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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 206332
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: In a tent
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Westchester Cnty, NY
Vehicle:'11 WRX Ltd Nav 4dr Lightning Red |
Well it is always sad to see an automotive company fall but this was not unexpected.
Outside of the Kizashi they didn't make anything compelling. The Swift would have been better than the SX4 but that didnt happen. And I can't remember the last time I saw a Suzuki dealership. Mitsubishi is next... |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 9481
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: FFR Challenge #43
Vehicle:2011 Carrera 4s 2009 BMW M5 |
If they had brought a proper Swift GTi back, this wouldnt have happened!!
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 120244
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Everett, WA
Vehicle:2006 Legacy SE Sedan 2006 Pilot EX-L 4WD |
I would imagine a fair amount of Suzuki buyers will end up in Subaru showrooms.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 265433
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Most inexpensive new AWD vehicle title just got switched out from Suzuki.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 120244
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Everett, WA
Vehicle:2006 Legacy SE Sedan 2006 Pilot EX-L 4WD |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 202642
Join Date: Nov 2007
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Centennial, Colorado
Vehicle:'08 2.5i,'65 Stang '80 Vette L82,'73 914 2.0 |
It is a shame to lose another brand but it just shows how competitive the car market is in America and Suzuki couldn't do enough.
While the SX4 Crossover was good, it didn't evolve into the proper CUV it should have been for America. It did offer some unique styling and AWD but wasn't compelling enough to compete with the market Subaru and others offered. The SX4 SportBack and sedan didn't offer really anything different and should have been replaced with the Swift, a name familiar with Americans. The Kizashi brought some hope of things to come with a good looking car with AWD but nothing else evolved from there. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 265433
Join Date: Nov 2010
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As far as prices of AWD vehicles go, unless Fiat tries to go AWD, I don't think any one else is on Subaru's pricing level. American brands seem to tack on more to the MSRP for AWD, Japanese brands and Korean are no different. Subaru is the only one with standard AWD so it goes without saying their MSRP is about to look really good to a lot of people now (at least the ones who even considered Suzuki). I don't see many SX4's in Colorado. I see more Mitsubushi's than Suzuki's here. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 120244
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Everett, WA
Vehicle:2006 Legacy SE Sedan 2006 Pilot EX-L 4WD |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 194216
Join Date: Nov 2008
Chapter/Region:
W. Canada
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:2013 STI Sport-tech |
No way. Mitsubishi sales are actually up 61% over last year (fastest-growing mass-market automaker in the U.S.) as they are going back to what they are good at in smaller cars and SUV's rather than try to tackle the Accord and Camry market which has been impenetrable. The Outlander Sport for example has been a huge success. I wouldn't be surprised to see Mitsubishi Motors trend up in the next decade.
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NASIOC Supporter
Member#: 692
Join Date: Dec 1999
Chapter/Region:
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Vehicle:2006 Pontiac GTO M6 2008 Ninja 250R |
Suzuki has had some decent products but never really did enough.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 202642
Join Date: Nov 2007
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Centennial, Colorado
Vehicle:'08 2.5i,'65 Stang '80 Vette L82,'73 914 2.0 |
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http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/pub...etail0860.html Last edited by subyski; 11-06-2012 at 01:06 AM. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 334451
Join Date: Oct 2012
Chapter/Region:
VIC
Location: YVR
Vehicle:2013 Impreza2.0i CVT DGM (sedan) |
FWIW, Lemon Aid had already been ringing Mitsubishi's death knell the last year or two, at least for the Canadian market.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 120244
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Everett, WA
Vehicle:2006 Legacy SE Sedan 2006 Pilot EX-L 4WD |
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I guess Outlander Sport's doing OK, but I wouldn't exactly call it a huge success. It's Mitsu's top US seller, and XV Crosstrek is already outselling it. October sales: Crosstrek 1735 Outlander Sport 1675 I think new CX-5 & Forester will further stymie any Mitsubishi marketshare growth. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 284761
Join Date: Jun 2011
Vehicle:2012 WRX |
I liked the Kizashi and there were rumor a while back of a turbo awd version. Never happened though.
Suzuki really made no effort to gain sales so this come as to no surprise. Quote:
Why are people nostalgic for a 100hp hatchback with a motorcycle engine? |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 9481
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region:
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Location: FFR Challenge #43
Vehicle:2011 Carrera 4s 2009 BMW M5 |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Just outside of Houston TX
Vehicle:2013 Golf R 1971 240Z |
What no bailout for Suzuki?
Ba Da da.... ting... |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 334126
Join Date: Oct 2012
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: New Jersey
Vehicle:2013 5mt Sp Premium Venetian Red & Dark Gray |
:_( AWD world just got a bit smaller
RIP |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 32113
Join Date: Jan 2003
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Trollhatten, Japan
Vehicle:05 Saabaru Satin Grey |
The SX4 was a decent little car when it came out, but the field moved on VERY quickly and Suzuki couldn't keep up. And I think comparing Kizashi to A4 just confused people and the few A4 buyers would have been turned off just looking at the dealership in a drive by.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 194216
Join Date: Nov 2008
Chapter/Region:
W. Canada
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:2013 STI Sport-tech |
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However doesn't change the fact that they are getting their act together and sales have been up. Not sure why but people have been calling Mitsubishi to pull out of the US for over a decade and it never comes to fruition. Mitsubishi Corporation is so large and makes so much money it almost seems like they don't care if Mitsubishi Motors North America makes money or not but they keep it going and have never, ever entertained pulling out. Not sure why people would expect them to all of a sudden pull out now when they are trending up from the last decade. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 83633
Join Date: Mar 2005
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Zion
Vehicle:2012 bright green box |
I wonder how cheap I will be able to pick up an Equator for?
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 202642
Join Date: Nov 2007
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Centennial, Colorado
Vehicle:'08 2.5i,'65 Stang '80 Vette L82,'73 914 2.0 |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 84622
Join Date: Apr 2005
Chapter/Region:
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Location: -=OT B-Lister=-
Vehicle:2010 EVO X GSR 1992 MKIII Supra |
I have a feeling they sell cars thru GM again.
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the artiest
Moderator Member#: 4562
Join Date: Feb 2001
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Auburn, WA
Vehicle:1998 Forester,lifted 95 Legacy,75 VW Westfalia |
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Came into work this morning and got the news of Suzukis filing. Told my counter men no returns on anything Suzuki, special order or not. I know I'm going to catch flack for this ![]() |
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NASIOC Supporter
Member#: 159474
Join Date: Sep 2007
Chapter/Region:
AKIC
Location: East Anchorage (yuck!)
Vehicle:2013 BRZ Ltd 6MT CBS The Epic One |
My best buddy had a Kizashi AWD and that thing was niiiiice. It was a weird stage above the Impreza sedan, but below the Legacy, and still beyond them with things like seat position memory and such. It was a heavy sucker, though, and didn't even have 200HP to help compensate or live up to its sporty nature. It'll be sad to see it go.
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