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Old 10-22-2012, 09:29 AM   #26
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extended warranties... seem pretty pointless tbh i feel like they want you to pay for it, then they look for any reason not to fix anything in the suby world, even with a normal warranty

ex: when my rear end started to click while driving they wouldn't replace it under warranty, car had 20k on it at the time, yea i did take it to the strip a few times but hell... thats what these cars where made for, to have fun with. and i didn't even tell them i took it to the track either the problem didn't happen right away either, it took time. but im guessing because i was 19 at the time they figured they wouldn't cover it and blame me for abuse
You should look into a Lotus. Now THOSE are made for the track (plus they'll help you out if you break something while tracking it)
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:16 AM   #27
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If you get a new STi, It won't be the STi everybody knows anymore..
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:01 AM   #28
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When you change your oil for the first time at 3000 miles, go with a good 0w40 synthetic oil (T6), a Subaru oil filter, and for the heck of it, install a magnectic oil drain bolt (Dimple).

4) Get a tune as soon as the engine is broken in...the stock tune is crap. A good starting point is a Cobb AP.
T6 comes in only one weight, it's 5w40. Neither that nor 0w40 is what Subaru *requires* for these cars, so keep that in mind if you want to be covered for any engine claims.

I don't understand why people still buy AccessPorts for ~$700 to run a generic tune instead of having a local tuner tune it for a few hundred bucks.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:10 AM   #29
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4) Get a tune as soon as the engine is broken in...the stock tune is crap. A good starting point is a Cobb AP.
This is a good example of what not to do.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:13 AM   #30
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This is a good example of what not to do.
Why is that?
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:14 AM   #31
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NE? Park it somewhere safe until your snow tires arrive.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:37 AM   #32
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NE? Park it somewhere safe until your snow tires arrive.
It's 65 degrees today.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:38 AM   #33
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It's 65 degrees today.
He said he put a down payment on it, so I'm assuming it isn't going to be there for a bit. What was the temp a couple days ago?
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:39 AM   #34
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T6 comes in only one weight, it's 5w40. Neither that nor 0w40 is what Subaru *requires* for these cars, so keep that in mind if you want to be covered for any engine claims.
My bad...I meant Shell Rotella 5w40. I have read good things about Mobil 1 0w40 synthetic as well.

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I don't understand why people still buy AccessPorts for ~$700 to run a generic tune instead of having a local tuner tune it for a few hundred bucks.
Who the heck pays $700 for a Cobb AP? And who pays only a few hundred dollars for a protune?



You can get an AP for $549 or less these days w/free shipping, and it's nice to go back to the stock tune anytime you want to.

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Old 10-22-2012, 11:43 AM   #35
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This is a good example of what not to do.
Clearly you've been hiding under a rock and have not seen the 2012 STI stock tune results on a dyno chart.


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Old 10-22-2012, 12:59 PM   #36
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You can do better than that with M@ for 1/3 the price.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:16 PM   #37
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The newer STi's love a good tune Even the COBB dyno graph shows how bad they knock stock (at 4200 and 5500 in that graph)


$350 dyno tuned / $200 Street tuned

The only thing I strongly advise with a new car is that keeping the revs under 4k or whatever is silly, thats not how to break in a motor. Avoid constant RPM, decel in gear, avoid full load (but give it some load and rev it out). Do the first oil change early (like 1k miles) and switch to a quality oil like Rotella T6 or Motul 8100.

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Old 10-22-2012, 01:58 PM   #38
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The only thing I strongly advise with a new car is that keeping the revs under 4k or whatever is silly, thats not how to break in a motor.

-Wicked M@
Not to start an argument, and I certainly don't know Subarus as much as you guys, but why would the engineers who designed the Subaru 2.5L motor state a break-in of < 4000 rpms for 3000 miles?
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:05 PM   #39
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no idea. maybe to dissuade people from going out and hammering on them out of the lot? I cant think of any good reason to keep the revs down, especially for that long.

When you break in a motor you want heat and friction, you essentially are trying to seat the rings, and clear out assembly lube and any metal bits.

Why would subaru engineeers tune the car so it knocks twice on every pull? Or put pistons in that are prone to failure? I question their motives
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #40
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Not to start an argument, and I certainly don't know Subarus as much as you guys, but why would the engineers who designed the Subaru 2.5L motor state a break-in of < 4000 rpms for 3000 miles?
Where does it say this?
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:18 PM   #41
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I put boost into the motor after 100 miles. Amount of boost and how far I wind it out is varied and done in stages.
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:19 PM   #42
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Where does it say this?
i believe its in the manual that comes with the car lol, but dont quote me on that since i lost the manual that came with my 05
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:31 PM   #43
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i believe its in the manual that comes with the car lol, but dont quote me on that since i lost the manual that came with my 05
You are correct...it's in the owners manual...and it's 1000 miles not 3000 miles.

I had oil change interval on my brain.

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Old 10-22-2012, 03:23 PM   #44
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Air fuel ratio in the stock tune = making the epa happy, even though it will not make you happy. That is so glaring!
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:20 PM   #45
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Air fuel ratio in the stock tune = making the epa happy, even though it will not make you happy. That is so glaring!
Yep, I've been considering a used STI hatch for a daily next year but would immediately get it tuned. Almost want to avoid that motor altogether...
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:42 PM   #46
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Who the heck pays $700 for a Cobb AP? And who pays only a few hundred dollars for a protune?



You can get an AP for $549 or less these days w/free shipping, and it's nice to go back to the stock tune anytime you want to.
OK, AP for $550, custom tune for $200. I don't see any value in going back to the stock map, but if that works for you, cool. Tough to see that "feature" being worth $350. BTW, Protune is a Cobb thing, still involves using the AP.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:15 PM   #47
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Yep, I've been considering a used STI hatch for a daily next year but would immediately get it tuned. Almost want to avoid that motor altogether...


Doug. How about an '11 wrx hatch... special price just for you!


Anywoo.. I have a tactrix cable and bought a tune. It works great but I'm sure there's some fine tuning that could be done. Ymmv
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:37 PM   #48
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OK, AP for $550, custom tune for $200. I don't see any value in going back to the stock map, but if that works for you, cool. Tough to see that "feature" being worth $350. BTW, Protune is a Cobb thing, still involves using the AP.
an Accessport can save your ECU if you ever get in trouble with a frozen map, it's gotten much better nowadays.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:18 PM   #49
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Doug. How about an '11 wrx hatch... special price just for you!


Anywoo.. I have a tactrix cable and bought a tune. It works great but I'm sure there's some fine tuning that could be done. Ymmv
Ohh, heated seats too?! And I even like the color. Although it's no Alpine White...

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Old 10-23-2012, 08:57 AM   #50
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OK, AP for $550, custom tune for $200. I don't see any value in going back to the stock map, but if that works for you, cool.
Psssst...when you take your car in to the dealership for warranty work



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People use the verbiage "protune" all the time here on this site for a custom tune.
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