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Old 11-07-2012, 07:35 PM   #1
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Event: Road Dyno
Location: Simpsonville, SC
Ambient Temp: 60
Elevation: 1000
Weather: clear
Track and Conditions: asphalt, clean, flat
Tires: 215/45r17 summer tires

Car: 07 WRX TR
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Dyno Info: VD
Transmission: 2011 STi
Gear: 4rd
Peak HP at RPM: 489whp @ 7351 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 447wtq @ 4800 RPM
Target Boost: 27psi tapering to 25
Target AFR: 11-11.5
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications: Wiseco forged pistons, 08+ STi rods, king bearings, BC 272 cams, stock valvetrain, Fully ported heads, FP Black IWG 9cm2, Hyperflow TMIC, Perrin headers, Perrin uppipe, Buschur Racing TBE, Hallman MBC , TGV deletes, phenolic spacers, , Walbro 460lph, Air Pump deletes
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:51 PM   #2
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Looking good, bro.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:59 PM   #3
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finally grew some balls to post results
Good stuff man! cant wait to see results!
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:11 PM   #4
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How's the 6 speed?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:21 PM   #5
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builds boost early for a turbo that size, nice!
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:33 PM   #6
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Nice, when do you think you will go to the track?
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:00 PM   #7
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noice!!

3 pretty fast cars in these last 3 posts, lol + reno's 2 post above that

juan, you should ditch those skinny stock tires with some 225-245's
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:22 PM   #8
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Looking good, bro.
Thanks Carmi

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finally grew some balls to post results
Good stuff man! cant wait to see results!
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How's the 6 speed?
I don't like the extra weight but it shifts better. The car feels like it handles way better for some reason; at least I don't have to worry about another transmission breaking

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builds boost early for a turbo that size, nice!
Yeap! a 68lb/min turbo hitting 27psi by 3960rpm, 20psi by 3740rpm, 15psi by 3500rpm

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Nice, when do you think you will go to the track?
Probably next year but I will go on kill mode, I am only running right now 21.5* of timing at redline which is 7500rpm.

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noice!!

3 pretty fast cars in these last 3 posts, lol + reno's 2 post above that

juan, you should ditch those skinny stock tires with some 225-245's
Thanks, so far I don't have any traction issues. I will get some better tires in the future.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:28 PM   #9
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Probably next year but I will go on kill mode, I am only running right now 21.5* of timing at redline which is 7500rpm.
Oh comon' Juan, a couple more degrees timing can't hurt anything!

jk, gotta be a blast to drive. Are you concerned about your rods?
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:12 AM   #10
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Looks real good. Thing spools real nice.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:18 AM   #11
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looks good! Does it seem like the Red did this awhile ago? Im asking because I just got a FP Red and have seen the same numbers, just asking not talking **** or anything.

and also 225/45/17 is the stock sti tire size, why go with the 215's?
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:07 AM   #12
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Oh comon' Juan, a couple more degrees timing can't hurt anything!

jk, gotta be a blast to drive. Are you concerned about your rods?
I was running 26* with my green... and I think thats what you all are running

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Looks real good. Thing spools real nice.
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looks good! Does it seem like the Red did this awhile ago? Im asking because I just got a FP Red and have seen the same numbers, just asking not talking **** or anything.

and also 225/45/17 is the stock sti tire size, why go with the 215's?
The FP black is only 3lb/min bigger than the red so power output is about the same. The black has a billet HTA wheel from the HTA35r/HTA82 and you can see that the black spools really good. I don't think you can find a FP red setup that will out spool mine.

The street tires that I have are hte lightest there is and it has really soft side walls, I have cut 1.6's with them and EVOs have cut 1.5's. My car is also a WRX it comes with 215s IIRC.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:24 AM   #13
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Looks great Juan! Can I ask why you havnt rotated yet? Is the boost taper on purpose or the small exhaust housing?
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:07 AM   #14
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God Juan, you just have power for days. Your spool makes me jealous. Thats just incredible. 27psi that early must feel amazing on the street.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:13 AM   #15
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Yeap! a 68lb/min turbo hitting 27psi by 3960rpm, 20psi by 3740rpm, 15psi by 3500rpm
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Probably next year but I will go on kill mode, I am only running right now 21.5* of timing at redline which is 7500rpm.
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The FP black is only 3lb/min bigger than the red so power output is about the same. The black has a billet HTA wheel from the HTA35r/HTA82 and you can see that the black spools really good. I don't think you can find a FP red setup that will out spool mine.
Yeah, this spool looks incredible for a turbo of this size. Looking at it a little more, the Virtual Dyno plot looks nearly identical to my recent ones, and your turbo flows 20lb/min more! That is amazing response for such a big turbo! What do you think it would make all out? How much would you increase the boost?

Here's my plot. The shape, the peaks, the spool, etc all look pretty much the same as yours!

http://www.benjohnsonphotography.com...5PvZSRL-XL.jpg

It's a ton of fun on the street, but with your car being a good 400-500lbs lighter than mine I'm sure it's even more fun!
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:33 AM   #16
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Be careful with those rods Juan. Remember what I told you when I was building it

If I were you, I would drop the timing at peak torque down to 8-10* to help with not snapping one of them.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:01 AM   #17
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Looks great Juan! Can I ask why you havnt rotated yet? Is the boost taper on purpose or the small exhaust housing?
I haven't go rotated because I been trying to keep my setup simple stupid and I don't like to change a ton of stuff at the same time. The boost taper is not on purpose is just the normal taper for a IWG turbo; I wish I was able to hold boost all the way to redline.

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God Juan, you just have power for days. Your spool makes me jealous. Thats just incredible. 27psi that early must feel amazing on the street.
thanks it feels really good

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Yeah, this spool looks incredible for a turbo of this size. Looking at it a little more, the Virtual Dyno plot looks nearly identical to my recent ones, and your turbo flows 20lb/min more! That is amazing response for such a big turbo! What do you think it would make all out? How much would you increase the boost?

Here's my plot. The shape, the peaks, the spool, etc all look pretty much the same as yours!

http://www.benjohnsonphotography.com...5PvZSRL-XL.jpg

It's a ton of fun on the street, but with your car being a good 400-500lbs lighter than mine I'm sure it's even more fun!
Thanks. I think my setup is so responsive because I am running a TMIC and the Perrin uppipe and headers have small ID diameter tubing and they are also ceramic coated.

I have seen FP reds make 560whp VD dynojet, I can increase timing a lot 5-6* and is running relatively rich. It hits 10.9 AFR in the midrage and 11.5 AFR at redline... I haven't had a chance to clean up the tune . As far as boost I have 625+ custom age head studs so I think I can run 30psi easy. Also If I go EWG it should give me good gains; I think this turbo can hit close to 600whp dynojet all out, 560whp realistically

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Be careful with those rods Juan. Remember what I told you when I was building it

If I were you, I would drop the timing at peak torque down to 8-10* to help with not snapping one of them.
yeap I am trying to keep torque down, I think timing at peak torque is set at 13-14* right now. I got another set of pistons and a case, I just need a good set of rods and it may go your way so you can built me another amazing short block .
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:15 AM   #18
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The spool looks deceptively good because you're using 4th gear ok the 07+ gearing on the street. That's a nice tall gear that will really spool up the turbo. What are the numbers like on the mustang VD setting?

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #19
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The spool looks deceptively good because you're using 4th gear ok the 07+ gearing on the street. That's a nice tall gear that will really spool up the turbo. What are the numbers like on the mustang VD setting?

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Compared to my 5-speed at the same speed it spools faster because of gearing....

If I dyno it in 3rd I bet it will hit 27psi by 4200rpm... which is still really good.

You did a road dyno for me with your software a while back and I think it made 430-440whp. I think it makes around 430whp on the mustang dyno settings, if I crank it up to the same parameters that your run on that STi GT35 Rotated, E85 - 473whp" that you just tune, my hp numbers should be the same with better spool and not droping power up top.

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:42 AM   #20
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The black has a billet HTA wheel from the HTA35r/HTA82 and you can see that the black spools really good. I don't think you can find a FP red setup that will out spool mine.
Agreed. Are you seeing any limitations with the tmic at this point? E85 helps. I'm sure you get asked this a lot and apologize a head of time. Looking good
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:43 AM   #21
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About 420-430whp sounds about right. Could you do a pull in 3rd? I'm curious to see where your torque peak would end up.

No doubt you have some nice spool from the TMIC, small header and hot side, but I think those will be quite a bit of restriction it you try to push it much more. You will run into MBT much earlier from the increased back pressure.

This would be better compared to the GTX3071 we built a while back that did 440whp on a TMIC at about 25psi. That car hit peak torque at 4k RPM in 4th gear on the dyno (07+ gearing).

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:57 AM   #22
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Agreed. Are you seeing any limitations with the tmic at this point? E85 helps. I'm sure you get asked this a lot and apologize a head of time. Looking good
As far as I know no! although I wan't to replace the TMIC with ETS core because my hyperflow TMIC fits like crap. Np

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About 420-430whp sounds about right. Could you do a pull in 3rd? I'm curious to see where your torque peak would end up.

No doubt you have some nice spool from the TMIC, small header and hot side, but I think those will be quite a bit of restriction it you try to push it much more. You will run into MBT much earlier from the increased back pressure.

This would be better compared to the GTX3071 we built a while back that did 440whp on a TMIC at about 25psi. That car hit peak torque at 4k RPM in 4th gear on the dyno (07+ gearing).

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Yeah I can get a 3rd gear plot, either tomorrow aftenoon or friday.
Agreed the hotside is the restriction right now. That GTX3071 was running a EWG which if I ever decide to get one will help a lot 15-25whp.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #23
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Juan what series block you running? 703?
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:49 PM   #24
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Is the same block that came with my 07 WRX, I imagine it is a 703
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:20 PM   #25
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Nice graph man! Looks good, LOL @ "Only" 21deg of timing!!
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