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Old 08-02-2012, 02:59 PM   #1
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Default Buying ap. what stage do i run with my mods?

Hey guys, I'm new to the Cobb accessport and have been reading around and have decided that it is the most practical way for me to tune my 06 wrx. My questions are, what stage should I be running once I flash, and will I be able to find maps for those mods without getting a protune? Like I said I'm new to this so any help is appreciated.
My mods include:

Vf 39 or 43 (haven't been able to check because I can't see the serial plate on the turbo.

Perrin short ram

Cobb full exhaust

Huge tmic (don't know the brand)

Headers

Sti pink injectors (I think)

And a fuel pump will be added.

I don't 100% know about every single one of the mods because I bought the car with alot of them already done.

I want to run a conservative tune on pump gas as well because the car is my daily.

Thanks
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:53 PM   #2
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I would say you would be beyond Stage 2 and I'm not sure if you'll get the map you need in the AP alone.

I would suggest getting a pro tune (etune or something) done specifically on your car since it would yield the best results (for both power and reliability). Some places offer this with the purchase of the AP from them. You might want to look into this I have also seen them as low a $150 (for e-tunning).
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:11 PM   #3
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I'd start with an Stage 3 OTS from cobb http://www.cobbtuning.com/AccessPORT...tock-SF-Intake

or a better plan would be an actual tune made for your car by a repetable tuner/shop
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:50 PM   #4
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So if I'm reading right, are you suggesting I shouldn't even get an ap? Would something else be cheaper and more effective? Or could I simply run stage 2 and still see gains but just not as much untill I get a protune? I was also wondering if economy mode would be possible for me as well?
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:40 AM   #5
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It all depends on what you are looking for. The older models are easier to OS Tune (Open source) based on my experiences with my '11 from my '06. Meaning you dont need an AP to get a pro tune.

With that said it depends on what you are looking to do.

If you just want to get a tune and not looking for multiple maps (race map, E85, economy map, etc) and not looking to add more upgrades to your car every few month/year go with an OS tune. If you think you will have to retune every few months and want multiple maps get the AP.

You should check your local forums and find out who is a reputable tuner in your area and contact them. Tell them what you are looking to do with your car and I am sure they will tell you what your best options are.

Either way you go I would consider talking to your local tuner before you buy anything.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:41 AM   #6
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If you just run Stg 2 without a tune you have possibilities of boost creep and could really damage your engine - I wouldn't ever recommend this but I know there are people out there doing this with lots of miles and no issues. I would never do it.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:30 AM   #7
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Hey guys, I'm new to the Cobb accessport and have been reading around and have decided that it is the most practical way for me to tune my 06 wrx. My questions are, what stage should I be running once I flash, and will I be able to find maps for those mods without getting a protune? Like I said I'm new to this so any help is appreciated.
My mods include:

Vf 39 or 43 (haven't been able to check because I can't see the serial plate on the turbo.

Perrin short ram

Cobb full exhaust

Huge tmic (don't know the brand)

Headers

Sti pink injectors (I think)

And a fuel pump will be added.

I don't 100% know about every single one of the mods because I bought the car with alot of them already done.

I want to run a conservative tune on pump gas as well because the car is my daily.

Thanks
Hi there. We don't have a map that specifically cover those mods for an 06 WRX. We do have a stage 3 VF39 map, but it is for the stock injectors and stock or Cobb SF intake. I would not recommend running that map with your set up unless you find that the turbo is a VF39, the injectors are stock and you can switch to the Cobb SF or stock intake.

Best thing to do is to take the car to a Subaru tuning shop so they can give the car a once-over and determine exactly what mods you have. A custom tune would be your best bet. Any shop that tunes with our software can create a custom map (or multiple maps) for the AccessPORT and your car.

The following is a list of AccessPORT Subaru protuners. These would be primarily shops that could do a custom tune on a dyno:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/Domestic-P...754.htm#Subaru

The following is a list of AccessPORT Subaru e-tuners. E-tuners are those that are willing to tune the car via email. They send you a base tune, you data log and send them the logs, and they make tweaks to the map, you data log again, etc.
http://www.cobbtuning.com/Domestic-P...754.htm#Subaru

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Old 08-03-2012, 12:16 PM   #8
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Stock ECU pro-tune
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:31 PM   #9
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tried doing a search with no results. i live in louisville ky. and am having trouble finding a reputable tuner around here. any one know of a place in KY, IN, or OH?
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:42 PM   #10
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tried doing a search with no results. i live in louisville ky. and am having trouble finding a reputable tuner around here. any one know of a place in KY, IN, or OH?
Did you search here or your local forum? Your local forum will most likely have some sort of info for you.

If you don't have a local tuner in your area your best bet is probably to get a etune done.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:45 PM   #11
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i did a search on here i just now found a local forum and im in the process of searching on there. im still new to this whole tuning thing and im learning and doing tons of research. what is an etune and how does it work?
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:56 PM   #12
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The following is a list of AccessPORT Subaru e-tuners. E-tuners are those that are willing to tune the car via email. They send you a base tune, you data log and send them the logs, and they make tweaks to the map, you data log again, etc.
http://www.cobbtuning.com/Domestic-P...754.htm#Subaru

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Old 08-03-2012, 05:17 PM   #13
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Cool thanks for the info. I just read that to but didn't put it together.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:45 AM   #14
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I put up the wrong link for e-tuners - here's the right one:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/e-Tuners-s/70747.htm

Basically, e-tuning is any tuner tuning your car remotely (i.e. without them being there with your car). So, this requires that you reflash a base map that they send you, you data log with the AccessPORT, send those logs to the tuner, they look them over and then make tweaks to your map, you reflash that new revised map, and the process repeats. If you go with an e-tuner, make sure you establish up front how many revisions they are willing to do until finished and whether or not they will do futher tweaks down the road if something comes up (and at what cost, if any).

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