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Old 10-16-2012, 10:01 AM   #1526
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As predicted at 3000km on the nut, oil light. So that's three lights in the first 10000km (first scheduled oil change)
My dealer has started the oil consumption test so we will see how much exactly how much is truly being consumed. My only beef is this is my 5th Subaru, and have never even had to think about oil. I suggested to the Service Manager if this car is somehow ok, that they should consider selling the car with a case of oil. Will let you know what the outcome is.
You have exactly the same consumption figures as my car (my first light was at 3306km, then 62XXkm then 9200km at which point I had it changed.)

They are now doing a "consumption test" which is complete BS since they've overfilled the ***** out of it (at least an inch above the full mark on the ridiculous & useless dipstick).

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:46 AM   #1527
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Seems that soa must have sent a bulletin out...
Consumption Tests are being FUDGED! SOA is just trying to sweep it all under a rug.
You Cannucks are having the same results as I am.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:07 AM   #1528
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Seems that soa must have sent a bulletin out...
Consumption Tests are being FUDGED! SOA is just trying to sweep it all under a rug.
You Cannucks are having the same results as I am.
I personally don't think they are purposely trying to "fudge" the results. I think they are just unaware of the max capacity. That being said, you can do one of two things: 1) Tell them that they over filled it and have them take some oil out 2) Have them mark the location of the oil where it sits now and have them document the RO to indicate the overfill.

While you are not happy with SOA and their handling of your car, I don't think there is a conspiracy towards you or any owners. They have their threshold for consumption which your car doesn't meet. I'm not saying that it's cool that your car is consuming oil, but they are following guidance on what is deemed to be acceptable.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:30 AM   #1529
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You're assuming that the gauge of the dipstick remains constant after the full mark.
In my case, I brought it to the service mgr"s attention on ALL THREE overfills. The long "they all burn oil" speech, and the fact that they wouldn't allow the Consumption Test to be PROPERLY done makes me think they just don't care. IE- they just want to quetly sweep it under the rug. They're hiding problems in hopes of continuing their rapid sales growth.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #1530
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is this overfilling issue happening everywhere or are certain dealers just really bad at their jobs?
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:31 PM   #1531
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The best and worst dealers in my area both GROSSLY over-filled mine. And after I EXPRESSLY told them to "please make sure to use EXACTLY 5.3 quarts". From where I'm sitting, there isn't a dealer within any feasable driving distance that has not over filled my oil.
You folks know that both dealers I've used have been on here. The last dealer visit- it was WELL UNDERSTOOD what was going on with my car, and lo and behold- an inch and a quarter above the dipstick. And a receipt that says 6qts 0w30. Sooooooooo I don't know what to think anymore other than I'm stuck with an oil burning pos car.
And I was VERY polite to both dealers. That last visit- I even brought them donuts!
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #1532
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If you at all care about your car never let a dealer change the oil. That's the lesson I've learned.
That, and soa suck if you actually have a legitimate concearn. They're a public image and marketing machine. Sure- those dog-filled lovey-dovey commercials are all warm and fuzzy, subaru is a CARING company... Lmfao! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I'd like my $250 aspca donation back for oil, thank you!!!!
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:46 PM   #1533
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ugh. well it will be some time before I actually need an oil change so maybe they will have sorted this out by then.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:29 PM   #1534
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Just do it yourself, especially if everything is fine and normal with the car. Its super easy, and you will never have to worry about some idiot pouring unknown amounts of unknown oil into your brand new car.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:29 PM   #1535
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is this overfilling issue happening everywhere or are certain dealers just really bad at their jobs?
A friend of mine is a head tech at a dealer (which I deemed too far from my home, so that.s why I didn't go. Will go now after the "consumption test" is done at my dealer)

At his place, he confirms to me that they NEVER overfill not even one drop. When I mentioned that to him and showed him the pictures of my dipstick readings after the oil change, he went ballistic and even wanted to call my dealer's service mgr to give him hell.
Bear in mind, it his the same place where they have changed rings and swapped engines on Imp. & Foresters with the new engines. (Not many, but it's happened he told me.)

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Old 10-16-2012, 03:53 PM   #1536
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Judging from my experience with soa and dealers, I'LL be swapping engines...
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:54 PM   #1537
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I take it the folks with swapped rings and engines AREN'T forum members. According to some, if your engine burns oil, you HAVE to be on the forum!
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:20 PM   #1538
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Just do it yourself, especially if everything is fine and normal with the car. Its super easy, and you will never have to worry about some idiot pouring unknown amounts of unknown oil into your brand new car.
with the filter on top that certainly makes it easier. I just hate having to deal with collecting the oil and getting rid of it if someone will do it for free. I also kind of figure that they'll be looking for issues to fix at the dealer and I have no problem with them finding issues while the car is under warranty.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:22 PM   #1539
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with the filter on top that certainly makes it easier. I just hate having to deal with collecting the oil and getting rid of it if someone will do it for free. I also kind of figure that they'll be looking for issues to fix at the dealer and I have no problem with them finding issues while the car is under warranty.
Put it in the empty bottles of oil and then you can take it to any Auto Store and they will accept it for free. Walmart also does this.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:12 PM   #1540
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I've mentioned my low coolant level to two dealers, neither even bothered to look for leaks during the 7500 and 15000 mi services. Its not raining, and I have nothing to do, so I think I'm gonna go pop off the underside splash guard and look for any obvious signs of leakage.
Taking the bull by the horns...




A brand-new VW dealer is just opening up literally about 1/8 mile from my front door. I pass it (and the dubious B Bryan) every day on my way to and from work.
One of the things I always hated about VW's was driving to Orlando for the closest dealership...
Of course, my faith in VW isn't what it used to be. Ford Focus and Fiesta are both appealing small cars to me as well.
Will probably try to get out of this pos next year, hopefully.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:28 PM   #1541
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I've mentioned my low coolant level to two dealers, neither even bothered to look for leaks during the 7500 and 15000 mi services. Its not raining, and I have nothing to do, so I think I'm gonna go pop off the underside splash guard and look for any obvious signs of leakage.
Taking the bull by the horns...




A brand-new VW dealer is just opening up literally about 1/8 mile from my front door. I pass it (and the dubious B Bryan) every day on my way to and from work.
One of the things I always hated about VW's was driving to Orlando for the closest dealership...
Of course, my faith in VW isn't what it used to be. Ford Focus and Fiesta are both appealing small cars to me as well.
Will probably try to get out of this pos next year, hopefully.
focus is a nice car. my main complaint is it feels a little claustrophobic compared to the impreza. the sills are pretty high.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:48 PM   #1542
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No leaks of oil or coolant were evident. I gave it a GOOD look. The castings on the lower portions of the engine are the cheapest crap I've seen in a while. Chinese scooters come with nicer castings than what I saw. Its literally raw, rough casting.
But- no leaks that I can see. The tiny little oil pan is funny knowing that this holds as much oil as some big-block V8's.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:51 PM   #1543
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No leaks of oil or coolant were evident. I gave it a GOOD look. The castings on the lower portions of the engine are the cheapest crap I've seen in a while. Chinese scooters come with nicer castings than what I saw. Its literally raw, rough casting.
But- no leaks that I can see. The tiny little oil pan is funny knowing that this holds as much oil as some big-block V8's.
Did you put in the 5w30 yet
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:23 PM   #1544
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No that'll be in a week or two.
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The castings on the lower portions of the engine are the cheapest crap I've seen in a while. Chinese scooters come with nicer castings than what I saw. Its literally raw, rough casting.

You bought a vehicle that starts in the 17k dollar range. Did you expect everything to be a work of art? Not happening at that price point. You will need to spend close to 80k to get that.

your expectations amaze me.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:14 PM   #1546
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I'd like my $250 aspca donation back for oil, thank you!!!!
That $250 didn't come out of your pocket, it came out of SOA's per your designation. There's nothing to give back to you.

I personally have had nothing but good experiences with SOA & I have had 3 warranty issues, all resolved by a great dealer coupled with SOA assistance. & a company that allows me to designate both a $500 & a $250 donation to a charity of my choice I can easily stand behind.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:31 PM   #1547
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The side bolster on my mom's 2012 Impreza just popped today. When I say popped, it sounded like a balloon popped. Now the left side of the driver's seat side bolster has no support and you can feel the metal frame of the seat. All I did was push against the seat a little to get into my pocket. Seems pretty cheap quality on that one. My mom is gonna have to bring it in and have them look at it.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:22 AM   #1548
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Yes- reaching into pockets will cause all sorts of popping, springy-feeling sensations.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:42 AM   #1549
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Hi there 79letour,since you have checked for leaks and found none I can think of 3 ways you could be loosing oil.Being that you know your oil was over filled more than once I'll start with the most likely.When the oil is over filled it usually causes the engine oil system to be over pressurized and pushes oil past seals and gaskets.It could be the valve guide seals have been damaged and allowing oil into the combustion chamber.It could also be an internal head gasket leak as another result of over filling the oil.

EOC can also be caused by bad piston rings.If your lucky this is your problem because it's much easier to diagnose and provide hard evidence that your engine truly is defective.Do a cylinder compression/leak down test to determine the health of the rings.

First EOC and now weak seat bolsters.I hope they ironed these problems out for the 2013 MY.Why?Because my mother just bought a 2013 impreza premium wagon with CVT 2 weeks ago.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:47 AM   #1550
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Damn, my seat squeak has returned with a vengeance.
At 5'10" and fairly slim, I find the seats to be a joke. They're fragile, uncomfortable, and reallly seem like they belong on a KIA.
My drivers side is where ALL my rattles and noises come from. The speaker grille on the dash, the steering column, the seat, the passenger rear door panel.
Being that there is rubber under the hooks where the spring attatches to the seatframe, I think its just the crappy spring design that's causing the squeak.
I wish this car didn't consume oil, and possibly coolant. And I wish swapping seats was an option. At all.
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