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Old 06-07-2012, 01:40 PM   #626
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Yea I plan on using ur setup exhaust wise plenty of research has shown me that's the way to go I was just wondering why u went with Cobb and if it was better or worse than the others. I am in the beginning stages currently which is y I also want to know if I get an access port is the OTS for stock a good idea or do I have to worry about it runnin lean wo custom tune
The Cobb OTS map for a stock WRX is a nice boost to start with but add the intake, down pipe and exhaust, and the car really wakes up. You can get the car Pro Tuned from there and some tuners can get an extra couple HP over Cobbs map depending on your location.

I thought my OTS Stage 2 Map was fine for daily use. I would have kept it but I needed it tuned because of the injectors, plugs and boost controller.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:44 PM   #627
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I live in buffalo ny only 93 octane for me but I like ur numbers an trust ur tuner preference which is y efi will be doing mine also u have made the wrx do what I'm looking to do so im pricing everything out with one of my guys at horsepower freaks.com an then go from there
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:56 PM   #628
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Hey Man, thank you for your kind words, it really means a lot!!
Where are you driving from? I'll be heading down to New York this weekend so maybe I'll see you on the way!
No problem! My girlfriend is riding in the Trek Across Maine for Lung cancer, I believe it ends in Belfast - no idea where that is to be honest.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:59 PM   #629
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No problem! My girlfriend is riding in the Trek Across Maine for Lung cancer, I believe it ends in Belfast - no idea where that is to be honest.
Awesome, Belfast is 5 miles from here good for her!! I'm in Rockport, ME
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:01 PM   #630
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I live in buffalo ny only 93 octane for me but I like ur numbers an trust ur tuner preference which is y efi will be doing mine also u have made the wrx do what I'm looking to do so im pricing everything out with one of my guys at horsepower freaks.com an then go from there
Sounds like a good plan, we'll be here to help!
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:02 PM   #631
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Awesome, Belfast is 5 miles from here good for her!! I'm in Rockport, ME
Just looked at the map, long way from Boston, what have I gotten myself into..
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:07 PM   #632
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So then the accessport is a good idea to start and the ots cobb map is also good
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:40 PM   #633
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So then the accessport is a good idea to start and the ots cobb map is also good
I would the best start to a nice ride for the summer would be a Stock Stage 1 Map from COBB. Gather your parts over the next season or so and do Stage 2+ when you get them all. If you have some extra money you can always get EFI to ProTune the Stage 2+ and come out with a really nice smooth map that has the parts you put on working together for the best our put.

For now, don't worry about any tuning. Just get the AP and plug in a stock stage 1 map and have an awesome summer!!
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #634
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Sounds good man I really appreciate it I'm probly going to write a list of questions while I follow ur thread I get so many ideas so Ty again and I will keep up
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:17 PM   #635
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What were your numbers? I know they are posted somewhere in this thread..
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:28 PM   #636
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What were your numbers? I know they are posted somewhere in this thread..
Haha, yeah it's getting a little long...

294HP/330TQ on 93oct
I haven't scanned the printout but If remember I'll post it later.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:47 PM   #637
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Haha, yeah it's getting a little long...

294HP/330TQ on 93oct
I haven't scanned the printout but If remember I'll post it later.
Nice! What psi?

I recently got a protune from Hill at Agile Auto. Ended up with 315whp/342wtq @ 20.5psi on Sunoco 93. I wasn't too concerned with numbers but it'd be cool to compare the dyno charts. The car feels great and is really fun to drive.

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Old 06-07-2012, 09:12 PM   #638
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Nice! What psi?

I recently got a protune from Hill at Agile Auto. Ended up with 315whp/342wtq @ 20.5psi on Sunoco 93. I wasn't too concerned with numbers but it'd be cool to compare the dyno charts. The car feels great and is really fun to drive.

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Wow, we're like twins!
I was just under 22psi on that pull but it's amazing the difference from Dyno to Dyno. Same car, same mods 20+ HP difference.

That fits just about right for a Dynopack though. They give out readings that are 10-15% higher then a mustang and very similar to a dynojet. I'll get the chart up soon. Do you have yours?
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:45 PM   #639
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Wow, we're like twins!
I was just under 22psi on that pull but it's amazing the difference from Dyno to Dyno. Same car, same mods 20+ HP difference.

That fits just about right for a Dynopack though. They give out readings that are 10-15% higher then a mustang and very similar to a dynojet. I'll get the chart up soon. Do you have yours?
I honestly didn't expect the numbers to be that high after seeing another wrx make 296whp/327wtq at Agile a few months ago. Only difference was a Cobb tbe and intake instead. I've heard the AEM intake makes a few more hp but nothing you would notice driving the car.

Hill said every car is a bit different and he's had the best luck with Sunoco fuel so told me to stick with that. I also got tuned on pretty much the perfect day, barely 70 degree's, no humidity.

I need to have them email me the graph but in the meantime I took a pic of the paper graph. I'll just PM you with it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:28 PM   #640
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Overland do You have the catless or catted dp
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:40 PM   #641
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Overland do You have the catless or catted dp
It's catted, I'll be moving back to New York in the future so in Westchester county they'll be checking for a cat during inspection.
I'm not sure of the difference in power though. I've heard it's pretty minimal but I may be totally wrong...
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Ok cool one again I'm in buffalo ny so... Emissions for me also
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Also u had said ur not using the capabilities of ur injectors think 650s would produce same power
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Also u had said ur not using the capabilities of ur injectors think 650s would produce same power
I honestly think the stock injectors will produce the same power. If I run E85 I'll use them to their potential but for stage 2+ I've seen the exact numbers with just the Turbo back invidia, intake, EBCS and process west intercooler with a good tune.
If I would do it again, that would be my choice for power up to 300HP. Then if I decide to go big, it would be to do everything from a bottom end, turbo, injectors, header, EWG, uppipe, etc...
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Also I was wondering if u can explain this boost flutter that the ebcs causes and should I just get mbc for efi to tune with?
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:58 PM   #648
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Also I was wondering if u can explain this boost flutter that the ebcs causes and should I just get mbc for efi to tune with?
The boost flutter is something that EFI was aware of but didn't make a big deal about it. It flutters but my map curve is smooth so it might sound weird but I guess it doesn't effect power too much or i'm sure they would get rid of it.
I do know if you show up to EFI with an MBC and EBCS like I did the will laugh you off the dyno. Chris was so frustrated with the hype of the hybrid setup so I pulled my car off with my tail between my legs and removed it.
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So in ur opinion what would u rather use
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So in ur opinion what would u rather use
In terms of all manual or electronic?
I'd still go electronic for my purpose. I switch back and fourth between 91 and 93 octane because of where I live in Maine but I had two maps made at EFI and one is 19.5psi and the other is 22 so every time I changed maps, I would have to go out and mess with the MBC to get the right PSI. I'm sure once I figured out how many clicks it was, it'll be easy but I didn't want to not click enough and find out the hard way during a hard pull and run the wrong psi on the wrong fuel. So easy electronic with flutter for me
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