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Old 10-03-2012, 03:43 PM   #51
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Lol. Works for me.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:06 PM   #52
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I got three base maps for testing this weekend.. a few things to finish up yet, wiring my MAF and pulling the wires out again for gauges to monitor afr with the serial cable. Have to get my romraider game face on!
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:02 PM   #53
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Well mine fired up today! Rough but running. Need to dial in wastegate issues.. as they are open at idle. 5psi springs are installed. I'm leaning towards those not being big enough, but I'm working through it before taking them apart.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:00 PM   #54
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Well mine fired up today! Rough but running. Need to dial in wastegate issues.. as they are open at idle. 5psi springs are installed. I'm leaning towards those not being big enough, but I'm working through it before taking them apart.
You gotta be psyched that it fired up I would think that you should install the .8 or 1 bar springs. Any boost leaks that you can see? Did you pressure test it for leaks?

Dom sent me my breaking maps today but we are still waiting on the heads. Hopefully they will be ready Monday. Finished my cold air box today, it came out nice even if I say so myself, stealth, insulated with Fat Matt, ram air from bumper and it should quiet the intake! Hopefully firing it up by next weekend.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:38 PM   #55
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Thats what I would have thought too. I'm going to tinker around before tearing those apart. They aren't in a fun spot for doing work. Doable, but not fun.

That is cool about the airbox, ... Pictures!!
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:35 PM   #56
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From the looks of your waste-gate(s) location, servicing them looks to be no fun but doable

Yeah with the Cobb air box, the problem I had with it was the front was wide open and designed to fit around the snokus and abs unit. I deleted my snorkus way back and built a ram air from the lower right front bumper vent on my my Forester FSTI/ Sport bumper. It's a 4" ram air flex/ vent with a collector zip tied right into the grill on the bumper vent and it feeds the stock air box.

When I added the Cobb SF intake I wanted to take advantage of my ram air so I needed to fully enclose the air box to the fender so I made a filler section that fills the snorkus space and also encloses the abs unit. The other thing I am not crazy about is the noise from the Cobb SF intake so i wanted to sound insulate it with Fat Matt which I have on hand. I built the filler section scribed/ trimmed it to the fender/ engine compartment and had the complete airbox powder coated black crinkle, assembled it covered the inside with Fat Matt and it's ready to go. This should keep the intake air cold and quiet the noise of the intake. I like stealth with the XTI, it draws less attention and makes the performance of the car that much more surprising.

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:01 PM   #57
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What do you have left to do?
Uhhmmm still waiting for the motor/crankshaft to be finished so I can assemble it.
The machine shop I took it to to set the clearances who shall remain nameless @ this point( Starts w A ends w/ S) had some Meth head(IMO) work on it, the guy hates Imports,Prolly life in general & ****ED MY **** UP!!!.
So now < had to have the cranks main journals ground & run OS bearings & pray the block won't expand that much.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:40 PM   #58
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Damn, that really sucks. Manitou - box looks great! well thought out and executed.

Wastegates were serviceable, but barely. I had to fight the piss out of them, spent from 945pm to 135am just to get those little buggers in there. Clearances between the wastegates were the true problem. My car is REALLY noisy. Not motor noise. Exhaust / tinging from bottom of engine. Not knocking to the best of my knowledge, and when I was priming it, there wasn't any issue. The motor itself appears quite quiet really, but I think I need to re tighten everything down now that it has heat cycled a few times.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:52 AM   #59
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Uhhmmm still waiting for the motor/crankshaft to be finished so I can assemble it.
The machine shop I took it to to set the clearances who shall remain nameless @ this point( Starts w A ends w/ S) had some Meth head(IMO) work on it, the guy hates Imports,Prolly life in general & ****ED MY **** UP!!!.
So now < had to have the cranks main journals ground & run OS bearings & pray the block won't expand that much.
That sucks, they should buy you a new crank! Screw their solution to grind CJ's and run OS bearings. It's not something you did it's there fault! JMHO
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:03 AM   #60
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That sucks, they should buy you a new crank! Screw their solution to grind CJ's and run OS bearings. It's not something you did it's there fault! JMHO
The crank isn't the issue, it's the mains that they over bored ... either get a new block & have that sleeved, or grind the crank & get O.S bearings...
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:18 AM   #61
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The crank isn't the issue, it's the mains that they over bored ... either get a new block & have that sleeved, or grind the crank & get O.S bearings...
OK, so they ****ed up your block not the crank. They owe you a new block not OS bearings. Was your block was sleeved?
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:26 PM   #62
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OK, so they ****ed up your block not the crank. They owe you a new block not OS bearings. Was your block was sleeved?
Yes it's sleeved .....
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:15 PM   #63
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Heard from Dom today and he has November 15th to the 18th blocked out for us. Just waiting for the word from Dewey that he reserved the new dyno going in next to their shop! Get those project done for break in and tuning time.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:13 AM   #64
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Sweet. A goal!

I just had to rip some fuel stuff apart tonight, hoping this will be the last batch of leaks before I get my car out of the garage.
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Old 10-20-2012, 05:06 PM   #65
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Hey Dewey - do you have any update for us? If its not the weekend of the 16tg looks like the weekend after Thanksgiving I'd say?
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:28 PM   #66
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Update time. This is coming down to the wire guys. We need a final number by tomorrow and were going to need payment by the end of the week. Sorry for the short notice but it's kinda how the cookie crumbled. With SEMA coming up and both MPS and us having REALLY crammed shops right now trying to get ready to take a week off.

Dom charges 1k a day. He needs 3 days paid for, one being for travel, the other two for tuning. That has to be divided among the people getting the tunes. Also he needs his flight and hotel. I've figured it for 6 people to be around $670/tune and this ISN'T counting the dyno time which I'm still working out.

Please let us know quickly what you guys want to do so we can figure out payment and get everything booked.

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Old 10-24-2012, 11:47 PM   #67
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I have no clue what dyno time costs, but I'm willing to bet it is all of 750 a day ($75 hr seems reasonable for piece of equipment like that)

Assuming your initial numbers are correct 670+250 for dyno = one expensive stage two tune. That almost seems out of the question for those guys.

900+ for a tune that I will be getting is almost unreasonable ... Manitou and I talked about our concerns for this today.

I can't drop 900 on the flip of switch and I doubt most people will drop it period
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:02 AM   #68
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That's what tunes should cost, then you wouldn't have a watered down market with these wannabe tuners blowing sheeiit up.

A tune is the most important part of the process, if you have access to a quality tuner, who knows what he/she is doing, cost shouldn't be the deciding factor.

But we'll continue to see this trend for sometime to come I'm gonna guess.

at the same time paying for dyno time and flights, lodging, ect adds up.

I tried doing this before and had tons of people interested but it never pans out.

Good luck guys!

Dom is a great tuner, I had him tune my WRX, and wish he was local. That map was absolutely amazing, car never felt so great.

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:09 AM   #69
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Just let me know what you guys want to do. We're here to help any way we can. I have the dyno time reserved but I really want to know what you guys want to do by the end of the week so I can cancel that if I need to.

This is your guy's deal here. I'm only here to help facilitate it. We aren't making ANY money on it and honestly we just want to help you guys out and hang out with Dom for a few days lol. Whatever you guys decide is cool with us just figure it out quick or it's going to get even more expensive with getting tickets on such a short notice

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Will do. I left a message for Dom today and did not hear back from him. I will try him tomorrow. I really want Dom to tune my build with the long rod 2.5 block he built for me and to hang out with Dom and you guys.

How many cars do you have for him to tune Dewey?

It's kind of a bummer we have to rush this now as I started this whole thing well over a month ago

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Old 10-25-2012, 02:15 AM   #71
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That's what tunes should cost, then you wouldn't have a watered down market with these wannabe tuners blowing sheeiit up.

A tune is the most important part of the process, if you have access to a quality tuner, who knows what he/she is doing, cost shouldn't be the deciding factor.

But we'll continue to see this trend for sometime to come I'm gonna guess.

at the same time paying for dyno time and flights, lodging, ect adds up.

I tried doing this before and had tons of people interested but it never pans out.

Good luck guys!

Dom is a great tuner, I had him tune my WRX, and wish he was local. That map was absolutely amazing, car never felt so great.

Phil
I don't disagree with you Phil. You get what you pay for. It's just amortizing the travel costs with the number of tunes that can be done in a day or two that is tough. We almost need to have him there for 3 days minimum with full days to make it work out best. We will see.

Where did Dom tune your car at?
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I don't disagree with you Phil. You get what you pay for. It's just amortizing the travel costs with the number of tunes that can be done in a day or two that is tough. We almost need to have him there for 3 days minimum with full days to make it work out best. We will see.

Where did Dom tune your car at?
A couple years ago when he did internet tunes, I was lucky enough to have him take time out and send me maps and get my car dialed in.

Its gonna be tough getting people together and pay up before hand. I posted a thread and had it up for almost three months trying to get him out here, only taking deposits to cover his airfare, and lodging. I had a ton of people who were interested and then when it came time to pay, nobody could be found.


You really need to get 15-18 people together pay deposits, secure the airfare way ahead of time to make it worth while.

It gonna be tough to do, these $200 "stage x" tunes are killing the market, Well they're helping piston, rod and bearing sales at least...

I hope you guys can get him out here cause his knowledge of these cars is unbelievable, I'll put it this way, he could tell me which vac line I blew off while doing a pull, by looking at the log.


Good luck guys!
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:00 PM   #73
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I might have worded poorly. . . I'm willing to pay the $900 cause Dom has done similar things with me saying what is wrong. I have a friend who lives in Chicago so that's a bonus for me.

I just cannot front the money today. damn sensors killing my budget haha.

I can send you $400 tonight Dewey for helping someway..

$500 The next week to cover hopefully the rest.
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I might have worded poorly. . . I'm willing to pay the $900 cause Dom has done similar things with me saying what is wrong. I have a friend who lives in Chicago so that's a bonus for me.

I just cannot front the money today. damn sensors killing my budget haha.

I can send you $400 tonight Dewey for helping someway..

$500 The next week to cover hopefully the rest.
You might have to give me a call. If were going to do this you are going to need more than just you and I would need the money asap to atleast get the tickets.
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You might have to give me a call. If were going to do this you are going to need more than just you and I would need the money asap to atleast get the tickets.
I spoke at length with Dom today. I will call you both once I get out of Dodge its just hectic at the moment. I think we can make this work but we all have to put a deposit up to commit. Money talks
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