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Old 10-09-2012, 08:28 PM   #1
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I have a 2012 wrx with stock summer tires. Iím looking at getting a set of wheels and tires for winter driving.

Snowfall varies from a half inch to a foot or more. Roads are always plowed during and after storms when they occur. Temps on average are below freezing mid November through mid March and at times below zero.

I'm torn between all seasons or a snow tire because there is a lot of dry pavement driving. We also have a 2011 Outback which has the stock all seasons which got around great last winter. Is it safe to say the wrx would get around just as good with all seasons?

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Old 10-09-2012, 08:34 PM   #2
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You already have decent summers, so I see no reason to go with all seasons. You'd be compromising performance in the cold with literally no benefit. Just get some winters and call it a day.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:44 PM   #3
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its not just the snow its the temps the roads will reach. Winters have softer tread so you can actually get some grip on ice cold asphalt. If it were me i would get some winters they will be the same price.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:51 PM   #4
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Fill out your profile.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2418184 Is a similar thread posted from today. I know if you searched you would find a decent answer. But even so, we can go one up on this.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1608459 Even moderated by TIRE RACK! What more could you ask for?
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:02 PM   #5
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i picked up my 2012 in feb and LUCKILY we got no snow. i have a friend powdercoating me some 2002 wrx wheels and my winter tires will be ordered within the next 2 weeks. cant beat having a second set of wheels..
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:20 PM   #6
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Fill out your profile.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2418184 Is a similar thread posted from today. I know if you searched you would find a decent answer. But even so, we can go one up on this.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1608459 Even moderated by TIRE RACK! What more could you ask for?
No!

I did search and came up with the same crap in the post you suggested.

I really didn't need a tire lesson although very good information.

It sounds like the all seasons on the wrx would get me around just as good as the outback gets around with all seasons. Where a winter tire of some sort is going to be rock solid in the snow and on snow packed roads and fine on dry pavement as long as i'm not going break neck speeds. Assuming 65 to 75 mph are not break neck speeds.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:52 PM   #7
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Get dedicated snow tires. I loved my General Altimax Artics. Great in the deep stuff and still pretty decent on wet/dry pavement.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #8
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Get some Nokian WR's if you are going all-seasons. They do very well in the snow and wear like iron. I had some on my WRX that saw 90%+ of their miles in the relatively warm SF bay area and were able to get me through any snow in Tahoe that my car could clear. I actually pulled a Ford Explorer out of a snow drift once - lift throttle over steer gets lots of SUV's from the bay area in Tahoe. They are not as good on ice as a real winter tire, but if you're going for all-season, check these out.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:01 PM   #9
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Speaking from experience with the OEM tires you will have dangerously low grip at temps bellow 20 and any slush will be impossible. With AWD it is deceptive because although you will get moving, you will not be able to stop or steer with a summer tire. General makes a good winter tire and of course Blizzacs are always popular. Even in mild by some standard winter conditions in Philadelphia, summer tires are not a good option.

Depending on where you live you can go with a true winter tire or a winter oriented all season for Nov-March.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:01 PM   #10
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Let me start by saying I had originally planned on getting all-weathers just like you. Talking about it with nasioc members made me realize what a dumb idea that was because you still have to be careful in the snow and they're not as good as the stock tires in the summer. Summer tires in the winter are like driving on ice pucks and all-weathers are okay but kinda pointless if you'd only use them during the winter. Seriously consider a winter set of rubber as those will keep you and others safer.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:51 PM   #11
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When I become Master of the Planet, item #59 will be to remove the words snow tires from the lexicon and replace them with winter tires. Winter tires are as much if not more to do about the temperature as they do the physical snow. If you live in an area with real snow, its silly to get all seasons. Don't run with scissors and remember summer tires become shopping cart wheels when the temps dip into the 50s.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:56 PM   #12
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I feel like I just read 3 other threads relating "winter tires" with in the last 4 hours. Please search that oogle website before making a new thread
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:40 AM   #13
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What Ron said. Get 'winter' tires for winter. Once you drive with them, you will be scared of all the cars on the road without them.
fwd vs. awd- The awd feels better no matter what compared to all the other vehicles on the road. But it comes down to 'shoes'. Think of it this way.
Usain Bolt wearing steel toe work boots and a pair of 501s (awd w/ all seasons) can outrun your slow a$$ (fwd), but put him up against himself in real running shoes (awd w/ winter tires) and see who wins.
It's using the right tool for the job- a screwdriver is not a prybar. It works, but not as well as a prybar.

Enough analogies???
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:32 AM   #14
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OP, so what is a reason why you do not want to get winter tires?

FYI, not all winter tires are created equally. Performance winters are very different than "normal" winters. Different characteristics, different capabilities. Understand the differences before you make a decision.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:10 AM   #15
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I feel like I just read 3 other threads relating "winter tires" with in the last 4 hours. Please search that oogle website before making a new thread
I'm very proud of you. Keep reading i'm sure you find more. I'm a new member so i couldn't start a thread in the tire section until i had three replies from a different post or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it said.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:40 AM   #16
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Get some Nokian WR's if you are going all-seasons.
I'm running Nokian wrg2's as my dedicated winter tires, they get you to 90% of the winter tire but will last forever if you use them as dedicated tires. Haven't swapped yet, waiting for the first decent snow to get rid of the summer tires.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:54 AM   #17
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I'm very proud of you. Keep reading i'm sure you find more. I'm a new member so i couldn't start a thread in the tire section until i had three replies from a different post or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it said.
Oh well thank you. Have you tried typing in a search engine for what you were looking for? No you didn't did you? You people make me sick. Btw enjoy your short stay here. I hope you find what you're looking for
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OP, so what is a reason why you do not want to get winter tires?

FYI, not all winter tires are created equally. Performance winters are very different than "normal" winters. Different characteristics, different capabilities. Understand the differences before you make a decision.
My main concern was dry pavement driving. There have been winters here where it has only snowed a few inches for the whole winter.

I think i'm going to go with stock size 17" Dunlop Graspic DS-3 (Studless Ice & Snow) on some Moda M14 wheels. I'm too vain to run steel rims on my new wrx. Just not a fan of the look and since they will be used 4 - 6 months out of the year it wanted the car to look good, at least to me.

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Old 10-10-2012, 10:20 AM   #19
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Oh well thank you. Have you tried typing in a search engine for what you were looking for? No you didn't did you? You people make me sick. Btw enjoy your short stay here. I hope you find what you're looking for
I did try searching Nasioc and a i searched Google and still came up with the same number 2 that you suggested. What did i do to you? If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. You make me sick ya jack a$$! By the way, do you own a Subaru? Your profile states you drive a 11 Hyundai Silver. Maybe you should be on NAHOC.

For everyone else who helped this newbie out i thank you very very much because i did find what i was looking for. Thanks for nothing STIGuy023.

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Just to prove my point. Just hours before your thread. Hope you find this helpful

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2418184
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:53 AM   #21
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My main concern was dry pavement driving. There have been winters here where it has only snowed a few inches for the whole winter.

I think i'm going to go with stock size 17" Dunlop Graspic DS-3 (Studless Ice & Snow) on some Moda M14 wheels. I'm too vain to run steel rims on my new wrx. Just not a fan of the look and since they will be used 4 - 6 months out of the year it wanted the car to look good, at least to me.
I have the ds-3, not a bad tire but not great. It's quieter than the average winter tire but you lose a small amount of grip. Not enough to make any difference really, but just something to think about. I'd get the Altimax if I was in the market.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:57 AM   #22
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Just to prove my point. Just hours before your thread. Hope you find this helpful

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2418184
You're late, I already linked it.

And still confused why OP won't fill out his profile. I know helping us out by stating make, model, year and location is too hard to ask when asking for help.
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:29 PM   #23
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You're late, I already linked it.

And still confused why OP won't fill out his profile. I know helping us out by stating make, model, year and location is too hard to ask when asking for help.
Why is it so confusing? Maybe i just don't want to. I wouldn't be honest anyway. I personally don't think it's very smart posting personal information of any sort on public forums or social sites.

It seems like your jacking on me when you state "I know helping us out by stating make, model, year and location is too hard to ask when asking for help"

Is it too hard to read the orginal post and understand it when posting help??

In my original post i wrote, "I have a 2012 wrx with stock summer tires"

I think that covers make, model, year and current tire set up, does it not?

Then i wrote, "Snowfall varies from a half inch to a foot or more. Roads are always plowed during and after storms when they occur. Temps on average are below freezing mid November through mid March and at times below zero."

Is that confusing somehow to you?? Do i really need to put a city and state? I think what i wrote covers my location but for S&G's i'm in Iowa City, IA.

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Old 10-10-2012, 02:00 PM   #24
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TIL people from iowa are dicks.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:21 PM   #25
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TIL people from iowa are dicks.
I don't like to call anyone a dick, other than people named Richard.

I always thought people from Iowa were Idiots Out Wandering Around.
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