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Old 06-09-2012, 01:05 AM   #12551
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love to see a Consumer Reports, or similar, do some paint endurance testing comparisons. I feel like Subaru would be at the bottom, even behind lower end Chevy/Fords. My brother just got a Hyundai and the paint looks/feels much thicker.
FYI Consumer Reports does rate the quality of paint on all models it has reliability data for. With modern environmental regulations and the required switch to water-based automotive paints, all manufacturers have had issues. Look at the forums for the Mazda3, Focus, Cruze, and Elantra- they all have many complaints with paint quality. If you think it is a Subaru problem you are mistaken, it is industry wide.

And I hardly believe the differences in paint thickness is visible to the human eye. And how would paint "feel" thicker?
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:05 AM   #12552
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I drove the BRZ and I have the Impreza. They are totally different cars. The Impreza is practical and the BRZ is ridiculously impractical. The trunk is very small and shallow and the backseat is non-usable. Since it snows in Colorado, if you don't have another car to drive in the snow, you would be very foolish to get the BRZ.
Truth to this. You have to decide just how much practicality you want in your life. The Impreza handles surprising well and it pretty spunky, even with the CVT. You just have to know how to use it. I spent 5 days with a Base trim loaner and miss it already compared to my WRX.

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I have to ask if u have driven the car? I read the articles and my fiancÚ is buying a 2012 Impreza Sport. Went to the dealer yesterday and drive a BRZ while we were there. I'm just not impressed. If u drove and like it, support the new car.
I could see this. I wasn't impressed with it initially, either, but I think it had a lot more to do with the fact that it wasn't MY car. Apparently the BRZ shines when you're pushing it or just simply turning, so it wouldn't be very engaging to drive where you have more straightaways than turns. During my daily route to work the BRZ would be a blast since there's a long, wide turn, several swooping curves and two roundabouts I negation with each day.
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:57 AM   #12553
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Finally got an update! June 18th is the ETA!
Updated again, and it is now June 27th eta. April 1st was the order date. . .
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:11 AM   #12554
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And I hardly believe the differences in paint thickness is visible to the human eye. And how would paint "feel" thicker?
spidey-sense!

IMHO just something else to complain about, from people who are likely going to switch cars within 5 years anyway.
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:21 AM   #12555
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I drove the BRZ and I have the Impreza. They are totally different cars. The Impreza is practical and the BRZ is ridiculously impractical. The trunk is very small and shallow and the backseat is non-usable. Since it snows in Colorado, if you don't have another car to drive in the snow, you would be very foolish to get the BRZ.
I'm in CO and a nice pair of blizzakas would be warranted for any type of snow driving. The BRZ uses the front and rear suspension along with the EPS from the Impreza. I'm sure the suspension is modified.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:26 AM   #12556
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spidey-sense!

IMHO just something else to complain about, from people who are likely going to switch cars within 5 years anyway.
It's the only thing I've complained about with this car. And I plan to drive it to death and drop it off at Subaru heaven one day. And yes, it was my spidey sense.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:17 PM   #12557
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I'm in CO and a nice pair of blizzakas would be warranted for any type of snow driving. The BRZ uses the front and rear suspension along with the EPS from the Impreza. I'm sure the suspension is modified.
It has a different platform as the Impreza. Not arguing the suspension type, I'm saying the cars themselves are completely different. Especially when it comes to interior room, ride height, drive train, usability, etc.
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:23 PM   #12558
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My Impreza has 10K on the clock and is already showing some notable chips. It isn't terrible though, so I am not worried about it. In a few years I will bring the car to a reconditioning shop and have them fix the front paint.
thats why i opted for a paint protective film/ clear bra to take care of the worries of stones, pebbles, bugs... damaging the paint. had xpel ultimate installed on the bumper, hood, side mirrors, head/ fog lights and fenders.







after installation.

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Old 06-09-2012, 02:30 PM   #12559
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What is this xpel ultimate and is it significantly better than the OEM film?
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:40 PM   #12560
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What is this xpel ultimate and is it significantly better than the OEM film?
its paint protective film that you put on the car.

here some info on the web about it. i found a great review on another forum

http://forums.nicoclub.com/clear-bra...s-t480717.html

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Old 06-09-2012, 03:52 PM   #12561
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Just brought my doggie for a ride in the new car... he's light haired and now my black interior looks really unappealing (also, the seat materials don't make vacuuming dog hair easy I have learned).

Any recommendations for a good dog-friendly rear seat cover?
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Old 06-09-2012, 04:29 PM   #12562
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Just brought my doggie for a ride in the new car... he's light haired and now my black interior looks really unappealing (also, the seat materials don't make vacuuming dog hair easy I have learned).

Any recommendations for a good dog-friendly rear seat cover?
This is what I have in my backseat for the dogs:

Amazon.com: Outward Hound Back Seat Pet Hammock, Black: Pet SuppliesAmazon.com: Outward Hound Back Seat Pet Hammock, Black: Pet Supplies


It's a great product- affordable, easy to install, and it protects the back of the front seats if installed as a "hammock". You can also just attach it to the rear headrests and have it lay over the seats and part of the floor.
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:25 PM   #12563
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Took the car in for the first oil change at 3k (next one scheduled for 7500) I asked them to check the rear suspension and i told them that i had 1" spacers to raise it back to stock height. So after all is said and done they said they couldnt find anything wrong with the suspension and said it was within height specs. I asked if they removed the spacers and the 17 year old oil lube guy was clueless (nice to see they have the most experienced and brightest work on my vehicle) and said he did (I know you cant see them unless you jack the car up) The Parts manager told me to come back at 7500 and they will check it again. Looks like ill just have to remove the spacers before i come back.

Would have been nice for him to return my seat to the original position but thats just minor bitching
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:13 AM   #12564
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Took the car in for the first oil change at 3k (next one scheduled for 7500) I asked them to check the rear suspension and i told them that i had 1" spacers to raise it back to stock height. So after all is said and done they said they couldnt find anything wrong with the suspension and said it was within height specs. I asked if they removed the spacers and the 17 year old oil lube guy was clueless (nice to see they have the most experienced and brightest work on my vehicle) and said he did (I know you cant see them unless you jack the car up) The Parts manager told me to come back at 7500 and they will check it again. Looks like ill just have to remove the spacers before i come back.

Would have been nice for him to return my seat to the original position but thats just minor bitching
Why did you want them to check your rear suspension?
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:20 AM   #12565
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Do people really bitch about stuff like this? Wow.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:16 AM   #12566
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Installed the roof spoiler tonight and the front underspoilers last night. Underspoilers were easy; the roof spoiler was more work but went pretty smoothly except for my 12 mm drill bit catching on the sheet metal and mangling the holes a bit. I was able to clean up the holes without too much trouble though and the rest was fine. I took pictures of the install since someone was asking for that; I'll post them tomorrow probably. Super happy with the way the car looks now.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:36 AM   #12567
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Why did you want them to check your rear suspension?
Because its sagging so much i had to put 1" spacers to level it out again. If it sags out of spec it can cause abnormal tire ware on the front. Part of the Suspensions job is maintain ride height if its no longer doing its job then it can be perceived to be faulty.

I know the spacers are a temporary fix so i wanted to see if it would be replaced under warranty. Ill take it to a suspension shop if they dont do anything next time.

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Old 06-10-2012, 08:07 AM   #12568
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If you want suspension fixed under warranty it would probably be a good idea to return it back to stock before you bring the car to the dealer to check it out.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:59 AM   #12569
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Actually, you should bring it in 'before' you modify it to have it checked out if you want it serviced under warranty.

Once you start modifying the suspension, they can claim your modifications are the cause of your problem.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:39 AM   #12570
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If you want suspension fixed under warranty it would probably be a good idea to return it back to stock before you bring the car to the dealer to check it out.
I had told them that i had spacers because it was sagging. You would have thought they would have removed the spacers to check the suspension sag. It takes lifting the side and pulling them out 5 min for each side in no way did rubber coil spacers alter the suspension in a negative way it just reduced the settling. It wont affect the warranty status. Taking it to an independent shop will affect the warranty though

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Old 06-10-2012, 10:03 AM   #12571
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I had told them that i had spacers because it was sagging. You would have thought they would have removed the spacers to check the suspension sag. It takes lifting the side and pulling them out 5 min for each side in no way did rubber coil spacers alter the suspension in a negative way it just reduced the settling. It wont affect the warranty status. Taking it to an independent shop will affect the warranty though
you are expecting too much, remove the spacers that you installed before you take it to them so they can measure and verify if it meets specs.

Most people who think there is an issue don't try to repair it themselves. See if they think it is an issue then do your own work if they say it meets spec and you don't agree
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:33 AM   #12572
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you are expecting too much, remove the spacers that you installed before you take it to them so they can measure and verify if it meets specs.

Most people who think there is an issue don't try to repair it themselves. See if they think it is an issue then do your own work if they say it meets spec and you don't agree
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Looks like ill just have to remove the spacers before i come back.
Yes i do expect too much.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:33 PM   #12573
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anyone with the seat back protectors in the hatch have rattling issues? i got mine installed last weekend, and hadn't driven my car since until yesterday, the middle section of the seat protectors isn't very secure and it rattles against the security cover. the 2 options i was thinking of:
1. more heavy duty velcro to secure the loose areas.
2. remove the security cover all together.

anything else I could try?
Ask the dealer to check or re-check the installation? Mine doesn't rattle at all. However, I do have the back net also installed, which might be holding it a little tighter. The dealer installed everything. The security cover works fine. Sorry I'm only commenting on the obvious--I waited to see if somebody else had anything more useful to say. Personally, I wouldn't choose either of your alternatives.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:34 PM   #12574
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Ask the dealer to check or re-check the installation? Mine doesn't rattle at all. However, I do have the back net also installed, which might be holding it a little tighter. The dealer installed everything. The security cover works fine. Sorry I'm only commenting on the obvious--I waited to see if somebody else had anything more useful to say. Personally, I wouldn't choose either of your alternatives.
i installed it myself. there are not anchor points at the top of the seat protector other than 2 tiny pieces of velcro. i just thought of something i might have missed in the instructions, but would be pretty stupid if you ask me. there are rubber chords on the top of all the protectors, are they supposed to loop around the head rests?
EDIT: yup, missed that step, whoops! gonna go try that and see how it looks. i think it will look pretty tacky, i might try adding more velcro first

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Old 06-11-2012, 01:01 AM   #12575
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Installed the roof spoiler tonight and the front underspoilers last night. Underspoilers were easy; the roof spoiler was more work but went pretty smoothly except for my 12 mm drill bit catching on the sheet metal and mangling the holes a bit. I was able to clean up the holes without too much trouble though and the rest was fine. I took pictures of the install since someone was asking for that; I'll post them tomorrow probably. Super happy with the way the car looks now.
Here's my roof spoiler install thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2366472
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