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Old 10-06-2012, 10:11 AM   #1
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So after buying some parts for my 06 STI to go stage 2, I threw in the titanium STI key because I just bought a 02 WRX Wagon and thought it would be cool to have. Well after much debate I decided to just try to use it on my STI instead. I mean, it would be nice if it worked...

After much research and asking of some friends, I got everything from "I'd take it to the dealer", to "no one can cut this because it's TITANIUM!!!", or even "I'd take it to a locksmith, they are less likely to mess it up." FYI only the handle part is titanium...the functional part is just standard key material.

So I called two local dealers, one told me that they would cut it, if I had proof of ownership but they wouldn't guarantee the cut because I was supplying my own blank. Another told me that they would but their machine was not working that great and didn't want to mess up the blank, so they recommended a locksmith. Oh and neither of these dealerships parts department even knew what I was talking about when I spoke of a "STI Key", this was very disappointing.

So very confused and not sure what to do, I went to Lowe's to get some ant spray and stopped to talk to the key cutting guy. I asked him about the process of cutting and if he could do it. The guy was very knowledgeable and showed me that their machine works by using the original key to guide the cutting wheels and that's what cuts the blank. So after some more talking I decided I would buy a $2 blank and test it first.

Now I have heard that you can just leave your standard key on the key chain and it will work, but I have not seen it actually in practice. So he cuts the $2 Lowe's blank and I take it out to the car. It not only unlocks my doors, but starts the car with no hesitation! I was very pleased!!!

So I took the STI Key Blank back inside and told him to cut it. You know how this ends, it works and all is good!

Now I will say this...having both keys on the same key ring is kinda goofy and is a load in the pocket to carry around. Also, I did have it not start properly one time out of about 10 times trying it. I think that the original was just too far away from the ignition switch, so I took my time the next time and it started.

Just thought I would write something on here, because most of the information I found was kind of vague. I hope this clears up some stuff for others!
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:14 AM   #2
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its a similar concept to a car starter; you could take a spare and hide it in the dash and not have to carry the other key around.

of course, just like with a car starter, you lose some of that security
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:17 AM   #3
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Agreed. Still not looked too heavily into where to hide/tape/store the standard key yet. That's what will probably end up happening.

But like you said, you do lose some security by doing that.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:17 PM   #4
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so you can have any locksmith cut a key from a blank and your car will start? I thought the 05 and up cars where chipped and need to be dealer programmed?? Thats nice if I can just go to lowes and get one cut for my 05 STi, please tell me if Im reading this correctly, thanks
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:30 PM   #5
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06 and up have the chips.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:33 PM   #6
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No. You have to have a "chipped" key.

This is the key I am now using:


The only way to do this is to keep the original key on the key ring with the fancy STI key, or do what I've done now, and mount the original key inside the steering column next to the ignition switch.

So in short, you can't just use a blank from anywhere. All it will do is unlock your doors and trunk.

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Old 10-07-2012, 10:36 PM   #7
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06 and up have the chips.
05 and up actually.

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2005.html
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:41 PM   #8
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it doesnt have to be in the ignition cylinder to pick up the chip in the key??? where did you mount your key? under the plastic cover that surrounds the column?
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my 05 does not have a chip.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:51 PM   #10
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so now I'm lost dont mean to hyjack the thread so my appoligies for that but does my 2005 STi have a chip or not? Id like to do the titanium key if it doesnt
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:52 PM   #11
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it doesnt have to be in the ignition cylinder to pick up the chip in the key??? where did you mount your key? under the plastic cover that surrounds the column?
Pretty much. You take the bottom plastic shroud off and place the key right under the switch. I found that you have to mount it with the key facing the driver and as close to the switch as possible. Luckily there is a metal bracket that is used as a wire tray that works perfect

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my 05 does not have a chip.
You don't have an STI...WRX's got them starting in 06, STI's in 05.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:56 PM   #12
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do you have any pics? how did you secure the key to the tumbler? Zip tie?
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Pretty much. You take the bottom plastic shroud off and place the key right under the switch. I found that you have to mount it with the key facing the driver and as close to the switch as possible. Luckily there is a metal bracket that is used as a wire tray that works perfect



You don't have an STI...WRX's got them starting in 06, STI's in 05.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:58 PM   #13
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Here is what I did at first, but soon learned I had to swing it 180 degrees, where the key is facing the driver, but I just used tape and a zip tie.


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Yep, my 05 Sti needs the chip. Otherwise it will barely start with the "fancy Sti key" and shut off immediately. I took my car recently to a shop to find a boost leak and I got a call later that day saying my car wouldn't start, could be the fuel pump, etc. I was really bummed out, but when I went in to the shop and he handed me the keys I realized that he had been trying to start it with the titanium Sti key! Haha I also had the black key with the chip on the keyring but I guess he decided not to use it? I just took the titanium key off -_-
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:05 PM   #15
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Here is what I did at first, but soon learned I had to swing it 180 degrees, where the key is facing the driver, but I just used tape and a zip tie.
I'd be too scared of some theif opening up the column to hot-wire the car and finding that! Also it'd be annoying if a bump while driving jostled it out of place and you had to open up the column just to start the car.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:13 PM   #16
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There is a slight risk I guess but you wouldn't know it was there. As for it coming loose it's pretty secure. I did leave a screw driver in the car just in case.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:11 AM   #17
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Just saw this, you should be able to slide the chip out of the OEM key and you can fit it into the key fob itself, it will fit if you cut off the flat part that shows on the outside of the key. I know you can cut that part off as I broke mine and found it on the floor, and my chip is still in the key.

This way your key isn't mounted inside the car and what not.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:20 AM   #18
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^yes, what I did with my key was to remove the chip from the key. I had it taped with electrical tape to the steering column and never had any issues.
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Cut the blade off the key or at least grind the teeth off if youre going to tape it to the column like that.
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^yes, what I did with my key was to remove the chip from the key. I had it taped with electrical tape to the steering column and never had any issues.
I'm game. Have any pictures of this? How to remove it from the key...I'm a little scared of messing it up cause the original keys are crazy expensive!!!
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I'm game. Have any pictures of this? How to remove it from the key...I'm a little scared of messing it up cause the original keys are crazy expensive!!!
If you still have your valet key pull the chip out of that one. That is what I did. Works fine. You can see the little cover under the key. Pull that out and the chips is a black microchip that is glued inside. Just take your time carving or prying it out. I chipped a little corner off my chp and it still works fine transplanted in the fob.

However, not like the OP I had a hard time getting my key cut. I went to the local Lowes and the lady said "oh no, we cant cut that for you.... you could sue us for cutting you a key without the transponder!" haha thanks ma'am.
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If you still have your valet key pull the chip out of that one. That is what I did. Works fine. You can see the little cover under the key. Pull that out and the chips is a black microchip that is glued inside. Just take your time carving or prying it out. I chipped a little corner off my chp and it still works fine transplanted in the fob.

However, not like the OP I had a hard time getting my key cut. I went to the local Lowes and the lady said "oh no, we cant cut that for you.... you could sue us for cutting you a key without the transponder!" haha thanks ma'am.
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I'm game. Have any pictures of this? How to remove it from the key...I'm a little scared of messing it up cause the original keys are crazy expensive!!!
I dont have any pics, but take your time and you should be able to get it out. I didnt this a few years ago. When I went with the Sti key and Zerosports push start.
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:08 PM   #23
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dudee i bought my 04 sti a year ago, came with all 3 original keys. A valet key, a master key and the sti titanium key! those came with the car factory back then..I neede to make another one just incase, good looking out on lowes! thats where i'll take my key to get made :P
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I used to have the titanium key for my 04 wrx and so I bought one for my 07 sti. Good thing I bumped into this thread because I had no idea that the keys were chipped.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:10 PM   #25
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I used to have the titanium key for my 04 wrx and so I bought one for my 07 sti. Good thing I bumped into this thread because I had no idea that the keys were chipped.
Glad I could help!
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