BRZ vs FRS whats the difference?

Masterauto · 08-11-2012, 04:36 PM

http://blog.perrinperformance.com/br...he-difference/

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chanomatik · 08-13-2012, 02:39 AM

Just read the whole article. Very nice write up by Jeff! "Space Invaders or Carbon Fiber?" hahaha

Very subtle differences that I would've never known about otherwise since I don't associate (yet) with any FR-S owners.

Celery GT-5 · 08-13-2012, 10:46 PM

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The steering wheels are the same except the center of the FR-S has some additional fake stitching around the Air Bag area. This small detail gives the FR-S an edge over the BRZ because it helps brake up the plain-ish Subaru wheel.

riiiiight

chanomatik · 08-14-2012, 11:36 AM

Well, I'm sure they didn't mean "performance-wise". I'm assuming aesthetically since they mention it helps break up the plain-ish wheel. I could dig that. If they weren't so busy hating on each other they could've taken design cues from each other. I think the FR-S has some nicer touches, especially having "FR-S" on the mats. Why no "BRZ" on the mats, Subaru?!!?! WWWWHHYYY???!!!

delongedoug · 08-14-2012, 11:37 AM

Gotta keep costs down.

Charges $28k for 200hp.

Celery GT-5 · 08-14-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chanomatik

Well, I'm sure they didn't mean "performance-wise". I'm assuming aesthetically since they mention it helps break up the plain-ish wheel. I could dig that. If they weren't so busy hating on each other they could've taken design cues from each other. I think the FR-S has some nicer touches, especially having "FR-S" on the mats. Why no "BRZ" on the mats, Subaru?!!?! WWWWHHYYY???!!!

I just think fake stitching is silly looking. Go back me up in the other brz thread..lol

chanomatik · 08-14-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by delongedoug

Gotta keep costs down.

Charges $28k for 200hp.

They could use the money they'd save from unrouting the airbox to the firewall and put it towards more BRZ badging....

spaceywilly · 08-14-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by delongedoug

Gotta keep costs down.

Charges $28k for 200hp.

You get a lot for 28k:
HID
Leather/Heated seats
Nav
Proximity Key/Push start

Start adding these features to other cars and see what the price ends up at. HP/$ isn't important to everyone

wobbletop · 08-14-2012, 12:22 PM

Nice to have the differences listed in one place, but why did they keep swapping the pictures left and right? Would have been better if they kept them consistent.

Celery GT-5 · 08-14-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spaceywilly

You get a lot for 28k:
HID
Leather/Heated seats
Nav
Proximity Key/Push start

Start adding these features to other cars and see what the price ends up at. HP/$ isn't important to everyone

NAV and HIDs are standard on the premium model which is 26k

chanomatik · 08-14-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wobbletop

Nice to have the differences listed in one place, but why did they keep swapping the pictures left and right? Would have been better if they kept them consistent.

I'm glad someone else brought this up. It was annoying having to double-check pictures to make sure I was looking at the correct car sometimes.

k04sti · 09-04-2012, 01:24 PM

I thought the sways and there were other suspension differences too? correct me if i'm wrong

dwx · 09-04-2012, 01:50 PM

Just the springs everything else is identical even the shock valving.

k04sti · 09-04-2012, 04:38 PM

oh okay thanks for clearing that up I guess the article I read must have been wrong

luvless2620 · 09-25-2012, 03:05 AM

Wow. I didn't realize they differed from one another so much in the cosmetic department. Good to know nonetheless.

vikR32 · 09-26-2012, 09:41 PM

I feel the BRZ is much nicer looking and more well equipped it's a no brainer for the slight price difference.

OrbitalEllipses · 09-26-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vikR32

I feel the BRZ is much nicer looking and more well equipped it's a no brainer for the slight price difference.

Glad I picked up a Limited. 14lbs for heated seats/mirrors, courtesy lights (light should have been there anyway...), leather/Alcantara, stupid spoiler, fogs...etc..

Though the fogs are ****ing useless given how low the car is. At least now I can feel good about a JPM Coachworks Alcantara® steering wheel matching my interior.

30 psi · 10-01-2012, 07:39 AM

Nice read!

I have seen the BRZ up close on the road about 5 times in diff colors and trim levels - Limited hands down!

I have not seen the FR-S on the road though so I can't comment on it.

If I wasn't anxiously waiting the new WRX STI to come out I would actualy get a limited in BLK. If new WRX STI isn't what I hope it is maybe the BRZ might still find it's way into my driveway.... Only time will tell.

Celery GT-5 · 10-01-2012, 09:26 AM

yeah I sat in a premium the other day, the limited is much nicer

chanomatik · 10-01-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Glad I picked up a Limited. 14lbs for heated seats/mirrors, courtesy lights (light should have been there anyway...), leather/Alcantara, stupid spoiler, fogs...etc..

Though the fogs are ****ing useless given how low the car is. At least now I can feel good about a JPM Coachworks Alcantara® steering wheel matching my interior.

I would've believed this, but when kayetealynn (on here) got her BRZ Limited we went driving that night and it wasn't until we were done that I realized she had been driving around with only her fogs and DRL's on the whole night. We were on the highway and everything. We passed plenty of policemen.

I only noticed because I asked her to use her headlight levelers on the wall and they weren't moving. I thought it was busted until I switched the headlights ON.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-01-2012, 04:18 PM

I can't really tell a difference between fogs on/off with the headlights on.

chanomatik · 10-01-2012, 05:32 PM

With headlights on, no you won't. They aren't like the pre-2004 Impreza that had huge, significant fog lights. If you turn off your headlights, though, and the roads aren't crappy and it's not raining (or... foggy) then you'll see what I mean.

People will definitely see you, though, which is all that really matters for those things. I would like to look into the reverse fog light for the BRZ.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-01-2012, 05:34 PM

Loved my bugeye's fog lights. Why would I have my headlights off in the fog or rain...? Fog lights are supposed to supplement headlights aren't they?

chanomatik · 10-01-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Loved my bugeye's fog lights. Why would I have my headlights off in the fog or rain...? Fog lights are supposed to supplement headlights aren't they?

What? I'm confused. I was saying that the fog lights do suck, BUT, if it's not raining, snowing, foggy, etc. then you can drive around with them on. Of course I live in the city, so not sure how they'd do in the country. We didn't go out anywhere that didn't have streetlights.

I pick up my BRZ this week (finally), so I'll try it out myself and get back to you.

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08-13-2012, 02:39 AM	#2
chanomatik NASIOC Supporter Member#: 159474 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: East Anchorage (yuck!) Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Ltd 6MT CBS The Epic One	Just read the whole article. Very nice write up by Jeff! "Space Invaders or Carbon Fiber?" hahaha Very subtle differences that I would've never known about otherwise since I don't associate (yet) with any FR-S owners.

08-14-2012, 11:36 AM	#4
chanomatik NASIOC Supporter Member#: 159474 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: East Anchorage (yuck!) Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Ltd 6MT CBS The Epic One	Well, I'm sure they didn't mean "performance-wise". I'm assuming aesthetically since they mention it helps break up the plain-ish wheel. I could dig that. If they weren't so busy hating on each other they could've taken design cues from each other. I think the FR-S has some nicer touches, especially having "FR-S" on the mats. Why no "BRZ" on the mats, Subaru?!!?! WWWWHHYYY???!!!

08-14-2012, 11:37 AM	#5
delongedoug Scooby Specialist Member#: 124113 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: To infinity Vehicle: and beyond!	Gotta keep costs down. Charges $28k for 200hp.

08-14-2012, 12:22 PM	#9
wobbletop Scooby Specialist Member#: 11652 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Ontario, Canada Vehicle: '11 STI 5dr Red '70 Porsche 914/6	Nice to have the differences listed in one place, but why did they keep swapping the pictures left and right? Would have been better if they kept them consistent.

09-04-2012, 01:24 PM	#12
k04sti Scooby Specialist Member#: 171773 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: tampa, fl Vehicle: 04 wrx sti jbp dom 3 xtr w meth!	I thought the sways and there were other suspension differences too? correct me if i'm wrong

09-04-2012, 01:50 PM	#13
dwx Scooby Guru Member#: 8343 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Atlanta, GA Vehicle: 2005 2012 Jeep 2013 DGM BRZ	Just the springs everything else is identical even the shock valving.

09-04-2012, 04:38 PM	#14
k04sti Scooby Specialist Member#: 171773 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: tampa, fl Vehicle: 04 wrx sti jbp dom 3 xtr w meth!	oh okay thanks for clearing that up I guess the article I read must have been wrong

09-25-2012, 03:05 AM	#15
luvless2620 Scooby Specialist Member#: 190566 Join Date: Sep 2008	Wow. I didn't realize they differed from one another so much in the cosmetic department. Good to know nonetheless.

09-26-2012, 09:41 PM	#16
vikR32 Scooby Newbie Member#: 333389 Join Date: Sep 2012	I feel the BRZ is much nicer looking and more well equipped it's a no brainer for the slight price difference.

10-01-2012, 07:39 AM	#18
30 psi Scooby Specialist Member#: 152599 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: In my STI Vehicle: 04 STI - SQC#292 Java Black Pearl	Nice read! I have seen the BRZ up close on the road about 5 times in diff colors and trim levels - Limited hands down! I have not seen the FR-S on the road though so I can't comment on it. If I wasn't anxiously waiting the new WRX STI to come out I would actualy get a limited in BLK. If new WRX STI isn't what I hope it is maybe the BRZ might still find it's way into my driveway.... Only time will tell.

10-01-2012, 09:26 AM	#19
Celery GT-5 Scooby Guru Member#: 98210 Join Date: Oct 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: 2011 SWP WRX 5 Door TorquedPerformance Stage2	yeah I sat in a premium the other day, the limited is much nicer

10-01-2012, 04:18 PM	#21
OrbitalEllipses Scooby Specialist Member#: 178811 Join Date: Apr 2008 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MoCo Vehicle: 2013 WRB BRZ :banana:	I can't really tell a difference between fogs on/off with the headlights on.

10-01-2012, 05:32 PM	#22
chanomatik NASIOC Supporter Member#: 159474 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: East Anchorage (yuck!) Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Ltd 6MT CBS The Epic One	With headlights on, no you won't. They aren't like the pre-2004 Impreza that had huge, significant fog lights. If you turn off your headlights, though, and the roads aren't crappy and it's not raining (or... foggy) then you'll see what I mean. People will definitely see you, though, which is all that really matters for those things. I would like to look into the reverse fog light for the BRZ.

10-01-2012, 05:34 PM	#23
OrbitalEllipses Scooby Specialist Member#: 178811 Join Date: Apr 2008 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MoCo Vehicle: 2013 WRB BRZ :banana:	Loved my bugeye's fog lights. Why would I have my headlights off in the fog or rain...? Fog lights are supposed to supplement headlights aren't they?