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Old 09-20-2012, 03:49 PM   #26
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I grab my hoodies and fill the frig up with beer.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:49 PM   #27
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I just throw on my cheapo Sport Edition wheels with Blizzaks and do a trunk rope double-check.

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:08 AM   #28
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Sometime around November I toss the tow rope in the hatch area... Then when it snows I jack it up, swap the winter wheels and tires on, and go play in the fluffy stuff

With the beater Jeep this year... I'll probably do the same thing, but no dedicated winter rubber... Only because I've got mud and snows on there right now.

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they are SO bad its not even funny!
my friend in his stock sti couldnt get out of a flat snow-covered parking space with those, while i drove through a foot of snow like it wasnt even there on my conti-DWS.

awd doesnt matter if you dont have the right rubber
Your friend's STI had RE070s, not RE92s. RE92s are (dare I say) ALRIGHT for an ALL SEASON OE MASS MARKET tire in the snow... But they are not great.

The RE070 is a ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE essentially track tire... It's a death sentence in the snow.

Just get some winter tires, mount on the cheapest Rotas you can find, and enjoy the peace of mind of being able to panic stop in the snow

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so where do you guys usually get your winter set of wheels from? does anyone know of a place that sells steelies that would clear 04 STI calipers? what do you guys use when you swap over?
Screw getting steelies. I'm sure they're cheap cheap cheap and all, but I found wheels and tires for winter for under $500. Look used, and look far and wide for the tires if you spent too much on the wheels.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:23 AM   #29
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SO, MAIC, what do you do to prepare for winter? fluid change and switch to winter wheels/tires? shovel and kitty litter in your trunk? salt/sand bags? a winch? tow straps? tell us your secrets
I garage it and drive the VX.

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:28 AM   #30
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^what is this madness?!
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:25 PM   #31
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Just swap wheels/tires, nothing else changes, don't change ride height.

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Old 09-21-2012, 02:10 PM   #32
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I garage it and drive the VX.

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^what is this madness?!
That's an Isuzu VehiCROSS. Looks like a Trooper that dropped some acid and went to the Rodeo, and I mean that in a good way.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:57 PM   #33
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hard park the sub, and take the wifes mazdaspeed 6.... awd, and 8inch ride height...would swear it was destined to be an suv....

oh wait the cx7 is the same drivetrain and chassis
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:13 AM   #34
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That's an Isuzu VehiCROSS. Looks like a Trooper that dropped some acid and went to the Rodeo, and I mean that in a good way.
True this, but throw in some 32" Nitto Terra Grapplers, an Eaton M62 supercharger, and some TOD, and snow is little more than a wet road.

My STi could conquer anything under 5" with my winter shoes on, but she is low enough and with the lip, she would just cow-catch everything in her path. Last car I want to be a plow.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:48 AM   #35
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this would be my first year swappin to my 06 wrx rims for winter. would love to change my old allseason tires to a winter one with a lil higher sidewalls on the tires
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:28 AM   #36
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just curious, what common tires are ya'll using? I had pretty good fortune with DWS extremes during the "big snow" a few years back in hampton.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:37 AM   #37
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This is all my Subaru needs for the winter.

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:49 AM   #38
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I need ideas for an ALL SEASON TIRE
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:57 AM   #39
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Not to be an a-hole, but there is no preparing when dealing with other Virginia and Maryland drivers. You should do everything you can to help not be that one person who screws over someone else.

I'm from north New Mexico, where it does snow, sometimes a few feet. I worked in the oil field where I had to drive 250 miles on some of the crappiest roads to a well location. I've dealt with rain, snow, hail, mud, sand, and gravel. I've driven in flash floods, blizzards, 50+ mph wind, fog, and almost any other conditions known to man. You can buy snow tires, chains, kitty litter, safety packs, flares, flashlights, batteries, blankets, bottled water, and a shovel... All of that is useless and doesn't matter the the a-hole next to you doesn't know how to drive in it. The one time I got in an accident was a brand new hire for my company came around a corner too quickly, lost control and slammed into the side of me. Snow tires doesn't matter if you get rear ended by the idiot who doesn't know how to stop.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:11 AM   #40
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The WRX gets washed, waxed, and readied for sleep mode. It will get used until the first snow flies, and then stays off the roads until spring rains wash the salt away.

The Forester is another story. Mount a set of full on snows, swap the back half of the exhaust to stock FXT (summer is WRX mid, Prodrive back box), and toss on the smaller swaybar (Plow rather than over rotate). I always carry a tow strap, jumper cables and the like, but will also toss in a snow broom and sometimes a plastic grain shovel. Lighting is a supplemental set of quad FF1000s, and the HAM radio complements the CB for communication purposes. Yeah, let the snow fly!

As per the snows, WAS running Hakkapeliitta 5s, but this winter will most likely be on either Hakka Rs or X-Ice 3s. There's also set of Hakka 5 studded if it gets to the point of what it was in '009/'010

Winter Storage, with the BMWs under cover...
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:35 AM   #41
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I don't understand how some people put their Subaru away because of snow. Screw that I can't wait for empty white parking lots.

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Old 10-02-2012, 08:48 AM   #42
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I don't understand how some people put there Subaru away because of snow. Screw that I can't wait for empty white parking lots.
Yup, I bought a Subaru specifically so I could play in the snow with it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:49 AM   #43
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I don't understand how some people put there Subaru away because of snow. Screw that I can't wait for empty white parking lots.
THIS.

I will have my 2008 STI out in the snow everyday lol, I cannot wait to test it out in the snow with some winter tires! OMFG!!!

Traction control off + diff lock = FUN
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:56 AM   #44
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You guys that are so "I bought my Subaru to drive in the snow"...you need to move somewhere that actually gets a lot of snow.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:10 AM   #45
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Not to be an a-hole, but there is no preparing when dealing with other Virginia and Maryland drivers. You should do everything you can to help not be that one person who screws over someone else.

I'm from north New Mexico, where it does snow, sometimes a few feet. I worked in the oil field where I had to drive 250 miles on some of the crappiest roads to a well location. I've dealt with rain, snow, hail, mud, sand, and gravel. I've driven in flash floods, blizzards, 50+ mph wind, fog, and almost any other conditions known to man. You can buy snow tires, chains, kitty litter, safety packs, flares, flashlights, batteries, blankets, bottled water, and a shovel... All of that is useless and doesn't matter the the a-hole next to you doesn't know how to drive in it. The one time I got in an accident was a brand new hire for my company came around a corner too quickly, lost control and slammed into the side of me. Snow tires doesn't matter if you get rear ended by the idiot who doesn't know how to stop.
it does sound pretty pretentious, with some a-hole sprinkled on top. the thread wasnt based around horrible DMV drivers, but instead "what you're doing to prepare your car for the winter" (that means sans DMV drivers). i hope you dont seriously think that bad drivers are news to anyone who lives here? and if we really wanted to rattle off our creds like you did (as if we wouldnt take your word without them?), im sure this board collectively has you beat. thats the point of the thread, utilizing NASIOC's huge knowledge-base to inform, share tips, and give advice, because the people posting advice, tips, and information here have done it before. what you're contributing isnt new, or constructive, or helpful in any way -and in fact may have made someone feel they can't ask questions because "there is no preparing" and we're all so smart and perfect drivers that everyone already knows everything. dont be that guy.

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:10 AM   #46
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You guys that are so "I bought my Subaru to drive in the snow"...you need to move somewhere that actually gets a lot of snow.
I'd move to Canada
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:20 AM   #47
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That last rant aside, below are some recommendations:

There are plenty of pre-made weather safety kits online or some stores like Walmart or Lowes will start putting them out when it gets cold. However, I strongly recommend building your own.

Make sure regardless of purchasing a kit or building your own that you are familiar with the contents and that every year you review the contents to make sure everything is in working condition! Also be familiar with how everything works. Stumbling around to figure out how the flashlight works or how to apply basic first aid is a no-go.

What should a Winter Kit contain?
- Cell Phone
Note: Be sure to have a car charger and preferably an extra battery. Smart phones are known to die within a day and if your car does not start for some reason you will have no way to charge your phone. Also make sure you have all the numbers needed to contact the appropriate people i.e. AAA, Tow Company, Car Assistance Service, Roadside Assistance, Dealership, Friends, Family…etc.

- First Aid Kit!
Note: This should be a must regardless of the season! Target, Walmart, Autozone…etc all carry a bag or box form of a first aid kit. The more the better but having basic bandages, tools, and items are still a plus. Also carry prescription drugs needed! See below on what you should have in a first aid kit.

- Blankets or sleeping bags such as a space blanket.
Note: The blanket should be thick enough to keep you warm for awhile if you are unable to seek shelter or be rescued. Water proof or resistant is a plus.

- Flashlight (Preferably self charging, but plus if it’s rechargeable)
Note: Flashlight should weatherproof and be bright to help you and other people see you. It should be compact for easy carry. Preferably the flashlight should not require batteries or recharging, they make awesome survival flashlights that you can shake and charge, however if you get one that is rechargeable, that would be a plus as well. I also recommend a small compact LED flashlight which takes minimal batteries and can sometimes be VERY bright.

- Spare Batteries (Cell phone, flashlight, radio)
Note: Check batteries for charge every year. If you just keep them in your car, the heat and cold can wear a battery down and they may need replaced.

- Knife
Note: Preferably a multi use knife, but something with a 3 – 6 inch blade would also be useful.

- Basic Tool Kit
Note: This should contain basic tools used to fix or repair minor car issues.
• Set of socket and open-end wrenches
• Multi-tip screwdriver
• Wire cutters
• Knife
• Bottle opener
• Pliers


- Small Shovel
Note: Go to a military surplus store and buy a collapsible Entrenching tool or (E-Tool) to help save space.

- Non-perishable food
Note: Should be high calorie, easy open, does not require cooking. Energy bars or high calorie bars are great because they can be exposed to extreme temperatures, won’t leave you thirsty, and the bar helps activate the salivary gland and reduce your demand on emergency water supplies. They also expand in your stomach so you feel full. Be careful that you don’t over-consume them because they are so high in calories. Water is a must!

- Small Fire Extinguisher

- Warning Light, Hazard Triangles, or Flares
Note: Set these up immediately after stopping, getting stuck, or in an accident!

- Tire Gauge

- Jack and Lug Wrench

- Foam Tire Sealant or a portable compressor and plug kit
Note: Do not rely solely on your spare. Trying to change a tire in a blizzard or the snow is next to impossible.

- Jumper cables or portable battery booster

- Gloves, hand cleaner, and clean rags

- $20 in small bills and change

- Pen and pad of paper

- Matches

- Sack of sand or kitty litter

- Tow Rope

- Windshield Scraper

- Compass and road maps

- Reflective vest

- Water resistant shoes/boots

- Pair of dry clothes.

- Small waterproof bag
Note: This is just in case you need to walk a small distance to reach shelter or to contact someone. A small ziplock bag is also useful to keep your cell phone, matches, and anything else needed dry.

- Snow Chains

- Radio
Note: There are hand crank radios that are awesome in survival situations that do not require batteries. Just be sure to have a small radio to keep up with weather conditions or emergency information.

- Help Sign



First Aid Kit:
• Sterile adhesive bandages (assorted sizes)
• Gauze pads (2- and 3-inch)
• Triangular bandages
• Hypoallergenic adhesive tape
• Sterile roller bandages (2- and 3- inch)
• Scissors
• Tweezers
• Needle
• Safety razor blade
• Safety pins (assorted sizes)
• Snake bite kit
• Cold pack
• Bar of soap
• Moist towelettes
• Non-breakable thermometer
• Antiseptic spray
• Latex gloves
• Petroleum jelly or other lubricant
• Tongue blades and wooden applicator sticks
• Aspirin and non-aspirin pain reliever
• Antacid
• Laxative
• Eye wash
• Rubbing alcohol
• Antiseptic or hydrogen peroxide
• Anti-diarrhea medication
• Emetic (to induce vomiting)

Additional Notes and Tips:
- Make sure people know your timetable and primary/alternate routes, and any detours along the way. Also call immediately with any changes in schedules and routes, or if an accident happens it is very important to contact the appropriate people immediately in case of lost reception or battery.
- Make sure that you can access the first aid kit and important items from inside your vehicle. It’s no use if you’re rear ended and it’s in your trunk.
- Keep your gas tank near full to avoid ice in the tank and fuel lines.
- Try not to travel alone, especially in unfamiliar places.
- Fully check and winterize your vehicle well before the winter season begins. Be sure the tread on your tires is good enough to last throughout the entire season. Install chains on the tires if necessary.

Finally, NO kit can fully prepare you for a winter driving or the worst case scenario. Because preparation is the key, make sure that you think about the individuals you will be protecting in your car or truck. Each may have their own needs. It is a better idea to pack extra of the supplies needed than to be stranded without the proper equipment.

Be safe!

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:36 AM   #48
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^you'd think he's done this once or twice before. coincidentally these are a lot of the things which are useful in a zombie apocalypse.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:48 AM   #49
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^you'd think he's done this once or twice before. coincidentally these are a lot of the things which are useful in a zombie apocalypse.
A lot of this is common sense from the days gone by. However it really depends on WHERE and HOW FAR you will be driving in weather conditions. For those of you who are driving in relatively urban areas, most of the "Survival" gear is probably not needed, sans proper clothing and a blanket/shovel. Even for PLAYING in parking lots rather than DRIVING on back/unpaved/unplowed roads. In most cases you can walk to a near by house, or someone will likely be on the road soon after you.

However, if you're going to venture in to the deep dark snow by yourself, or take long road tips through desolate areas or long stretches of barren highway, then having the proper gear is essential. In that sense, White_Shadow has done a tidy job of a list of things to consider. Being a person who frequently travels to the snow/ice/slurry to compete in winter rally, this is common practice. The Foz lives with the typical first aid kit, flash light, etc year round anyway. Even thought I still claim the boy scouts were started by a bunch of bastard chiropractors, it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

As to putting the WRX away for winter: It's nice to have a NICE car that's never seen salt, that it easy to deal with due to the LACK of rust underneath it. Anyone who has spent any considerable amount of time in salt country (I spent 5 years in upstate NY during school) knows exactly what I'm talking about. So yes, the AWD BMWs and the WRX all get to take naps in the winter, while the Forester gets to go play. And when it comes down to it, the Forester is almost as fast as the WRX anyway. It's not like I'm going slumming.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:56 AM   #50
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Winter is pretty lame in HR. I miss the mountains in Colorado.
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