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Old 11-11-2012, 03:31 PM   #26
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Thanks guys, this is all super helpful stuff.....i think ive also got what i think is a boost creep issue on the stock tune... its becoming a more apparent issue.... upon acceleration its very hesitant before boosting any thoughts?
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:38 PM   #27
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I live like right next to surgeline in tigard oregon. ..... just saving up, then thinking about going and seeing those guys
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:40 PM   #28
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What exactly is happening? Like stuttering as it goes into boost?
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:44 PM   #29
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What exactly is happening? Like stuttering as it goes into boost?
Yes,exactly wtf is that?
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:33 PM   #30
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Fill out your profile first off.
Secondly, read UNABOMBERS MANIFESTO, it's a handy sticky located at the top of the Newbies and FAQS section.
Thirdly, how much power it can handle comes with far too many variables to answer. Your goal is 300 whp for 1000-15000 bucks, easily done. Research 4 times and buy just once.
And finally, if you live so close to a performance shop for Subaru's, why not give them a call and tell them your goals? They will give you the exact way to do it, and for a bonus you can ask about your problem and get a good answer.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:37 PM   #31
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I've got a 2009 too. My plans are dp, upgraded tmic, injectors, pump, tune. so far I've done an AP tune and am up 33hp from stock. the dp should get close to 300hp.

Injectors and pump for reliability. 268whp is at 88% IDC for me, so 300whp would put them very close to max. Possible to get 300whp with stock fueling, but not reliable.

the tmic serves two purposes 1 its stronger than the stock plastic that can hold anywhere from 18-22 before breaking depending on who u ask and 2 it can help compensate for running the turbo in a lower efficiency band in the higher rpms.

I wouldn't expected a modded car to be very reliable. just keep some money in the bank and order performance parts when the stock parts break.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:37 PM   #32
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Fill out your profile first off.
Secondly, read UNABOMBERS MANIFESTO, it's a handy sticky located at the top of the Newbies and FAQS section.
Thirdly, how much power it can handle comes with far too many variables to answer. Your goal is 300 whp for 1000-15000 bucks, easily done. Research 4 times and buy just once.
And finally, if you live so close to a performance shop for Subaru's, why not give them a call and tell them your goals? They will give you the exact way to do it, and for a bonus you can ask about your problem and get a good answer.
For sure man i could do that just looking for different opinions and discussion beforehand too alot of you guys are knowledgeable and have had similar experiences.....thanks bro.....
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #33
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Max power my 09 can handle? Reliability is extremely important to me..... its my dd and my first subie. Any suggestions or advice would be awesome.
Any car can "handle" any power with the right mods

That being said, torque becomes an issue with wrxs before power does
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:01 PM   #34
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I live like right next to surgeline in tigard oregon. ..... just saving up, then thinking about going and seeing those guys
This is some of the best advice in this whole thread (and you gave it to your self). Tim Bailey knows what he is talking about.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:11 PM   #35
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I'm at 300whp with aem cai and a cobb catted dp. Easy to get to those numbers!
With what kind of reliability? I am so tired of seeing these posts about an intake and downpipe hitting 300 AWHP, because it is not the entire story. Read the posts on these forums from unibomber.. Supporting mods are your friend... Do the research on the forums before you do anything. It will really save yourself some time and frustration..
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:13 PM   #36
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Yes,exactly wtf is that?
Could be a lot of things...

Accidentally filled with 87 octane?
Spark plugs getting fouled
Piston ringlands are shot (That's what mine started with)

Those are just 3 I thought of off the top of my head, there could be others. Regardless, if you haven't put 87 octane in, I'd have a compression test done and you may as well replace spark plugs while you're there.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:28 PM   #37
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Could be a lot of things...

Accidentally filled with 87 octane?
Spark plugs getting fouled
Piston ringlands are shot (That's what mine started with)

Those are just 3 I thought of off the top of my head, there could be others. Regardless, if you haven't put 87 octane in, I'd have a compression test done and you may as well replace spark plugs while you're there.
Nope always 92 as long as ive owned it i always get out and make sure lol and thanks that gives me a good pkace to start...
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:32 PM   #38
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Others may be able to chime in with other ideas...
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:15 PM   #39
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In my opinion, the typical 'stage 2' setup of a downpipe, catback, and tune is best for the money. 25% power increase for roughly $2000 total. That's not bad at all. And that's with name brand parts. Throw in the Cobb SF intake if you like too... assuming you're going with the Cobb AP.

That's approximately 330HP crank give or take. You're up to around 265 to the wheels. (In general, stage 2 upgrades take your stock crank HP and make it your new wheel HP... with different tunes, results will vary.)
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:19 PM   #40
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You must not be too familiar with the newer WRX's. He should be around 300whp with a downpipe, intake, and tune.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:27 PM   #41
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Smh 300whp out of a wrx with exhaust & tune? I wanna just take a guess & say the wrx barely makes 200whp from the factory if that due to the awd drivetrain loses bc the sti only puts down around 230whp stock! advertised hp is not at the wheels by any means. Just figured I'd try to help ya out(:
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:30 PM   #42
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Well seeing as the VF52 is almost exactly the same size as the STi turbo, it is almost completely in the tune.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:08 PM   #43
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Smh 300whp out of a wrx with exhaust & tune? I wanna just take a guess & say the wrx barely makes 200whp from the factory if that due to the awd drivetrain loses bc the sti only puts down around 230whp stock! advertised hp is not at the wheels by any means. Just figured I'd try to help ya out(:
From the dynos i've seen 09+ puts down between 220 and 230 stock depending on the dyno.... i hope the sti puts down more than that...
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:12 PM   #44
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09+ WRX's and STi's make almost the same power with the same mods. The tranny probably makes the biggest difference.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:19 PM   #45
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From the dynos i've seen 09+ puts down between 220 and 230 stock depending on the dyno.... i hope the sti puts down more than that...
It doesn't.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:32 PM   #46
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From the dynos i've seen 09+ puts down between 220 and 230 stock depending on the dyno.... i hope the sti puts down more than that...
I think you're confusing Sti numbers with WRX numbers...
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:37 PM   #47
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Surgelines dynos
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:42 PM   #48
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Theres a stock to stage 2 comparison look it up
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:55 PM   #49
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I think you're confusing Sti numbers with WRX numbers...
So you are saying that the STI has a drive-train loss of around 80+hp? or almost a 3rd.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:03 PM   #50
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Uncorrected low-reading dynos of STis can be in the 200-215whp range, so yeah.
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