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Old 10-08-2012, 01:58 PM   #26
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I suppose this gives you an idea of the energy required to shear through a Subaru.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:00 PM   #27
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Sorry, I don't agree. It's the first week in October. Yes, while it was an abruptly chilly night...

It's unreasonable to expect someone to change their tires so early in a season due to a single dramatically cooler night. probably wasn't even on his radar.

More importantly, while a summer tire doesn't grip as well in 40 degree weather as 80 degree weather, it still has plenty of grip at those temps to drive plenty plenty fast on. Certainly worlds more grip than would be needed to drive at anything close to safe speeds for that highway.

The tires were 10000% not the cause of the accident. Presumably, a very very bad driving error was.


More generally, I'm sick and tired of the..."OMG 40 degree temps, your summer tires are ice skates!!!!"

That's complete BS. Yes, they're down on grip. But if they're down enough grip that it's causing a car control issue on public roads, you're driving like a ****ing asshat and need to slow the hell down. Period.

NO **** the tires wasnt the cause of the accident but it surly made it easier to loose control. (AKA-we all know the true reason)

Last year i'm perty sure the tri state people remember that huge ice storm we had in Oct 2011 was horrendous.
The first thing I did was swap out my summers for winters before i even moved the sti any ware . all ready mounted on spare wheels .
had a slight mishap 3 yrs back with summer tires in a storm by surprised .
not fun .

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:26 PM   #28
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...The first thing I did was swap out my summers for winters before i even move the sti any ware .
wut
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:36 PM   #29
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And, after that, I'm sure some 16 year old is going to come in here and tell me how safe of a driver they are in their STi......
There are many 16-18yr old safe drivers, some very skilled. There are also tons of retards at any age who crash on the road doing retarded things.

Just last month I had a friend sell a GT2 RS to a guy in his 50's. Less than 3hrs later he went head on into a semi at 160mph. The car was barely recognizable. Stupid people do stupid things regardless of age.

I wouldn't mind a special license for high performance cars, weed out the morons who have no business in them. If you're 16......18....20 or whatever age, but can respect the power and drive responsibly, then I have no issue with you driving it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:38 PM   #30
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Bunch of ****ing idiots.

I feel bad for the passengers.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:00 PM   #31
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Last year i'm perty sure the tri state people remember that huge ice storm we had in Oct 2011 was horrendous.
The first thing I did was swap out my summers for winters before i even moved the sti any ware . all ready mounted on spare wheels .
had a slight mishap 3 yrs back with summer tires in a storm by surprised .
not fun .
FYI - Snow tires won't do any better on ice than any other tire except for studded. If there's ice on the road, avoid driving unless someone in your family is dying. It's not worth the risk.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:17 PM   #32
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FYI - Snow tires won't do any better on ice than any other tire except for studded. If there's ice on the road, avoid driving unless someone in your family is dying. It's not worth the risk.
100% agree
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:33 PM   #33
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I feel bad for gr owners insurance rates.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:41 PM   #34
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I drive that stretch of road to and from work all the time...stupid hurts, and unfortunately sometimes kills.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:48 PM   #35
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Make sure you get the VIN# so you can avoid it in the Carfax report. Darwinism working its mojo...
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:57 PM   #36
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FYI - Snow tires won't do any better on ice than any other tire except for studded.

Are you sure about that?

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Old 10-08-2012, 05:05 PM   #37
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Things like this are never a good thing to happen. I feel for their families.

Now that being said, you have to wonder what went down, alcohol? drugs? Just having fun? Either way, take it to the track!
Take your drugs and alcohol to the track? I'm not sure I agree with your advice. ;-)
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:14 PM   #38
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The driver didn't have a license...
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:21 PM   #39
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2012 with a learners permit = trouble = lives taken
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:26 PM   #40
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Tires wouldn't help with mental deficiency. Kids are stupid and handing them a high power car will make them want to be the cool kids who show off. It's a strong message that people ignore. Responsibility on the road is key.
High power car? Lol, okay.

STis are a lot of things, but they aren't high powered. Especially not relatively stock.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:29 PM   #41
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High power car? Lol, okay.

STis are a lot of things, but they aren't high powered. Especially not relatively stock.
While I agree 100% with your post...

For someone with a learned permit...

Thats alot of car.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:32 PM   #42
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High power car? Lol, okay.

STis are a lot of things, but they aren't high powered. Especially not relatively stock.
For an inexperienced driver, it is too much power. Especially with kids thinking its a Japanese race car or some bs.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:43 PM   #43
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2012 with a learners permit = trouble = lives taken
And it sounds like the driver, as is usually the case, is the lone survivor. Imagine living with that for the rest of your life...
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:44 PM   #44
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STis are completely high powered compared to the average sedan that teenagers drive. Someone was an idiot for letting that kid drive that car.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:49 PM   #45
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I know who is to blame. The parents. Who in the $#@* let's a 17 year old drive a car like this?
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:59 PM   #46
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Because the persons buying these cars do not know a thing about them. Its not your Mitsubishi mirage. This is why sti, wrx, evo, mustang ect get bad names and include harassment from police. Its not a kids car and more importantly not to be your first car to own
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:01 PM   #47
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The Sti was probably the safest car they had for him to drive. You guys really don't think just because the car is slower, he wouldn't push it just as hard. I've never seen this road, but from the sound of it he would have ended up in the trees no matter what he was driving.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:11 PM   #48
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I know who is to blame. The parents. let's a 17 year old drive a car like this?
+1 for this and since I know Southern State well enough that he was speeding for sure and lost it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:13 PM   #49
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After working in pavement design for state highways and knowing what I know, I hardly fly around corners like I used to. Especially when the pavement is wet.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:23 PM   #50
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i've driven race cars since i was 10 and once i bumped up into bigger cars going tripple digit speeds i then knew that driving like a maniac wasn't for the road. i since gave up racing, and bought a new 2012 wrx. its by far nothing like some of the race cars ive driven. but at times i realize how much faster it is then a "normal" car. if i had this car at 16 im sure id be dead too. parents with money need to read car reviews a little before buying their kids cars like this. save it for the track.
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