The E85 Army Thread - Page 250

smeerone · 08-30-2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squidz

Joined the E85 Army finally last weekend. Finally got my project up and running.

She made 426WHP/417WTQ and we ran out of injector. I'll get the dyno plot up this weekend when i get some time to scan it into the puter.

Congrats!

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wrxsubiemod · 08-30-2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squidz

Joined the E85 Army finally last weekend. Finally got my project up and running.

She made 426WHP/417WTQ and we ran out of injector. I'll get the dyno plot up this weekend when i get some time to scan it into the puter.

Awesome

amalgrover · 08-30-2012, 07:22 PM

welcome to the club Squidz...what are the details on your setup?

Squidz · 08-30-2012, 09:08 PM

Trying to get the build thread together...here's the cliff notes:

EJ25 forged pistons/rods (9.2:1 compression)
USDM EJ20 heads/ CNC combustion chambers/Supertech springs/STi cams
Brand new 8cm FP HTA71 turbocharger (first one ever built...car was a test mule)
Internal WG
84mm FP Inlet
ETS Top-mount intercooler
IDE 1000 cc
DW 300 LPH fuel pump
GT Spec UEL Header
Cobb Tuned

amalgrover · 08-30-2012, 09:20 PM

very nice!

are you planning to upgrade the fuel system or are you going to let it ride as is for now?

07wrx84 · 08-30-2012, 09:27 PM

Way nice bro!

sackytar · 08-30-2012, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squidz

Trying to get the build thread together...here's the cliff notes:

EJ25 forged pistons/rods (9.2:1 compression)
USDM EJ20 heads/ CNC combustion chambers/Supertech springs/STi cams
Brand new 8cm FP HTA71 turbocharger (first one ever built...car was a test mule)
Internal WG
84mm FP Inlet
ETS Top-mount intercooler
IDE 1000 cc
DW 300 LPH fuel pump
GT Spec UEL Header
Cobb Tuned

Get this thing tuned I wanna see numbers and spool time.
Plan on Doing similar build

mpen747 · 09-03-2012, 08:57 PM

do i have to completely drain my gas tank if im going to get tuned for e85? or would 1/8 tank (near empty) be alright?

06rexwagon · 09-03-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mpen747

do i have to completely drain my gas tank if im going to get tuned for e85? or would 1/8 tank (near empty) be alright?

Ideally you would run a tank of e85 through on a base tune for e85 before doing any power tuning. The afr changes too much when you have a mixture. I tune a lot of cars and if I ever have to do e85 right after pump gas I drain it completely and even pull the drain plugs on the tank.

Blacksheep6 · 09-03-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpen747

do i have to completely drain my gas tank if im going to get tuned for e85? or would 1/8 tank (near empty) be alright?

To be on the safe side you can drain the tank. But you can just run it down past the empty line and you will be fine. Make sure to test the ethenal content of the E85 when you fill up.

speedyHAM · 09-03-2012, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpen747

do i have to completely drain my gas tank if im going to get tuned for e85? or would 1/8 tank (near empty) be alright?

Depends if you are always going to run straight E85 or if there will be some gas mixed in at some point.

If you want a safe tune, 1/8 tank of gas +7/8 tank of E85 would make it pretty safe for a tune as long as your tuner knows what they are doing. In the winter some areas get E70 blend to help cars start in the cold, so 1/8th tank of gas may represent your "worst case" winter blend.

Squidz · 09-05-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sackytar

Get this thing tuned I wanna see numbers and spool time.
Plan on Doing similar build

No problem...here ya go:

http://www.cobbtuning.com/Dyno-Database-s/70119.htm

It's under Cobb Plano, 2003 WRX, owner is Shawn Rizzo

xluben · 09-05-2012, 06:44 PM

http://accessecu.com/dyno/index.php?...rgb1=000000255

Squidz · 09-05-2012, 09:13 PM

^^ Thanks! How did you do that? I kept trying to use the image link and it wouldn't work.

xluben · 09-05-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Squidz

^^ Thanks! How did you do that? I kept trying to use the image link and it wouldn't work.

If you go to the link that I posted, at the bottom it says "Link to This Graph". Click that, and then paste that URL between the [IMG] tags and it magically pops up!

nate_fisher · 09-09-2012, 03:00 PM

So i thought i would post in here befor i start a thread asking were i can get e85 near englishtown nj. I am planning to go to englishtown for the sti vs evo day but i live in albany ny and it is about 180 miles each way. I see there are no e85 station in nj and i cant find any stops along the way there so i was wondering if they sell e85 at englishtown raceway? If not what would be my option filling up multiple 5 gal jugs full for the drive lol?

07wrx84 · 09-09-2012, 03:10 PM

Sounds too much outta the way!

gerryriccio · 09-10-2012, 01:40 PM

Can anyone tell me if I should be running colder plugs....I have a 2011 wrx, stock turbo running 17 psi, 1000 cc dw injectors, and a dw65c fuel pump. I've been running E85 for a couple weeks and made good power for having a stock turbo and inter cooler (306/359). I get a little hard starting when the car is already warm but runs good otherwise....any advise will help!

WRXt4cy · 09-10-2012, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryriccio

Can anyone tell me if I should be running colder plugs....I have a 2011 wrx, stock turbo running 17 psi, 1000 cc dw injectors, and a dw65c fuel pump. I've been running E85 for a couple weeks and made good power for having a stock turbo and inter cooler (306/359). I get a little hard starting when the car is already warm but runs good otherwise....any advise will help!

You should stick with stock heat range plugs with E85. I've seen some cases of high rpm spark blowout with colder plugs.

The rough hot starts have to do with hot start enrichment. For whatever reason, the stock tuning targets rich AFRs during hot starts, probably to help with evaporation or something. Gasoline doesn't mind running really rich like that but E85 will run rough and misfire. It should normally clear up after 15 seconds or so. If you are Cobb tuned, your tuner should be able to disable this enrichment, if you are Open Source tuned then it should be possible very soon as the definitions for these tables are being defined. I've been testing them on my own car.

1VIPWRX · 09-10-2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate_fisher

So i thought i would post in here befor i start a thread asking were i can get e85 near englishtown nj. I am planning to go to englishtown for the sti vs evo day but i live in albany ny and it is about 180 miles each way. I see there are no e85 station in nj and i cant find any stops along the way there so i was wondering if they sell e85 at englishtown raceway? If not what would be my option filling up multiple 5 gal jugs full for the drive lol?

e85 pump on the thruway by the suffern exit

guroove · 09-10-2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryriccio

Can anyone tell me if I should be running colder plugs....I have a 2011 wrx, stock turbo running 17 psi, 1000 cc dw injectors, and a dw65c fuel pump. I've been running E85 for a couple weeks and made good power for having a stock turbo and inter cooler (306/359). I get a little hard starting when the car is already warm but runs good otherwise....any advise will help!

No, do not run colder plugs.

07wrx84 · 09-10-2012, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guroove

No, do not run colder plugs.

Copper!

gerryriccio · 09-10-2012, 05:07 PM

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the info

Squidz · 09-10-2012, 06:45 PM

Hrmm...i'm running colder plugs in mine. Anyone had any issues with idle using colder plugs? Wonder if that could be the issue.

Makes sense though that E85 burns so much cooler you don't really need the colder plugs...

punchjamesarnol · 09-10-2012, 09:13 PM

I've been on stock iridiums for over a year, and no prob...

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amalgrover Scooby Specialist Member#: 183480 Join Date: Jun 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Valdosta, GA Vehicle: 2011 Audi A3 Quattro 2009 Forester XT	welcome to the club Squidz...what are the details on your setup?

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Squidz Scooby Guru Member#: 142608 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Cute fuzzy cuddly kitten hell. Vehicle: 2003 Sonic Yellow Marginally well behaved.	Trying to get the build thread together...here's the cliff notes: EJ25 forged pistons/rods (9.2:1 compression) USDM EJ20 heads/ CNC combustion chambers/Supertech springs/STi cams Brand new 8cm FP HTA71 turbocharger (first one ever built...car was a test mule) Internal WG 84mm FP Inlet ETS Top-mount intercooler IDE 1000 cc DW 300 LPH fuel pump GT Spec UEL Header Cobb Tuned

08-30-2012, 09:20 PM	#6230
amalgrover Scooby Specialist Member#: 183480 Join Date: Jun 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Valdosta, GA Vehicle: 2011 Audi A3 Quattro 2009 Forester XT	very nice! are you planning to upgrade the fuel system or are you going to let it ride as is for now?

08-30-2012, 09:27 PM	#6231
07wrx84 Scooby Specialist Member#: 252195 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Da-Boonies... 801 Vehicle: 07 WFC #900 @ 451awhp-404awtq	Way nice bro!

09-03-2012, 08:57 PM	#6233
mpen747 Scooby Newbie Member#: 292343 Join Date: Aug 2011 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: temecula	do i have to completely drain my gas tank if im going to get tuned for e85? or would 1/8 tank (near empty) be alright?

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xluben NASIOC Supporter Member#: 261612 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Vehicle: 2011 WRX 5 Door NF Performance Stage 1	http://accessecu.com/dyno/index.php?...rgb1=000000255

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Squidz Scooby Guru Member#: 142608 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Cute fuzzy cuddly kitten hell. Vehicle: 2003 Sonic Yellow Marginally well behaved.	^^ Thanks! How did you do that? I kept trying to use the image link and it wouldn't work.

09-09-2012, 03:00 PM	#6241
nate_fisher Scooby Newbie Member#: 270482 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: albany ny Vehicle: 2011 forester xt corn fed td06 20g 8cm	So i thought i would post in here befor i start a thread asking were i can get e85 near englishtown nj. I am planning to go to englishtown for the sti vs evo day but i live in albany ny and it is about 180 miles each way. I see there are no e85 station in nj and i cant find any stops along the way there so i was wondering if they sell e85 at englishtown raceway? If not what would be my option filling up multiple 5 gal jugs full for the drive lol?

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07wrx84 Scooby Specialist Member#: 252195 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Da-Boonies... 801 Vehicle: 07 WFC #900 @ 451awhp-404awtq	Sounds too much outta the way!

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09-10-2012, 05:07 PM	#6248
gerryriccio Scooby Newbie Member#: 273440 Join Date: Feb 2011 Vehicle: 2011 WRX Silver	Thanks everyone, I appreciate the info

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09-10-2012, 09:13 PM	#6250
punchjamesarnol Scooby Newbie Member#: 284835 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: S.D. Vehicle: 2010 450+whp DGM STI DOM2.5/e85/Phatron tuned	I've been on stock iridiums for over a year, and no prob...