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Old 11-06-2012, 07:25 AM   #26
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Nascar does race occasionally on road courses, and are set up for wet running on such tracks (wet oval racing would be suicide).



The developments in Aussie V8 and DTM make me very sad. What's the point of having different brands, if there is little to no difference in the cars?
not true, if two DTM cars have a soft contact on the track they both disintegrate
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:09 AM   #27
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V8 supercars is a good series.

who cares if they are not production based, not like anyone here will be competing or were watching it. Production or not still fun to watch and competitive.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:44 AM   #28
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They are production cars. Its a g8 Pontiac rebaged.

Good for Nissan for filling the huge gap that obama care left.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:59 AM   #29
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V8 supercars is a good series.

who cares if they are not production based, not like anyone here will be competing or were watching it. Production or not still fun to watch and competitive.
People like Scrappy and I, because they pretend that they are. If they called it the Nissan tube frame race spec chassis car, that would be fine. It's not an Altima any more than a NASCAR is a Camry. No argument on the racing itself. Just the misrepresentation.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:47 AM   #30
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Agreed, and the complete loss of racing technology being used to improve the passenger car. This is just racing for the sake of racing and deeply believe that racing should be a proving ground for cutting edge technology that can find its way into passenger cars.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:33 AM   #31
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Win on sunday, sell on monday. Average joe doesn't know its a tube frame. Its a Nissan Altma.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:39 AM   #32
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I will give the series some credit though, at least the powerplants are from the actual manufactures. This is being powered by the Nissan Motorsport VK56DE.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:46 AM   #33
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Agreed, and the complete loss of racing technology being used to improve the passenger car. This is just racing for the sake of racing and deeply believe that racing should be a proving ground for cutting edge technology that can find its way into passenger cars.
How so, racing technology does not have to come from development of a certain platform to trickle down to production cars.

F1 technology were seen in many production cars and everyone knows they don't actually sell F1 cars.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:47 AM   #34
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THe point is racing developed technology to put into its passenger cars.
What can possibly come from a V8 tube frame RWD race car that can benefit a CVT equipped V6 FWD full bodied sedan.
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THe point is racing developed technology to put into its passenger cars.
What can possibly come from a V8 tube frame RWD race car that can benefit a CVT equipped V6 FWD full bodied sedan.
A V8 and RWD would certainly benefit the V6 FWD sedan
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #36
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Pontiac did something similar with the awkward 5.3L 303hp FWD setup in the Pontiac Grand Prix GTP. Even more awkward was the reverse staggered wheel setup (18x8 front, 18x7 rear).
Awkward? Yes.

However, I applaud them for doing the right thing. Functionally, the car should have more tire up front.

An STi, or WRX, for that matter, technically should also be running more rubber up front given it's weight distribution.

But the public would rather have more understeer than be awkward I guess.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM   #37
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This is sad though, because it is yet another series going from Showroom Stock, or even Showroom Modified to yet another tube chassis series.
You watch it? It is AWESOME racing though. Really, really good stuff.
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No doubt the racing is good.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:57 AM   #39
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not true, if two DTM cars have a soft contact on the track they both disintegrate
I think you misunderstood his comment... he wasn't saying that DTM & Aussie V8s were like NASCAR.. he said there's too little differentiation between the cars of different makes in the same series (kinda like NASCAR).
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