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Old 10-01-2012, 12:01 PM   #1
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Hey I have a new group buy for you guys. This month's group buy will be for some really nice meth kits! I will be offering the Stage 2 Snow meth kits at $365.00 shipped. The price on the site is $411.35 and these are maf based kits! This group buy will end on the 31st of October and we are doing 3+ people at that price! If you are interested in a different kit let me know and I can get you priced up! The boost kit will be offered as well and pricing for that is $359.00, so if you want that one instead, let me know!

Here is the item description for the MAF kit

This kit uses the 0 to 5 Volt output signal from the Mass Air Flow sensor on many fuel injected vehicles. This means that any vehicle with a MAF (with a 0-5V output signal) can use this kit, whether they are naturally aspirated or forced induction. If the application is forced induction, it can be used with very fast-spooling turbos, or positive displacement blowers. It is easier to set up with the positive displacement blowers with a MAF signal because it is more progressive in nature vs. the boost pressure signal on those applications. This allows for accurate injection over a wide range. The result is excellent power and driveability.

Kit includes:

• UHO (Ultra High Ouput) Pump
• 3 Quart Reservoir
• Variable Controller
• 2 Nozzles To Cover a Wide Range of Horsepower
• All Required Hardware Needed For Installation
• Comprehensive Instructions

Here is the Boost based kit



This kit uses manifold boost pressure to determine when and how much fluid to inject. Proportionally injecting according to boost pressure gives the most accurate delivery of water-methanol and allows the most cooling and performance improvement over the widest range. More power and driveability is the result. It can be used on any forced induction engine: carbureted, fuel injected, turbocharged, positive displacement or centrifugal blowers. The most suitable are the centrifugal supercharged and turbocharged engines, as they build boost is a more progressive manner concerning water-methanol injection. The positive displacement blower engines will work, but it might take more work to dial in the delivery. For higher boost applications (over 25psi), the controller can be upgraded to our VC100 unit. Now with Lifetime Warranty - please see details.

Kit includes:

• 8oz. Bottle of Boost Juice concentrate (*mix 50/50 with water)
• UHO (Ultra High Output) Pump
• 3 Quart Reservoir
• Digital Variable Controller
• 2 Nozzles To Cover a Wide Range of Horsepower
• All Required Hardware Needed For Installation
• Comprehensive Instructions





Just PM me to let me know that you want to take part in this group buy and I'll get you taken care of


1. Rabbit78 - Snow Performance Stage 2 MAF Boost Cooler Methanol/Water Injection System
2. 18gabtom35 - Snow Performance Stage 2 MAF Boost Cooler Methanol/Water Injection System
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:02 AM   #2
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Who here wants to lower BAT's while increasing Octane and save money all at the same time?
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:07 PM   #3
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interesting, if i knew more about how meth works and a price i might buy in lol
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:33 PM   #4
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i have bee nbattling internally over going this route vs e85 for some time now...i think that i will have to try and allocate some funds for this!!!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:40 PM   #5
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Water/Meth injection is like chemical intercooling with the benefit of increased octane at the same time. It basically allows you to safely run increased timing and boost.

Here is a dyno chart from Snow's website showing before and after for an 04 WRX with a 20g turbo.

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Old 10-02-2012, 03:50 PM   #6
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:47 PM   #7
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Thats weird, it shows up on mine. I will try something else real quick.

Edit:I'm not sure why you can't see it, but here is a link to the graph on their site.
http://www.snowperformance.net/dyno_...gasoline&dck=7

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:30 PM   #8
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yeah i really like the effects of meth...i still havent looked at it price wise having to fill up a separet tank...but i think it would still probably be cheaper going this route in the long run seeing as u will burn through a tank of e85 much faster than petrol...and even faster than a tank of meth...and i think it was on ur site where i saw that u can use the blue windshield washer fluid in a pinch...that also has me leaning towards this set up incase i run out of meth accidentally im not sol!!

plus with the safety features available...i hope i can get enough money together before this is over!!!
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:22 AM   #9
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We have the Snow meth Boost Juice priced at $31.50 for 4 gallons. When I was running meth on my car with an M5 nozzle, I would go through 2 gallons/month. It really depends on how often you are going full throttle though. If you are not reaching the MAF voltage (or boost pressure depending on which kit you get) you set for the Meth to start injecting, you will not be using it and it will stay in the tank.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:40 AM   #10
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Anybody have any questions about Water/Meth Injection?
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:45 AM   #11
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Good morning NASIOC! Happy Friday!
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:09 AM   #12
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Its monday... A great way to make your monday better would be to save a bunch of money on making your car faster
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:07 AM   #13
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Thanks Rabbit78 for signing up for the group buy! Who else would like to join her?
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:10 PM   #14
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21 days left in this group buy
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:18 AM   #15
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We need two more to take part in this group buy? Anybody have any questions about water/meth injection and how it works/why its beneficial?
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:21 PM   #16
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Here is a little info on water/meth injection that may help explain what is going on in the motor when you inject the mixture.

Injecting water can provide a number of benefits. Most people know that it helps when you are limited to running lower octane fuels, but I want to talk about why it helps. During combustion, the water is converted to steam. This conversion pulls heat out of the combustion process and slows down the rate that pressure in the cylinder rises. The steam particles that are created get in the between the fuel and oxygen molecules which also helps slow down the combustion and pressure rise rate. Meanwhile the piston is moving towards TDC (top dead center), squeezing the gases together. But, since there is less heat in the chamber and slower pressure rise, detonation is far less likely to occur. As the piston starts its descent a controlled burn continues, but the combustion flame now has to dodge around steam molecules plus an increasing number of exhaust molecules to get to fuel and oxygen molecules.

Now lets take a look at what meth brings to the table (besides making a lot of money but causing a ton of problems for certain high school chemistry teachers that is) /breaking bad reference

Methanol has a very high latent heat of vaporization compared to gasoline, but much lower compared to water. Because it vaporizes at a much lower temperature than water, the meth will pull heat from the intake tract, the piston crown, and the intake and exhaust valves where the temperatures are much cooler than that of the combustion event (where the water comes into play). Because internally, the engine is cooler, less heat will be put into the combustion charge resulting in higher mixture density in the cylinder. Furthermore, less heat means slower burn.

So with a cooler combustion chamber and steam molecules resulting in a slower burn, spark advance and boost pressure can be increased resulting in more horsepower and improved throttle response.

Any questions?

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Old 10-22-2012, 11:02 AM   #17
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Thank you 18gabtom35! Now we just need one more!
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #18
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Alright, we have 3 days left for you to take part in this group buy and we only need one more person. So, any of you guys that were on the fence want to hop on over? We have the fastz
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:23 PM   #19
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Getting close to the end, only today and tomorrow left to get in on this
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