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Old 11-05-2012, 02:43 PM   #226
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Also, you may want to see your doctor about a prescription for Xanax or some other type of relaxant.
Says the guy who has started and fanned a flame war about someone else's car and engine.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:54 PM   #227
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I started a flame war? I'm just trying to make people aware of the smoke and mirrors show that's going on here. But I guess what they say is true. Where there's smoke, there's a fire (flame).

There are two issues I have.
1. Saying the bent wrist pins and rod end bushing damage are due to too much power.
2. This recent discussion about the burned bucket.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:28 PM   #228
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OK, if the car never left the garage then I apologize for assuming as such. However, you did flash a map on the car and were the first one to start it. The responsibility of cam break in rests on the one who firsts starts the car. That was you.
Shouldn't the shop be responsible for cam breakin, engine breakin, and oil change etc? I was asked to come flash the car so that it could be broken in and driven by the shop, that is exactly what i did. You weren't there, did you read that in the library too?

On top of that, Adam's car has been running great with no issues...

It is always easiest to blame the tuner!

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I started a flame war? I'm just trying to make people aware of the smoke and mirrors show that's going on here. But I guess what they say is true. Where there's smoke, there's a fire (flame).

There are two issues I have.
1. Saying the bent wrist pins and rod end bushing damage are due to too much power.
2. This recent discussion about the burned bucket.
Smoke and mirrors? We had a bucket failure in Dave's engine and tore down the motor to make sure nothing else was hurt and are replacing anything in question.

Back on topic...

I talked to Dave at Headgames today and he said that the few bucket failures he had were caused by one of two things.

1. The cam was faulty (both of which he had were Kelfords I believe)

2. The surface finish on the used OEM buckets was not acceptable. As soon as the bucket is scuffed it won't last long.

I'm not sure if Dave's bucket failed for one or both of these reason. Either way, we know what to look for in the future and keep and eye on it!

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Old 11-05-2012, 03:30 PM   #229
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Says the guy who has started and fanned a flame war about someone else's car and engine.
Whats up Lance!!!! :-)
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:30 PM   #230
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Says the guy who has started and fanned a flame war about someone else's car and engine.
Thank you lance!

All I have been trying to do is document my build so other may be able to learn something from my build, reasoning for doing things the way we have and the obstacles that we have to work through...
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:35 PM   #231
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MRF582 at some point you have to just give up. Even if you were right at this point you just look a douche bag... kinda like you did years ago in Xdrians 18g thread. Just give it up already.

We get it, you are an Engineer and smarter then everyone. We also understand you have built and seen issues like this in your own record setting Subarus. We have seen all the valuable information and help you have added to these boards since 2003

I will apologize for all of us for arguing with you, we should know better.

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Old 11-05-2012, 03:36 PM   #232
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I started a flame war? I'm just trying to make people aware of the smoke and mirrors show that's going on here. But I guess what they say is true. Where there's smoke, there's a fire (flame).

There are two issues I have.
1. Saying the bent wrist pins and rod end bushing damage are due to too much power.
2. This recent discussion about the burned bucket.
Your point is valid and has been made. Now take a deep breath and turn your focus towards things under your control This dude made it clear that money's not really an issue, he is confident with the people he has working on the car and they are all working hard and speaking with multiple well-informed parties to alleviate future risk. I say party on to them.

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Whats up Lance!!!! :-)
What up pardner. Glad to hear the car will be back in business soon. Lemme know if you have any software questions
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:38 PM   #233
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Shouldn't the shop be responsible for cam breakin, engine breakin, and oil change etc?
Camshaft break-in occurs within the 1st 20 mins of operation so the person who first starts the car is responsible.
Rest of the engine breakin, oil change, yes, the shop is responsible.

That's just my opinion. I guess we can just agree to disagree on that.

Anyway, good luck with the next engine.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:53 PM   #234
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Ehhh ^ things happen. Especially with high powered subarus. It's part of the game. Who cares if the shop did it or it was a cam failure.

The op is confident in his ppl and the build is moving along.

Quite honestly id rather have a good friend/ or someone from a shop that i like and trust do work for me than some doucher. Even if the person I used messed something up. Not that he did or didn't. If everything went perfect all the time Everyone would make great power.

However that's not the case!! Keep the updates coming op
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:57 PM   #235
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MRF582 at some point you have to just give up. Even if you were right at this point you just look a douche bag... kinda like you did years ago in Xdrians 18g thread. Just give it up already.

We get it, you are an Engineer and smarter then everyone. We also understand you have built and seen issues like this in your own record setting Subarus. We have seen all the valuable information and help you have added to these boards since 2003

I will apologize for all of us for arguing with you, we should know better.

Jr
Well said sir!

Thanks for the reference to Dave over at Headgames also, I spent 30mins on the phone with him today. Very knowledgeable and a real stand up guy!

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Old 11-05-2012, 03:58 PM   #236
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What up pardner. Glad to hear the car will be back in business soon. Lemme know if you have any software questions
Thanks for all the support Lance! Your the man!

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:05 PM   #237
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Heh... Rem the cam and buckets, no break in required.
But in all seriousness nate, I'll give you contact info for the rem work, so that you can get whatever you need done while I'm off at school.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:14 PM   #238
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It lives!

Big update coming soon when I have a chance to get on the laptop!
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:12 PM   #239
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Finally got around to the laptop to do this...

The Sti Is Back Up And Running!

After a long rebuilding process of planning a course of action, getting new parts, refreshing the engine and piecing everything back to together,
everything has paid off and the car is better than ever!

To start things off, we got the longblock assembled after the internals were refreshed with new bearings, heads and block decked, ARP case bolts installed, main bore honed, heads clearanced for new higher lift camshafts, new Ferrea valvetrain installed, etc.


Then we had to install the timing components and ran into a slight problem...
Since the block/ heads had been decked, the timing belt was between 1/2 & 1 tooth off so i purchased 2 Crawford Performance
"cam timing adjuster" pulleys to take care of the problem and timing is perfect!


Next order of business:
I wanted to clean up my engine harness so removed the unused connectors and try my best to hide the harness in the engine bay!

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Old 11-16-2012, 04:12 PM   #240
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After finishing up the wiring harness clean up, we bolted up all possible pieces that could be installed
before putting the engine in the car so we would have as little as possible to install when installed!



After installing the engine, all that was left was to install the additional parts such as exhaust manifold, up-pipe, turbo, down-pipe,
intercooler piping, Element Tuning catch can, radiator, etc then we performed the 20 min. @ 2k RPM "cam break-in" procedure
then immediately changed the oil with fresh Brad Penn 20W50 "Racing Oil" which will be used throughout the life of the engine!

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Old 11-16-2012, 04:13 PM   #241
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Check out the "semi-finished" finished product!




By semi-finished, we are still finalizing and fabricating some parts for the car for the fuel system,
mounting the FPR & catch can, and tuning on the mustang dyno after everything is completed!

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:46 PM   #242
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do you have any more pics of the wiring before you put the intake manifold on? Thinking about doing the same to my car.

That your pink bus also??
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:17 AM   #243
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do you have any more pics of the wiring before you put the intake manifold on? Thinking about doing the same to my car.

That your pink bus also??
That's the pink party bus!

Stripper pole, 50 person capacity, only $99/hr!!!
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:37 AM   #244
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do you have any more pics of the wiring before you put the intake manifold on? Thinking about doing the same to my car.

That your pink bus also??
I think I have a few more wiring pics on my laptop so I'll check! It is pretty easy, just take your time following the proper wires and it's s piece of cake!

Definitely trying to rent out the pink party bus sometime soon! If we hire a midget stripper is it half the price of a normal stripper?
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:27 AM   #245
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lots of us have done this, its a bit of work, but if you want, and un-wanted wires like tgv motors and sensors and all other trimmed down, its worth it




Car its going on, Phatron's


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Old 11-18-2012, 11:52 AM   #246
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lots of us have done this, its a bit of work, but if you want, and un-wanted wires like tgv motors and sensors and all other trimmed down, its worth it
Took me about 3hrs total to unwrap, cut out unneeded sensors and put it back together... while having a few beers at the same time!

I did not de-pin the wires from the harness main connector... I left about 4 inches of wire and/or cut at the "common" wherever it is in the harness so I could easily reinstall the connectors if ever needed (although highly unlikely lol)!
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I think I have a few more wiring pics on my laptop so I'll check! It is pretty easy, just take your time following the proper wires and it's s piece of cake!
LOL...I knew its a piece of cake, just wondering how much cleaner it really looks
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:44 PM   #248
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LOL...I knew its a piece of cake, just wondering how much cleaner it really looks
It does make it a little bit cleaner without seeing all those unused connectors in the engine bay!
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:13 PM   #249
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Beautifull parts, car and build, no question about it, but I am not very impressed by the powerband tbh: only 120 hp at 4K rpm?!
And a powerband of only 1000 rpm (5250-6250) ?
Somehow the combination of cams and turbo seems off to me compared to lots of other builds here in PPB.
First post on this board!!!

You must be jealous as *** eh!!!!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:29 AM   #250
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First post on this board!!!

You must be jealous as *** eh!!!!
Haha he didn't read that I ran out of fuel so we couldn't rev any higher but that is all being taken care of now ;-)
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