LI Subaru crash: STi cut in half

[Rampager2000]

Originally Posted by k04sti

It is a lot of power. Hell most of the people here with stock STi's can't even launch their car properly. Takes a lot to learn a car and to drive properly. Nonetheless a kid with only a learner's permit and this STi is probably his first car. Yes there are higher powered cars, but an STi is pretty damn fast.
Any cars that run 13', 14's in the 1/4 stock are too fast for a teens first car.

If the kid were in say a yaric accord or something else he wouldn't even have been able to get to 100mph nevertheless would he try because he knows his car is slow.

Originally Posted by REX8

For some people, for whatever the reason, having the sporty "fast" car encourages them to do stupid things. I would have to agree that's the case for an average teen.

Maybe not for you, or for many others...but for your average HS kid. Sorry, Peer pressure, self stupidity, etc. often get the best of young people.

I don't entirely disagree. I do know my Sonata was fast enough there was a point in time where the only vehicle in the parking lot faster than me was some kids Civic Si who had done some silly tune to it and was a little riced. At that school, my car was considered a sporty car and I had peer pressure to go fast in it. I just didn't.

Like now, I would feel so bad if I killed someone. However, with my brother, I'll do a little spirited driving with him. He loves it, I make sure he buckles up, and I don't get stupid with it. At the same time, I'd rather set the example of showing the difference between driving like a complete asshat going 130 and squealing around turns, and hitting 80/90 down straights and slowing down enough you're just getting force pushing you. Stupid either way? Yeah. But one I feel entirely in control and the other I wouldn't.

People shouldn't be pinning this on age, though. How many videos are there on Youtube of guys in muscle cars/exotics that hit the gas around a turn and wrecked their lambo or something of the sort? Plenty. Like has been said, it's all about mindset. I feel this matters less about age and more about examples that have been given. Some 50 year olds just seem to have not grown up enough to be able to handle the cars.

I'm 18 and I honestly feel more responsible in my car than most elderly folks in the area with ratrods and all. They're constantly driving like ********, starting ****, road rage, going fast all the time.. You name it.

Originally Posted by easterbran

I completely agree with you. That's what I was talking about having the right mindset. Also, it's up to the parents in the end to determine if their kid is going to kill themselves in the car or not.

Exactly my point.