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Old 08-18-2012, 11:10 PM   #26
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There is nothing you can do to stop oxidation, it comes back on a regular basis, Using a deoxidizer for acrylic headlights is safer, quicker and cheaper.
Sanding your lens is not be necessary if all you have is a oxidation issue.
Removing headlight oxidation is very easy and you don't damage the protective ultra violet layer of protection.
The lens needs a protectant just like the paint does.
You will need to apply it after deoxidizing and after each wash
If you don't apply a protectant on a regular basis, the oxidation will come back and you will have to clean the lens again.
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:00 AM   #27
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any particular brand you would prefer?
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:13 AM   #28
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There is nothing you can do to stop oxidation, it comes back on a regular basis, Using a deoxidizer for acrylic headlights is safer, quicker and cheaper.
Sanding your lens is not be necessary if all you have is a oxidation issue.
Removing headlight oxidation is very easy and you don't damage the protective ultra violet layer of protection.
The lens needs a protectant just like the paint does.
You will need to apply it after deoxidizing and after each wash
If you don't apply a protectant on a regular basis, the oxidation will come back and you will have to clean the lens again.
What he said ^^

I'd sand only if I had to remove scratches.
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:57 PM   #29
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Just for your benefit. I will post this as some can't use the search button. The oxidation comes from the uv coating. The only way to remove it effectivly is to sand it off and then polish the plastic. Then you have to consider how to deal with the uv coating now being gone.

Here is what I did and suggest. I used the 3m headlight restore kit. For $20. Then I used headlight film to prevent further oxidation, $50. Haven't touched the headlights since I did this. As well they look great.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:40 PM   #30
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Just for your benefit. I will post this as some can't use the search button. The oxidation comes from the uv coating. The only way to remove it effectivly is to sand it off and then polish the plastic. Then you have to consider how to deal with the uv coating now being gone.

Here is what I did and suggest. I used the 3m headlight restore kit. For $20. Then I used headlight film to prevent further oxidation, $50. Haven't touched the headlights since I did this. As well they look great.
^^^ Ding, Ding, Ding ......... as noted in post #2
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:17 AM   #31
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Just for your benefit. I will post this as some can't use the search button. The oxidation comes from the uv coating. The only way to remove it effectivly is to sand it off and then polish the plastic. Then you have to consider how to deal with the uv coating now being gone.

Here is what I did and suggest. I used the 3m headlight restore kit. For $20. Then I used headlight film to prevent further oxidation, $50. Haven't touched the headlights since I did this. As well they look great.
Where are you getting the film? Are you just using vinyl from the likes of Lowes? Does Lowes sell UV resistant film that would be appropriate? Im tired of using my DA orbital, buffing the oxidation off with Plast-X every 2 months.. They get crystal clear, but start oxidizing again in 2 weeks.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:21 AM   #32
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Where are you getting the film? Are you just using vinyl from the likes of Lowes? Does Lowes sell UV resistant film that would be appropriate? Im tired of using my DA orbital, buffing the oxidation off with Plast-X every 2 months.. They get crystal clear, but start oxidizing again in 2 weeks.
Use.

An automotive.

Clear coat.

You can buy it in a can at autozone.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:46 AM   #33
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Use.

An automotive.

Clear coat.

You can buy it in a can at autozone.
So, go with vinyl. Got it.



Do you advise sanding before laying down the automotive clear? Or will a good cleaning suffice?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:59 AM   #34
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So, go with vinyl. Got it.



Do you advise sanding before laying down the automotive clear? Or will a good cleaning suffice?
Wet sand first. Depending on how bad it is you can start with 1000 or 1500, then 2000.

Plastic polish.

Clear.

Done.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:01 PM   #35
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2393695

There you go. Will last a few years
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:06 PM   #36
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I use plastix
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:42 PM   #37
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Here's what I recently started doing to restore headlights. I got this from a detailing forum, the results last a long time.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...lant-idea.html

Wetsand 400-2000 grit
Polish w/ Meguiars M105
Polish w/ Meguiars M205
IPA wipe
Coat with a 50/50 mix of Helmsman Spar Urethane and mineral spirits

Let it dry and you're done.
i think a lot of people missed this post. while i do not prefer the megs twins vs. the spray twins from OPT, this post basically sums up what is accepted by most to be the best way to get lights done right and to last several years once corrected.

i personally use optimum opti-coat and coat three times within the cure period to get a thicker film build but the spar method works fine for a lot of people.

the key is getting something with lots of UV absorbers on the lens once it's as clear as you want it. and...clearing with clear coat is unnecessary. the potential downside and mess is not worth it when you have much easier and more effective methods available.

the lamin-x (UV protecting headlight film) idea is interesting because it would also help against the number one enemy of any headlight treatment - debris and road wash. i just haven't tried it to know for sure.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:45 AM   #38
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i used a rockblocker film on my replacement ebay headlights. i got them just to use while i was deciding on what headlights to go with (broke my morettes). the plan was to get whatever headlights i could find CHEAP, and use them until they got cloudy. i applied the rockblocker film before they went on the car, and 6 years + 120K miles later, and they're still looking like new!
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:22 PM   #39
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I didn't do this on my WRX, is it is still about a month old, however on my 99 Jetta (new style)I was in an accident in which one of my headlights needed to be replaced. So I had a brand new light, and a really old... super hazy (like, yellow) light.

I bought the 3M Lens Restoration kit. They are cheap, and they give you an abundance of sanding discs.

Be meticulous, charge your drill batteries (I was really thourough... went through the spare too) and follow the instructed grit sequence. It turned out so well that when I told people one was new and one was restored, very few of them could tell which was which.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:40 AM   #40
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wow that looks great
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:37 PM   #41
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Did mine last week with a $10 kit from Harbor Freight. Let's see how it holds up!
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:38 PM   #42
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Here's what I recently started doing to restore headlights. I got this from a detailing forum, the results last a long time.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...lant-idea.html

Wetsand 400-2000 grit
Polish w/ Meguiars M105
Polish w/ Meguiars M205
IPA wipe
Coat with a 50/50 mix of Helmsman Spar Urethane and mineral spirits

Let it dry and you're done.
This guy has the right idea, only thing I would change would be to use a cutting pad with the M105 and a polishing pad with the M205. Seal them up when your done with a good sealant and your done.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:09 PM   #43
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a cheap way is to use some toothpaste. it works okay and will take away the yellow haze.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:27 PM   #44
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After 6 years, my 2007 is showing some hazing. I ordered the 3M kit from Amazon, but I think I'm going to take the lenses off to do it, because I dont want to accidently hit the paint in the corners of the lights
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:37 PM   #45
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After 6 years, my 2007 is showing some hazing. I ordered the 3M kit from Amazon, but I think I'm going to take the lenses off to do it, because I dont want to accidently hit the paint in the corners of the lights
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:52 AM   #46
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Anything for the inside of a lens? mine fogs up due to a leak somewhere and now it looks hazy from the inside it seems.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:45 PM   #47
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Anything for the inside of a lens? mine fogs up due to a leak somewhere and now it looks hazy from the inside it seems.
Bake the lights and get some selant from lightwerks rebake and your gtg unless the plastic housing has a crack
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:02 PM   #48
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A couple(3-5) coat of automotive clear will protect without an issues. Everytime you sand you sand away the factory UV/Haze protection and sooner or later you go through it. Same goes for buffing as it just takes less off but still removes some.

Clear coating puts that protection back on. The haze will come back but it will take a few years for that to happen while in mean time you can enjoy shiney new headlights matainence free.

Most shops will do it for aorund $50-100 if you do the prep work and give them just the headlights
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:01 PM   #49
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Bake the lights and get some selant from lightwerks rebake and your gtg unless the plastic housing has a crack
Its not cracked but I think there's some residue on the inside of the lens
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:22 PM   #50
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Its not cracked but I think there's some residue on the inside of the lens
Then bake them and take them apart clean with denatured alcohol and then put back together with new sealant
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