt, given an infinite-length straight, we would've seen 200,” says Reynolds, after analyzing the data. “I plotted the GT500's speed as it approached 196 with 200 as a line drawn above it, and I doubt they would meet -- but they’d get really close. Seems certain it would’ve at a lower elevation with denser air -- despite the greater air resistance."

I get what they're saying, but it's a top-speed test track. You should've have to go to Death Valley or some place with a pretty low elevation to do it, especially when we're talking about a car with forced induction.
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Guy couldn't drive. These cars will run 10's on a set of drag radials. A 07/08 supersnake (equivalent to the 13's power) will run 10.20's with slicks.
Last time I was at the track there was a gt 500 there running slicks. He was consistenly running mid to low 11's. He had a couple runs in the high 11's. I am not an expert on driving but he seemed like he was running pretty well, although he did not seem to be really launching the car at all.
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