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Old 08-21-2012, 10:06 PM   #4626
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There are a ton at that price. I ranted about one a few weeks back in fact.
Will look for that when I return to pc. Mobile app search no bueno.
I just learned that you post a lot in OT. Three clicks to load more posts and still on today.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:08 PM   #4627
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Yeah I'm on a mobile or would have linked you to results.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:10 PM   #4628
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:37 PM   #4629
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Well, not all 50 people drink coffee, but many would drink more than 1 cup per day, so I figure ~50 cups per day (especially once you get really good coffee in there). Imo, you need a commercial rated machine, which will cost over $1k.

This would be the top choice, and way above your stated budget, but...it will outlast and outperform other options. Yes, it's $2700 or something, but it's a beast, and would likely require very little care and maintainance for some time.

http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/...monzasuperauto

A more typical option would be this:

http://www.wholelattelove.com/Saeco/...ar.cfm?conid=7

And I can see if Astra can give me a deal for you, but I think theirs are significantly more than the above two options. I will ask tomorrow.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:50 PM   #4630
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We used saecos at my office. Quite mediocre but better than nothing or stale coffee from the morning.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:59 PM   #4631
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We used saecos at my office. Quite mediocre but better than nothing or stale coffee from the morning.
Well, a large part of that is the coffee, and adjustment of the machine's grind.

I hear jura's are better, but he'd have to talk to wholelattelove, chris coffee, or 1st-line about them.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:04 PM   #4632
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Well, a large part of that is the coffee, and adjustment of the machine's grind.

I hear jura's are better, but he'd have to talk to wholelattelove, chris coffee, or 1st-line about them.
probably. this is back in the day when i just had a passing taste for coffee so cant say the beans were a factor (used the same ones for the brew kind). The adjustment was a pain. fiddling with it would invite death by the office admin who had seen enough of those machines to know what setting works for the 50 cups a day it would have to brew.

and god forbid you put in anything but bottle tap water.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:25 PM   #4633
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A machine can only be as good as the coffee in the hopper. And people rarely regulate the grind, which is pretty damn important.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:28 PM   #4634
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A machine can only be as good as the coffee in the hopper. And people rarely regulate the grind, which is pretty damn important.
which is true, but I was comping it to the regular brewed coffee, so relatively speaking.

As for the grind, I was told you could go better, if you were happy with the machine breaking down every other month. As it stood it was a once a year maintenance. I fuxored it up my first month when I tampered with the grind setting..

I think my point was more to the effect of more commercial is better if you are doing the 50 cups a day.

BUT then again I think I was the only person in the office who thought the Saeco average. Everyone else loved it.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:40 PM   #4635
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I agree there. And yeah, a tight grind would increase the wear and tear for sure.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:42 PM   #4636
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Anyone here like Ca phe sua da?



Vietnamese ice coffee with bubbles.

Super strong espresso like front side with a sweat end that balances it out.

Soooooo goooooood.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:10 AM   #4637
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Extreme rare occasions too sweet for me.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:25 AM   #4638
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Extreme rare occasions too sweet for me.
If its too sweet it's being made wrong. I like black coffee and find the legit Vietnamese coffee to be way stronger with a nice sweet backside.

The people I run across that don't like it dislike how strong it is.

Although I do have to say, the last year or two all the Vietnamese places like Cafes and deli shops have started to make them too sweet. Trying to appeal to the Americans I guess.

Same for star bucks. Latte is now steamed milk with a touch of coffee.

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Old 08-22-2012, 05:33 AM   #4639
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On woot right now

Handpresso Wild Hand-Pump Portable Espresso Maker

http://woot.com/

Thought it would be funny/relevant to this thread

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Old 08-22-2012, 12:19 PM   #4640
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Well, not all 50 people drink coffee, but many would drink more than 1 cup per day, so I figure ~50 cups per day (especially once you get really good coffee in there). Imo, you need a commercial rated machine, which will cost over $1k.

This would be the top choice, and way above your stated budget, but...it will outlast and outperform other options. Yes, it's $2700 or something, but it's a beast, and would likely require very little care and maintainance for some time.

http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/...monzasuperauto

A more typical option would be this:

http://www.wholelattelove.com/Saeco/...ar.cfm?conid=7

And I can see if Astra can give me a deal for you, but I think theirs are significantly more than the above two options. I will ask tomorrow.
Thanks Poison. There are 50 coffee drinking engineers on the floor, more like 250 people. I will check out the options. I'm thinking I will ease them into this with a grinder purchase and some good beans.

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As for the grind, I was told you could go better, if you were happy with the machine breaking down every other month. As it stood it was a once a year maintenance. .....
I think my point was more to the effect of more commercial is better if you are doing the 50 cups a day.
Good info. This needs to be maintenance free.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:24 PM   #4641
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Anyone here like Ca phe sua da?

Vietnamese ice coffee with bubbles.

Super strong espresso like front side with a sweat end that balances it out.

Soooooo goooooood.
The debate I face every morning when I want Coffee.

It's summer, I'll go cold brew iced coffee or cafe su da
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:26 PM   #4642
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How will you brew it if you buy a grinder and beans? If you just want a drip option, there are bunn and fetco options that would do the job for you.
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How will you brew it if you buy a grinder and beans? If you just want a drip option, there are bunn and fetco options that would do the job for you.
for 50 people at 250 cups a day this would be my choice. You cannot run an espresso machine that hard unless it super duper commercial and has regular upkeep and maintenance.

http://www.wholelattelove.com/commercial.cfm?cid=17

and I'll let poison recommend the grinders.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #4644
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for 50 people at 250 cups a day this would be my choice. You cannot run an espresso machine that hard unless it super duper commercial and has regular upkeep and maintenance.

http://www.wholelattelove.com/commercial.cfm?cid=17

and I'll let poison recommend the grinders.
The super monza at chris coffee could easily do that, as it's used by mcdonalds in europe. It's a steal at $2700.

The fetco single brewer is $1600+. It's a pretty kick ass unit, which top cafes use, and you'd still need to buy a grinder, so that closes the par between the fetco and monza.

As for grinders, you'll need a commercial grinder. A home grinder won't cut it. A bunn is $600-800, a ditting is over $1k. Or this:

http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/...portiongrinder
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:44 PM   #4645
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The astra retails for $7k. I could get a discount, but won't bother asking as it's still way beyond, haha.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:20 PM   #4646
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moving from a blade grinder to a conical burr (capresso infinity) has made a HUGE difference in my coffee.

for my press, i'm use a lot less beans and getting a much better cup. espresso...no comparison, it's world better. honestly, when my old burr grinder broke (just a cheap cuisinart) i basically stopped using my espresso machine because using the blade grinder to try to make an espresso grind was futile.

back to pulling pretty shots
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:22 PM   #4647
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moving from a blade grinder to a conical burr (capresso infinity) has made a HUGE difference in my coffee.

for my press, i'm use a lot less beans and getting a much better cup. espresso...no comparison, it's world better. honestly, when my old burr grinder broke (just a cheap cuisinart) i basically stopped using my espresso machine because using the blade grinder to try to make an espresso grind was futile.

back to pulling pretty shots
If you're doing espresso, you should consider upgrading to a dedicated espresso grinder at some point. Like the new cunill tranquilo.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:25 PM   #4648
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I have been practicing doing stuff like this:


...and I suck

But I'm getting better!
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:55 AM   #4649
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Nate - I was thinking of putting another order together. Are you running any coupons?
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:33 PM   #4650
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To poison and other more "expert" than I. Recently (9 days ago) moved to Alabama from Ohio (ya, both are sucky, but the wife keeps getting incredible offers from universities to do research) and I have started getting odd patterns in my puck and the coffee tastes different. Does this look like channeling to you?


And, if so, how do I fix it? Finer grind? Coarser grind? Darker roast? Lighter roast?

To remind, I am roasting in basically an air-popper and grinding with a commercial Rancilio MD-50 and brewing with the cheapest Gaggia from WholeLatteLove.
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