300+hp trap speeds?! - Page 2

IVIattIVIan · 10-03-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 05bluesti

its cause you are slow, you should have gotten an sti, then youd be fast like everyone else, you are such a noob

A kick for you in the starfish sir!!!

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05bluesti · 10-03-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IVIattIVIan

A kick for you in the starfish sir!!!

thank you, may i have another?

IVIattIVIan · 10-03-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 05bluesti

thank you, may i have another?

Coming atcha!!!

ByeBye4g63t · 10-03-2012, 05:36 PM

I was wondering the same as OP. My car put down 335/375 on a mustang dyno, 110 degrees. Before wcf it put down 255/290, that has me worried that I wont trap over 106ish. Hopefully the cooler weather bumps up the power?

FCmaniac · 10-03-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ByeBye4g63t

I was wondering the same as OP. My car put down 335/375 on a mustang dyno, 110 degrees. Before wcf it put down 255/290, that has me worried that I wont trap over 106ish. Hopefully the cooler weather bumps up the power?

All other things equal, the cooler the temp, the more the powah. Just log to make sure your IDC isn't too high and you're still safe.

Fierysun · 10-03-2012, 07:08 PM

OP, why don't you post your full setup as well as dyno graph? Also, at what RPM are you shifting at?

IVIattIVIan · 10-03-2012, 11:16 PM

Full car setup!

Grimmspeed catless uppipe
Tial 38mm EWG
vf39
FiveO 850cc injectors
Fmic
Aem cai
Invidia q300 tbe
255walbro fuel pump
1° cooler spark plugs
All on 91 pump gas

Fierysun · 10-04-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by IVIattIVIan

Full car setup!

Grimmspeed catless uppipe
Tial 38mm EWG
vf39
FiveO 850cc injectors
Fmic
Aem cai
Invidia q300 tbe
255walbro fuel pump
1° cooler spark plugs
All on 91 pump gas

You're probably seeing around 250whp on a 2.0L with that setup. Honestly, you didn't need 850cc, EWG, FMIC or 1 step cooler plugs with a Vf39.

You would have made around the same power with 650cc, IWG, stock heat range plugs, and an STI TMIC.

CmrnDrgn · 10-04-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fierysun

You're probably seeing around 250whp on a 2.0L with that setup. Honestly, you didn't need 850cc, EWG, FMIC or 1 step cooler plugs with a Vf39.

You would have made around the same power with 650cc, IWG, stock heat range plugs, and an STI TMIC.

Agreed, I run a vf-39 on the 2.0 with 650cc dws injectors, sti top mount, aem intake, full catless exhaust and walbro pump and made 300hp/270-trq. Those supporting mods are over the top. While you have them you should step up the turbo size and get re-tuned

You're probably seeing that low of a trap speed as a combo of a slow launch and/or the dyno reading high.

wrxlaunch · 10-04-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CmrnDrgn

Agreed, I run a vf-39 on the 2.0 with 650cc dws injectors, sti top mount, aem intake, full catless exhaust and walbro pump and made 300hp/270-trq. Those supporting mods are over the top. While you have them you should step up the turbo size and get re-tuned

You're probably seeing that low of a trap speed as a combo of a slow launch and/or the dyno reading high.

What's your track time and trap?

IVIattIVIan · 10-04-2012, 09:17 AM

I did the mods with plan of a 20g in the near future. 13.2 @102 mph

Z0rr0 · 10-04-2012, 12:55 PM

Matt, on that same dyno, i was @ 468 with CF, and trapped 119.
12.12 @ 119, IIRC. crappy launch, crappy tires, spinning the rear thru 2nd.

IVIattIVIan · 10-04-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0

Matt, on that same dyno, i was @ 468 with CF, and trapped 119.
12.12 @ 119, IIRC. crappy launch, crappy tires, spinning the rear thru 2nd.

Then ppl will probably say your not making close to 468......

mtarr07 · 10-04-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0

Matt, on that same dyno, i was @ 468 with CF, and trapped 119.
12.12 @ 119, IIRC. crappy launch, crappy tires, spinning the rear thru 2nd.

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Originally Posted by IVIattIVIan

Then ppl will probably say your not making close to 468......

This. There have been stock turbo STI's and 2009+ wrx's trapping 116-117mph. You're probably making over 100 less whp than that dyno is suggesting.

Fierysun · 10-04-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0

Matt, on that same dyno, i was @ 468 with CF, and trapped 119.
12.12 @ 119, IIRC. crappy launch, crappy tires, spinning the rear thru 2nd.

That Correction Factor grossy inflat the numbers. I would disregard it completely and look at the uncorrected #'s as what you are potentially making.

In addition, why is the tune cut around 6.7K? I would have it tuned to 7k-7.1K.

IVIattIVIan · 10-04-2012, 05:15 PM

What Is the point of correction factor then.........?

IVIattIVIan · 10-04-2012, 05:17 PM

Like saying bhp versus whp!?

bilt2run · 10-04-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IVIattIVIan

What Is the point of correction factor then.........?

Correction factors on dynos are calibrated for Naturally aspirated cars

cronic · 10-04-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IVIattIVIan

What Is the point of correction factor then.........?

It makes your e-penis bigger, until you go to the track.

IVIattIVIan · 10-04-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cronic

It makes your e-penis bigger, until you go to the track.

HHahaha apparently!!!

Element Tuning · 10-05-2012, 10:58 AM

Sounds like you're at elevation so the dyno correction factor for a turbocharged car is not accurate as someone else has mentioned. Based on that other correction factor I see you're likely making 255 whp.

With that said every dyno is different. On the a relatively low reading dynajet I had a customer with 290 whp pump gas hit 110 (stock turbo sti, Hydra EMS,TBE, FMIC) and my car went 112 mph with 309 whp pump gas (same mods). Other dynos in our area need 335-340 whp to hit 110-112 mph.

Now you know so adjust your HP goals to get the trap speeds you want.

ScoobyDoo69er · 10-05-2012, 12:01 PM

My contribution.

284whp 2003 Blobeye STi Type UK - So the 2.0litre model.

12.1 @ 113mph

Graph and video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UliHkXPZ24E

10-04-2012, 12:55 PM	#37
Z0rr0 Scooby Specialist Member#: 23123 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Gilbert, AZ Vehicle: 05 Legacy GT 13 Scion FR-S	Matt, on that same dyno, i was @ 468 with CF, and trapped 119. 12.12 @ 119, IIRC. crappy launch, crappy tires, spinning the rear thru 2nd. Last edited by Z0rr0; 10-04-2012 at 12:59 PM. Reason: dyno sheet

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10-03-2012, 05:36 PM	#29
ByeBye4g63t Scooby Newbie Member#: 290896 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Phoenix, Az Vehicle: 2004 STi, FOR SALE PSM	I was wondering the same as OP. My car put down 335/375 on a mustang dyno, 110 degrees. Before wcf it put down 255/290, that has me worried that I wont trap over 106ish. Hopefully the cooler weather bumps up the power?

10-03-2012, 07:08 PM	#31
Fierysun Scooby Specialist Member#: 82745 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: So Cal Vehicle: 2005 Subaru STI 2003 WRX Wagon	OP, why don't you post your full setup as well as dyno graph? Also, at what RPM are you shifting at?

10-03-2012, 11:16 PM	#32
IVIattIVIan Scooby Specialist Member#: 295602 Join Date: Sep 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: In a glass case of Emotion	Full car setup! Grimmspeed catless uppipe Tial 38mm EWG vf39 FiveO 850cc injectors Fmic Aem cai Invidia q300 tbe 255walbro fuel pump 1° cooler spark plugs All on 91 pump gas

10-04-2012, 09:17 AM	#36
IVIattIVIan Scooby Specialist Member#: 295602 Join Date: Sep 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: In a glass case of Emotion	I did the mods with plan of a 20g in the near future. 13.2 @102 mph

10-04-2012, 05:15 PM	#41
IVIattIVIan Scooby Specialist Member#: 295602 Join Date: Sep 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: In a glass case of Emotion	What Is the point of correction factor then.........?

10-04-2012, 05:17 PM	#42
IVIattIVIan Scooby Specialist Member#: 295602 Join Date: Sep 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: In a glass case of Emotion	Like saying bhp versus whp!?

10-05-2012, 10:58 AM	#46
Element Tuning NASIOC Vendor Member#: 54918 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 673 WHP Element ProComp Engine	Sounds like you're at elevation so the dyno correction factor for a turbocharged car is not accurate as someone else has mentioned. Based on that other correction factor I see you're likely making 255 whp. With that said every dyno is different. On the a relatively low reading dynajet I had a customer with 290 whp pump gas hit 110 (stock turbo sti, Hydra EMS,TBE, FMIC) and my car went 112 mph with 309 whp pump gas (same mods). Other dynos in our area need 335-340 whp to hit 110-112 mph. Now you know so adjust your HP goals to get the trap speeds you want.

10-05-2012, 12:01 PM	#47
ScoobyDoo69er Scooby Newbie Member#: 82965 Join Date: Mar 2005	My contribution. 284whp 2003 Blobeye STi Type UK - So the 2.0litre model. 12.1 @ 113mph Graph and video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UliHkXPZ24E