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Old 06-04-2012, 11:50 PM   #51
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Wedge something in there to test it out first. You have to see what will stop it before coming up with a solution. I think most of the noises can be fixed by adding some thin foam tape to the bottom section of the a-pillar. Taking off the tweeter mesh grill would make it easier to put the padding in.

Again, first see if that's the problem.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:57 PM   #52
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AAHHH!! These dash rattles are driving me nuts! They take away so much from an other-wise decent quality interior. I tend to be a perfectionist and things like these dash rattles really get to me. They seem to get worse and multiply every damn day. Granted they are intermittent most of the time, but with today being cooler than recent days (under 60 degrees), they were all buzzing at the same friggin time. I can't even imagine what the interior is going to sound like during the winter months. I have definitely pin-pointed two of the rattles as being the two A-pillars near the tweeters grills. The loudest, most annoying and most frequent rattle is somewhere inside the center of the dash. I could probably deal with the few other quieter, less frequent rattles if I could just figure out what the big one is. I don't feel like ripping my dash apart so maybe I'll just take it to the stealer and see what they say. I feel confident enough to take off the A-pillars and try some foam tape, but I'm not 100% sure what the pillars are rattling against. Anyway, sorry for the rant. I know the Impreza isn't a luxury vehicle by any means, but it's a brand new $20000+ car and the interior sounds cheaper than my buddy's 1996 Geo Metro.
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AAHHH!! These dash rattles are driving me nuts! They take away so much from an other-wise decent quality interior. I tend to be a perfectionist and things like these dash rattles really get to me. They seem to get worse and multiply every damn day. Granted they are intermittent most of the time, but with today being cooler than recent days (under 60 degrees), they were all buzzing at the same friggin time. I can't even imagine what the interior is going to sound like during the winter months. I have definitely pin-pointed two of the rattles as being the two A-pillars near the tweeters grills. The loudest, most annoying and most frequent rattle is somewhere inside the center of the dash. I could probably deal with the few other quieter, less frequent rattles if I could just figure out what the big one is. I don't feel like ripping my dash apart so maybe I'll just take it to the stealer and see what they say. I feel confident enough to take off the A-pillars and try some foam tape, but I'm not 100% sure what the pillars are rattling against. Anyway, sorry for the rant. I know the Impreza isn't a luxury vehicle by any means, but it's a brand new $20000+ car and the interior sounds cheaper than my buddy's 1996 Geo Metro.
If it bothers you and you don't feel like doing things yourself, bring it in to the dealership. They will have to fix it if you can replicate it to them.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:31 AM   #54
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If it bothers you and you don't feel like doing things yourself, bring it in to the dealership. They will have to fix it if you can replicate it to them.
I'll probably end up doing that and have them do the TSB for the steering column trim at the same time. Although, I'm not sure I completely trust the dealership to take the dash apart to fix a rattle without causing two more in it's place. I may attempt to take off the A pillar trim tomorrow, if it's not raining, and see if some foam tape quiets thing down. Just a little paranoid about breaking something in a brand new car.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:00 AM   #55
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I'll probably end up doing that and have them do the TSB for the steering column trim at the same time. Although, I'm not sure I completely trust the dealership to take the dash apart to fix a rattle without causing two more in it's place. I may attempt to take off the A pillar trim tomorrow, if it's not raining, and see if some foam tape quiets thing down. Just a little paranoid about breaking something in a brand new car.
I posted the instructions on how to remove the trim. Let me know if you can't find it. Good luck!
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:14 PM   #56
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I'll probably end up doing that and have them do the TSB for the steering column trim at the same time. Although, I'm not sure I completely trust the dealership to take the dash apart to fix a rattle without causing two more in it's place. I may attempt to take off the A pillar trim tomorrow, if it's not raining, and see if some foam tape quiets thing down. Just a little paranoid about breaking something in a brand new car.
keep us posted. my problem so far is that they are intermittent. of course, if they were constant, i would either be insane by now, or i would have had it to the dealer to fix them.

i tried stuffing the a pillar from the outside with an old folded up parking permit (cardstock). we'll see how that performs.

i also have the central dash rattle on occasion. i'm pretty sure it's the "lid" of the trip/clock/temp computer readout. not sure how to quell that play as i am not very interested in opening up the dash.

as i've said before: intermittency is a mixed blessing: i'm glad that 3/4 of the time (just a rough guess) the car is dead silent...but when it's rattling like it can, it really drives me nuts as i don't think i've had a car rattle like this in many years (except for some of the crappy rentals i've had)
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:20 PM   #57
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Wait what is this steering column TSB????
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:51 PM   #58
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Wait what is this steering column TSB????
Click here. Once you're at the site, click on the "Online Reference" link then choose "Technical Service Bulletin" under Publication Type. You'll then have to choose your model, year, etc. and click on the search button. The TSB for the steering column cover is about half way down the list.

You can't view the PDF file unless you have an account, but you can read the description.

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Old 06-06-2012, 12:24 AM   #59
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Click here. Once you're at the site, click on the "Online Reference" link then choose "Technical Service Bulletin" under Publication Type. You'll then have to choose your model, year, etc. and click on the search button. The TSB for the steering column cover is about half way down the list.

You can't view the PDF file unless you have an account, but you can read the description.
Wow great, thanks. Is this a new TSB? Does anyone know if it helps quell any of the rattling in that area?
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Wow great, thanks. Is this a new TSB? Does anyone know if it helps quell any of the rattling in that area?
IIRC the TSB was to address the ignition area, "key hole" for lack of a better term, not being centered in the opening on the steering column. For some the key hole area is off to the side of the surrounding cut-out of the steering column. The service manual also says for steering column rattles to add foam tape to the area causing it until rattle resolves. Pretty simple there, may be something you could do yourself as the steering column is pretty accessible. If you take it to your dealer they should be able to do both the TSB issue & the rattle all at once.
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:45 AM   #61
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Technical Service Bulletin # 12-129-12R
Pages: 6

Bulletin Description: If you encounter a customer complaint that the ignition key lock cylinder is not centered in the steering column cover opening, a modification to the upper steering column will be required. Refer to the repair procedure listed to remedy the condition.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:15 AM   #62
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Hi there - checking back in. Recall that I had tried two different methods of quieting the A-pillars on my March build Impreza (sport ltd). Passenger side I removed the grill (carefully used a flat bladed watch screwdriver and pried up about 1 inch inboard of the sides along the bottom to start the grill, then pried it the rest of the way out (gently!) with my hands). Anyway, for that side I folded felt padding and inserted/jammed it up under the "point" near the clip of the A-pillar cover - which seems to have done the job. The driver's side was more "quick and dirty" to see if this method would also work. There, I just jammed a felt pad between the windscreen and the top of the A-pillar cover. That too seems to have worked. I will probably move to duplicate the passenger side sometime soon since it is less obvious.

Still, good to know we have power over some of the obvious rattles/buzzes.

The link below is an exact copy of the felt pads I am using.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_54008-255-47...r|1&facetInfo=

Hope that is helpful.

I think I have heard the deep in the dash rattle but only a few times, so fingers crossed on that one for now.

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Old 06-06-2012, 01:08 PM   #63
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thanks for the check in, sager.

i definitely need to try this out: i squashed a piece of cardstock between the windshield and the a pillar and in my brief driving yesterday, the rattle was gone. but i think i need a longer term analysis to convince myself that it worked.

however, i am glad to get your experience as it is a better looking solution. but i hope i understand you correctly. if i recall, when i did my tweeter upgrade, there is a "tooth" (white) with a notch that is part of the a pillar that comes down and meets the speaker grill panel. is that the "point" you wrapped or stuffed this felt pad under?

i guess the idea here is to minimize motion of the a-pillar under rough roads/vibration. so whatever we try, it's to make it more rigid. i need to take a trip to home depot and/or lowe's this weekend to try something like this out. i hope this works as it will be one set of rattles i wont' have to deal with.

is your other dash rattle coming from the center computer readout area (mpg/clock/temp). i think that lid over the top of that display can rattle and buzz. i wonder if there is an easy fix to remove the play in that lid.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:23 PM   #64
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I had the steering wheel cover TSB done and it fits perfect with no rattles
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I had the steering wheel cover TSB done and it fits perfect with no rattles
Glad to hear it. Does it remedy all the saggy, loose plastic below the steering wheel as well?
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:27 AM   #66
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so, maybe i'll be the only participant, but if not, this may be of help to some of us who can commiserate and perhaps, if we are fortunate enough, find solutions to our rattle problems.

i know these can theoretically be fixed by the dealer, but in my case, i'm doubtful of that being a solution, especially if and when the rattles are intermittent.

i've been probably overly repetitive in other threads about my rattle issues, but i now have four that i have had occur all intermittently although a couple of them are more regular than others.

it should be noted that unless noted, i could be totally wrong about the location of these rattles as sound can travel in weird ways in cars and one's perceived ability to locate sound can be tricky with all of the reflective surfaces.

1. rattle on the passenger side of car about same depth (distance from windshield) as head rest. i thought the headrest was rattling but the more i explore (trying different tilts and extension settings and holding it while driving) i'm now pretty sure it's not the head rest. my new hypothesis, which is hard to test without a passenger*, is that it may be the panel of the side airbag or the one below it. this is probably my most persistent rattle although it, like the others is generally better or nonexistent once the car is warm enough from sitting in the sun. i don't want to even consider touching the side airbag panel if that turns out to be the cause. i'd rather have a rattle than mess up the safety features of this car.

2. rattle from steering column area near the the knee airbag. i've reported on this elsewhere. i can make the rattle stop by pinching together the adjacent panel and this airbag panel so i know roughly where it is located, but i can't figure out exactly where something is rubbing within the panel. this is very intermittent. it used to only happen when the car was cool (again, defined by not being in the sun, and the ambient temp is below 70 oF), but now, the past couple of mornings, it has been nonexistent under those conditions, yet i heard it faintly after driving a while (it warmed up some) and then not there at all when the car is warm. i'm hoping and praying wishfully that this one may solve itself. this is my most annoying rattle, i think, because it is so near to me when i'm driving and has a really high paced (tap tap tap) very fast) type of sound and can almost sound a bit creaky in tone.

3. i have occasionally heard rattles, i'm pretty sure from the passenger tweeter cover on the dash. it's gone for now after i've pushed firmly down on that panel. i may play with it more once i get the tweeter upgrade ordered and have to install it. i'm guessing there is some excess play that could be mitigated by some felt dots or strip laid down in various places.

4. a really annoying rattle/buzz that i've only gotten on a few occasions: if i hit a really rough patch of road, something in the dash area just in front of me (the driver) buzzes and rattles pretty loudly. i've tried to grab and push everything in my vicinity, but it seems/sounds like it might be coming from within the dash. thankfully, it usually lasts only 20-30 seconds and i've had it happen 3-4 times in the 6 weeks of ownership, but this one would drive me nuts if it ever became regularly.

finally, someone mentioned before being able to tighten their rear latch. i think i've heard something on occasion back there when hitting the just the right bump. not really a big deal to me, but i wouldn't mind hearing about how that can be adjusted should i need to do so down the road.

so anyway, i know i'm probably nuts for bring this up, but i wanted to start a potentially helpful thread for some of us neurotic perfectionist types.

maybe it'll just become a coping group/thread...


* my wife thinks i'm insane (she's probably right) for focusing on rattles so she's not going to be much help in tracking these down for me.
Your not the only one! I have these freaking rattles too and it does drive me nuts sometime, ok most of the time.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:03 AM   #67
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nubsub, I had that rattle near the head rest area. It made a 'tick 'tick noise when I went over any imperfection in the road. I noticed that when I drove with the car door not fully closed but latched (I don't suggest people to do so), the noise went away. To make the noise go away, I tweaked the upper door frame ever so slightly inwards and the noise went away (knock on wood). Don't know if that is the same noise as yours, but it sounds like it.
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nubsub, I had that rattle near the head rest area. It made a 'tick 'tick noise when I went over any imperfection in the road. I noticed that when I drove with the car door not fully closed but latched (I don't suggest people to do so), the noise went away. To make the noise go away, I tweaked the upper door frame ever so slightly inwards and the noise went away (knock on wood). Don't know if that is the same noise as yours, but it sounds like it.
i need to do a lot more research on this problem. the problem is: my wife doesn't hear it! and i'm the only one who drives this car although it's a CVT so she should (she is paranoid about doing something dumb with my/our new car...sigh)

anyway, i did another experiment yesterday and i do think it's in the headrest itself or something in the seat...i had the seat tilted back (laying as flat as possible) and the sound moved to further away from me while driving, so i don't think mine is the door latch/lock. (but i'll keep that in mind)

the next step will be to remove the headrest to see if it goes away.

the problem (and again good thing, too) is that the problem is intermittent. it's only there when the car is cool. after being in the sun a little bit, it goes away...
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Your not the only one! I have these freaking rattles too and it does drive me nuts sometime, ok most of the time.


misery loves company. i am hoping this weekend to pursue the a-pillar rattles by opening up the speaker covers for the tweeters and putting some felt pads as suggested by others to try to make those a pillars more rigid.

as i noted in my last post, i still need to experiment more on the whole headrest one...i think i'd feel some success to even find out where it was coming from so i can either give up or come up with a solution.

that one near the knee airbag is still only occasional, but there has to be a fix that's easy since i can pinpoint it fairly well. i'm just very worried about dealing with an area near an airbag.
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AAHHH!! These dash rattles are driving me nuts! They take away so much from an other-wise decent quality interior. I tend to be a perfectionist and things like these dash rattles really get to me. They seem to get worse and multiply every damn day. Granted they are intermittent most of the time, but with today being cooler than recent days (under 60 degrees), they were all buzzing at the same friggin time. I can't even imagine what the interior is going to sound like during the winter months. I have definitely pin-pointed two of the rattles as being the two A-pillars near the tweeters grills. The loudest, most annoying and most frequent rattle is somewhere inside the center of the dash. I could probably deal with the few other quieter, less frequent rattles if I could just figure out what the big one is. I don't feel like ripping my dash apart so maybe I'll just take it to the stealer and see what they say. I feel confident enough to take off the A-pillars and try some foam tape, but I'm not 100% sure what the pillars are rattling against. Anyway, sorry for the rant. I know the Impreza isn't a luxury vehicle by any means, but it's a brand new $20000+ car and the interior sounds cheaper than my buddy's 1996 Geo Metro.
I have the same issues with the loud, frequent but intermittent rattle in the middle of the dash, as well as the A-pillar rattle. Again, found that pushing on the tweeter speaker silences the A-pillar rattle temporily, and agree that wedging some foam tape in there will probably do the trick. But its the other rattle in the middle of the dash that's driving me nuts. Mine seems to be coming from the passenger side near the windsheild about halfway between the trip computer and the passenger side A-pillar. Cant seem to stop it no matter what i push on. Made an appointment at the dealership for next week to see if they can find anything, ill keep you guys in the loop.
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I get some creak from the top panel where it meets the info display when it gets really warm. Looks like some foam tape or padding underneath will do the trick
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I get some creak from the top panel where it meets the info display when it gets really warm. Looks like some foam tape or padding underneath will do the trick
Easy to take this off though to put in the foam tape?
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I solved my hatch creak and rattle problems. I will start a new thread w pictures on how to do this.
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Glad to hear it. Does it remedy all the saggy, loose plastic below the steering wheel as well?

Not sure what part you mean? The knee airbag piece? The steering wheel column plastic is tight and the key ring light is now centered
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i did a little work on rattles today:

i bought some felt circles (3/16" thick), cut them in half, stuck them together and wedged them under the A-pillar panel which i got access to by taking off the tweeter covers. interestingly, the driver's side one was the one with the most play initially, but the stacked pad made it very rigid and i'm pretty confident it won't rattle again. for the passenger side, which initially was tighter, it still had some play in the corner closest the passenger, so i wedged a thin strip of cardboard in there to lock it tight. the only problem is that the tweeter cover doesn't sit flush anymore...not a big deal if it gets rid of the sound, but we'll see how it goes in the coming week and if the sound is gone. i may still remove the cardboard to see if it's needed or to try something different as i would like to keep that part flush else that may be a new source of noise.

as for my knee airbag piece, i strained my neck (literally -- it didn't feel very good) to look behind it using a headlamp. i can see why there is tons of play in that piece. i'm not sure that's the cause of my intermittent rattle, but i stuck another felt pad in there to remove one direction of motion that was easy to do. interestingly enough, there was already one tiny piece of foam tape there to apparently protect against a rattle from that area.

my gut hunch though is that my creaking/rattle is coming from somewhere higher up and not accessible to my hand... but we'll see. there is a lot of room for experimentation here.

i still haven't tried removing my headrest from the passenger side to see if i can isolate it to that part, but i do feel good that i actually took some steps today to maybe improve the rattling situation.

i probably should get the steering column plastic fixed by the dealer at some point although i'm not in a hurry as i don't have a rattle there.

finally, i put some pressure on the top panel of the info display. it sounds like there is actually some sort of foam tape under there already, but not enough? it's not clear that there is any easy way to remove that unless there are some clips that one would need to carefully pry up on.
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