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Old 10-03-2012, 10:26 PM   #176
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That's what I meant. The initial agreed price. The dealer made the mistake tough luck.

Having said that I would like to see him get the car for free and be done with all this. Millions is bull****.
How much you want if I incarcerate you for four hours for something you didn't do and then make you wait around for a month before dismissing the charges and leave you with a felony arrest on your record?

$30k worth of car will do it?
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:30 PM   #177
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How much you want if I incarcerate you for four hours for something you didn't do and then make you wait around for a month before dismissing the charges and leave you with a felony arrest on your record?

$30k worth of car will do it?
Not even 4 hours of my life are worth $2.2m. $30k car is a good gesture. I'd rather see criminal charges against those who bared false witness or lied to police over what happened.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:37 PM   #178
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Everyone is throwing around that the arrest will show up on his record. Can a lawyer verify that this is true?

I know that the blood center asks me if I've spent more than 72 hours in jail , but I don't recall anything about arrests on job applications before, just felony convictions… no?
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:47 PM   #179
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How much you want if I incarcerate you for four hours for something you didn't do and then make you wait around for a month before dismissing the charges and leave you with a felony arrest on your record?

$30k worth of car will do it?
I read incarcerate as "incenerate" multiple times and was really confused.

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:12 PM   #180
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Everyone is throwing around that the arrest will show up on his record. Can a lawyer verify that this is true?

I know that the blood center asks me if I've spent more than 72 hours in jail , but I don't recall anything about arrests on job applications before, just felony convictions… no?
It's definitely not expunged...It's in the online records.

http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/g...lCaseSearch.do

Chesapeake General Court, Case # GC12004676-00
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:17 PM   #181
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I don't see how dealerships can expect people to sign a new contract after they messed up the old contract.

If the situations were reversed does any dealer update the deal after the fact?

I can see it going pretty simply...

"Oh mr car dealer, I thought I was paying $15500 not $16000, I'd like to sign a new contract."

"Go **** yourself, we have it all in black and white!"
I agree 100% with these sentiments. If the shoe was on the other foot, the dealer would say tough tootsie.

With that said, $2.2m is a good negotiating number. Obviously it'll go down from there. Start high and work your way down.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:30 PM   #182
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Not even 4 hours of my life are worth $2.2m. $30k car is a good gesture. I'd rather see criminal charges against those who bared false witness or lied to police over what happened.
Aren't you one of those people who think that the court system is the appropriate replacement for regulation?

Also: "bared" false witness? Really?
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:31 PM   #183
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Everyone is throwing around that the arrest will show up on his record. Can a lawyer verify that this is true?

I know that the blood center asks me if I've spent more than 72 hours in jail , but I don't recall anything about arrests on job applications before, just felony convictions… no?
it's absolutely true... for the rest of his life (okay, for beyond his life in infinite record keeping), every background check will show a felony arrest with no info (e.g., without disposition) for GTA.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:34 PM   #184
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It's definitely not expunged...It's in the online records.

http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/g...lCaseSearch.do

Chesapeake General Court, Case # GC12004676-00
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it's absolutely true... for the rest of his life (okay, for beyond his life in infinite record keeping), every background check will show a felony arrest with no info (e.g., without disposition) for GTA.
Given the above I feel $2.2M is totally warranted, then. One's reputation has a price, especially as a nurse as he is.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:42 PM   #185
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Not even 4 hours of my life are worth $2.2m. $30k car is a good gesture. I'd rather see criminal charges against those who bared false witness or lied to police over what happened.
well you are overlooking the part in the complaint (item 68 of the facts in the lawsuit) that as representatives of the dealership they offered to make the case go away if he signed the new contract and paid the 5,600 dollars.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:08 AM   #186
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it's absolutely true... for the rest of his life (okay, for beyond his life in infinite record keeping), every background check will show a felony arrest with no info (e.g., without disposition) for GTA.
This.


Unless they have access to NCIC they aren't going to know the full story. What employer would see that and ask the fellow "Well, you look good, but I see you are a car thief... would you care to explain yourself?" No, they are going to throw your resume in the trash.


If this happened to me my career would be over. You bet your ass I would sue them.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:13 AM   #187
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In the field of nursing this could very well affect future job opportunities. I know when I was hired they did a background check and specifically asked about any arrests (not just convictions) from misdemeanor through felony. They also don't just use a third party background check service...They pull the state and federal bureau of investigation files on you. You'd probably get your application sent straight to the cylindrical file and even if you did get the interview I'd hate to have to explain about how it was just a 'misunderstanding'. Bring on the 2.2m I say.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:21 AM   #188
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I read incarcerate as "incenerate" multiple times and was really confused.

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what did your brain imagine that word to mean?

trololol
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:45 AM   #189
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disclosure: i had already looked it up, because I initially thought the same thing.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:05 AM   #190
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disclosure: i had already looked it up, because I initially thought the same thing.
I think they changed the categories.

I remember it being:
1st degree: epidermis/red
2nd degree: dermis/blister
3rd degree: charred/melted
Now it's:
1st degree: epidermis/red
2nd degree: dermis/blister
3rd degree: deep dermis/white/melted
4th degree: charred
I guess the point is that 3rd degree is life-threatening; 2nd degree, not so much.
So it can be life-threatening without having any open-flame charring.

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Old 10-04-2012, 05:58 AM   #191
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In the field of nursing this could very well affect future job opportunities. I know when I was hired they did a background check and specifically asked about any arrests (not just convictions) from misdemeanor through felony. They also don't just use a third party background check service...They pull the state and federal bureau of investigation files on you. You'd probably get your application sent straight to the cylindrical file and even if you did get the interview I'd hate to have to explain about how it was just a 'misunderstanding'. Bring on the 2.2m I say.
I have a medical imaging license in Maryland. If i get a DUI or reckless driving I lose my state license.

I do not know the laws in VA.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:28 AM   #192
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I hate frivolous law suits. I hope he gets every penny of the $2.2M. For the rest of his life, on job applications, where it says have yo ever been arrested, he will have to check yes. Any time a background check is done, it will show he was arrested for GTA. It was only or four hours, but how would you like to be thrown in a cell with Meth-heads and big bubba for four hours.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:48 AM   #193
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I like the part where they switched the car like nothing was wrong, then called the police on him.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:12 AM   #194
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Wait, 3rd degree burns, because McDonalds ordered all it's franchises to turn up the temp of the coffee to cut down on refills, isn't a big deal, but 4 hours being held is?

I'm all for this dealer being held liable, but don't minimize a case you know nothing about.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:09 AM   #195
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it's absolutely true... for the rest of his life (okay, for beyond his life in infinite record keeping), every background check will show a felony arrest with no info (e.g., without disposition) for GTA.
Are u sure about this? Doesn't seem logical.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:11 AM   #196
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Yeah there's no way that sticks on his record. If it does then I'll change my argument that $1M+ is more legit.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:17 AM   #197
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I'm in on this little pool that hasn't quite started yet. I say he ends up with 750K.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:40 AM   #198
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Yeah there's no way that sticks on his record. If it does then I'll change my argument that $1M+ is more legit.
Check the court site...there are dismissals on there from 20 years ago. It is definitely on his "permanent record".

Of course, so is the "indecent exposure" charge he had in 2009, which was also dismissed.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:45 AM   #199
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Check the court site...there are dismissals on there from 20 years ago. It is definitely on his "permanent record".
I don't know why I'm shocked that our great justice system can't fix a mistake.


Well if this is the case of this guy walking around with a permanent charge on his record over this then $2.2M is ok by me. 4 hours in jail is a different story.

My guess: $1.6M
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:51 AM   #200
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what did your brain imagine that word to mean?

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