What would you do ???

bugeye105 · 11-12-2012, 05:10 PM

So just shooting out a question, i have just under $1000 to spend right now on my car and im torn between two upgrades. I want to know what people out there would choose/see what comments people have on which would be recommended for my 2002 wrx

Option 1: Process West TMIC w/ splitter and hoses
or
Option 2: Tomei Extreme unequal length header w/ up pipe heat wrap etc...

my engine mods right now are:
custom made 3" turbo back (downpipe & catback)
Turboxs bov
Cobb short ram
gimmick postmaf
gimmick turbo inlet
mishimoto silicon lower radiator hose
walbro 255 fuel pump
cobb accessport stage 2

stock turbo
stock injectors
stock headers
stock uppipe
stock intercooler

I have not dyno'd it yet and i plan on it during the install of this next upgrade

any negative comments please keep them to yourselves

with the info given what would you do?

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Danthrax · 11-12-2012, 05:15 PM

Should do the up pipe while you're at it. Quicker spool and save the turbo in the long run.

Tonyturkey716 · 11-12-2012, 05:42 PM

Now I'm no pro and just giving my opinion as you asked but I would go with choice number two with the UP. While the PW is a great piece, you won't benefit much from it while being in the stock turbo.

Again just my feedback

Edit: once you go for an upgraded turbo then I say PW.

bugeye105 · 11-12-2012, 06:09 PM

great, thanks. thats what others have recommended too and i see you point. anyone else?

pimpin24 · 11-12-2012, 06:30 PM

Deffinatly option 2 it'll be the best bang for u buck right now

Napalm3nema · 11-12-2012, 06:34 PM

None of the above. Get swaybars + endlinks.

bugeye105 · 11-12-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napalm3nema

None of the above. Get swaybars + endlinks.

whats your reasoning on this

05subysti · 11-12-2012, 07:14 PM

tomei header and up pipe!

tommyson01 · 11-12-2012, 10:25 PM

Just the up pipe.

Then, spend some on your brakes and do the H6 rear up grade. I have to ask though, what are you goals for the car?

SparkSilver10NM · 11-12-2012, 10:41 PM

I vote the UP heat wrap and suspension bits. The reasoning is suspension parts make your car feel more fun, handle better, and are a long life upgrade that don't require tuning

BlackJavaPearl04 · 11-12-2012, 11:02 PM

I would go with EL headers...i made 30 more whp and tq with them

Badler · 11-12-2012, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJavaPearl04

I would go with EL headers...i made 30 more whp and tq with them

This or maintenance. 10 year old cars could use a refresh. Ie: bushings, belts, fluids, hoses, etc...

SubieLuvin · 11-13-2012, 12:02 AM

Honestly at your power level your not going to benefit that much from an aftermarket exhaust manifold. If I were you I would screw the process west tmic and just find a lightly used Sti one and with the money you save from over paying for the process west find a cheap cat less up pipe and Sti injectors as well... Then turn up the boost a bit. Sti intercoolers can handle more power than your stock block can. You can achieve all of this with under a grand if you play your cards right.

Most importantly before adding anymore power make sure the upkeep on the vehicle is up to date. People who chose a new turbo over a timing belt are retarded.

ChefRacer · 11-13-2012, 12:19 AM

I don't think either of those choices make much sense for your current setup ul headers are pretty much always a waste of money, el is the only bang for your buck, but those will push your powerband to the right and you already have a turbo that doesn't have much top end power. I'd say for $1000, get a used vf39, some sti injectors for $100, and an STI tmic... Then hope that you don't blow anything up. Btw, if you have that current setup without a real tune... You need to get one asap

ChefRacer · 11-13-2012, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubieLuvin

Honestly at your power level your not going to benefit that much from an aftermarket exhaust manifold. If I were you I would screw the process west tmic and just find a lightly used Sti one and with the money you save from over paying for the process west find a cheap cat less up pipe and Sti injectors as well... Then turn up the boost a bit. Sti intercoolers can handle more power than your stock block can. You can achieve all of this with under a grand if you play your cards right.

Most importantly before adding anymore power make sure the upkeep on the vehicle is up to date. People who chose a new turbo over a timing belt are retarded.

Also I agree with this guy about the maintenance part

captncal · 11-13-2012, 12:32 AM

save that money....

drewvdw · 11-13-2012, 12:35 AM

At a minimum do your up pipe. Then do whatever mods you want.

575rider · 11-13-2012, 03:24 AM

up pipe and some suspension/ brake upgrades

bugeye105 · 11-13-2012, 08:38 AM

wow thanks for all the advice guys ! yeah after some research im finding headers arent really worth all that money is if ANYTHING the grimmspeed cross pipe is a better bang for your buck then spending 700 on headers. i agree i do need an uppipe though so i definitely will have to get one. as for the suspension comments i see your point, the only suspension mod i have are coilovers, i got to up my game in the section

on another note my up keep is very good, i get it regularly checked and it runs very strong for a car made in 2002 and it has pretty low miles (80xxx) and it doesnt go up fast

keep coming with the suggestions i like them! thanks again

EvileyeZ88 · 11-13-2012, 08:43 AM

Sways and end links, fender braces and bushings. Your car now handles like a roller coaster.

Or the time tested classic:

Hookers and blow...

~Evil

Napalm3nema · 11-13-2012, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugeye105

whats your reasoning on this

So much fun having those on there, I never thought I'd enjoy suspension mods more than power mods but I did in this case.

bugeye105 · 11-13-2012, 10:16 AM

do you really feel that much of a difference in sways and endlinks?

ChefRacer · 11-13-2012, 10:19 AM

Absolutely

EvileyeZ88 · 11-13-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugeye105

do you really feel that much of a difference in sways and endlinks?

Go under the rear end of your car and grab hold of that little thin metal bar running between your wheels. That's the sway bar, now give her a little tug. See how much it bends?
That's what keeps the body of your car from rolling during turns

A good 22mm sway bar won't ever do that.

An upgraded sway bar will eventually kill the stock end links so that's where after market end links come into play.

~Evil

s2ktosti · 11-13-2012, 10:44 AM

Your car is over 10 years old, I'd be saving for repairs or replacement.

11-12-2012, 05:10 PM	#1
bugeye105 Scooby Newbie Member#: 319753 Join Date: May 2012 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: westchester Vehicle: 2002 wrx stage 2 psm	What would you do ??? So just shooting out a question, i have just under $1000 to spend right now on my car and im torn between two upgrades. I want to know what people out there would choose/see what comments people have on which would be recommended for my 2002 wrx Option 1: Process West TMIC w/ splitter and hoses or Option 2: Tomei Extreme unequal length header w/ up pipe heat wrap etc... my engine mods right now are: custom made 3" turbo back (downpipe & catback) Turboxs bov Cobb short ram gimmick postmaf gimmick turbo inlet mishimoto silicon lower radiator hose walbro 255 fuel pump cobb accessport stage 2 stock turbo stock injectors stock headers stock uppipe stock intercooler I have not dyno'd it yet and i plan on it during the install of this next upgrade any negative comments please keep them to yourselves with the info given what would you do? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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11-12-2012, 05:15 PM	#2
Danthrax Scooby Newbie Member#: 299368 Join Date: Oct 2011 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Pennsylvania Vehicle: 2002 WRX WR Blue	Should do the up pipe while you're at it. Quicker spool and save the turbo in the long run.

11-12-2012, 05:42 PM	#3
Tonyturkey716 Scooby Newbie Member#: 307879 Join Date: Jan 2012 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2013 WRX Hatch SWP	Now I'm no pro and just giving my opinion as you asked but I would go with choice number two with the UP. While the PW is a great piece, you won't benefit much from it while being in the stock turbo. Again just my feedback Edit: once you go for an upgraded turbo then I say PW.

11-12-2012, 06:09 PM	#4
bugeye105 Scooby Newbie Member#: 319753 Join Date: May 2012 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: westchester Vehicle: 2002 wrx stage 2 psm	great, thanks. thats what others have recommended too and i see you point. anyone else?

11-12-2012, 06:30 PM	#5
pimpin24 Scooby Newbie Member#: 328496 Join Date: Aug 2012	Deffinatly option 2 it'll be the best bang for u buck right now

11-12-2012, 06:34 PM	#6
Napalm3nema Scooby Specialist Member#: 263954 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Houston, TX Vehicle: 2008 STi Aspen White / Gold BBS	None of the above. Get swaybars + endlinks.

11-12-2012, 07:14 PM	#8
05subysti Scooby Specialist Member#: 268190 Join Date: Dec 2010 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: central tx	tomei header and up pipe!

11-12-2012, 10:25 PM	#9
tommyson01 Scooby Specialist Member#: 154579 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Cochabamba Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon PSM - Sold	Just the up pipe. Then, spend some on your brakes and do the H6 rear up grade. I have to ask though, what are you goals for the car?

11-12-2012, 10:41 PM	#10
SparkSilver10NM Scooby Newbie Member#: 302438 Join Date: Nov 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque Vehicle: 10 WRX SS DMrally tuned!	I vote the UP heat wrap and suspension bits. The reasoning is suspension parts make your car feel more fun, handle better, and are a long life upgrade that don't require tuning

11-12-2012, 11:02 PM	#11
BlackJavaPearl04 Scooby Specialist Member#: 198522 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Up State NY Vehicle: 98 LGT Limited 10 Forester	I would go with EL headers...i made 30 more whp and tq with them

11-13-2012, 12:02 AM	#13
SubieLuvin Scooby Specialist Member#: 248202 Join Date: May 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Columbus, Ohio Vehicle: 2013 WRX Sedan SWP	Honestly at your power level your not going to benefit that much from an aftermarket exhaust manifold. If I were you I would screw the process west tmic and just find a lightly used Sti one and with the money you save from over paying for the process west find a cheap cat less up pipe and Sti injectors as well... Then turn up the boost a bit. Sti intercoolers can handle more power than your stock block can. You can achieve all of this with under a grand if you play your cards right. Most importantly before adding anymore power make sure the upkeep on the vehicle is up to date. People who chose a new turbo over a timing belt are retarded.

11-13-2012, 12:19 AM	#14
ChefRacer Scooby Newbie Member#: 287000 Join Date: Jun 2011 Vehicle: 05 LGT wagon 5mt	I don't think either of those choices make much sense for your current setup ul headers are pretty much always a waste of money, el is the only bang for your buck, but those will push your powerband to the right and you already have a turbo that doesn't have much top end power. I'd say for $1000, get a used vf39, some sti injectors for $100, and an STI tmic... Then hope that you don't blow anything up. Btw, if you have that current setup without a real tune... You need to get one asap

11-13-2012, 12:32 AM	#16
captncal Scooby Specialist Member#: 284508 Join Date: Jun 2011 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Alexandria, Va Vehicle: 2011 wrx Silver	save that money....

11-13-2012, 12:35 AM	#17
drewvdw NASIOC Supporter Member#: 255776 Join Date: Aug 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Laramie, WY Vehicle: 2010 LR WRX MPS and PAR powered.	At a minimum do your up pipe. Then do whatever mods you want.

11-13-2012, 03:24 AM	#18
575rider Scooby Specialist Member#: 112024 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: any epic singletrack Vehicle: 03 WRX vf34 wagon 6 spd, track & dd duty	up pipe and some suspension/ brake upgrades

11-13-2012, 08:38 AM	#19
bugeye105 Scooby Newbie Member#: 319753 Join Date: May 2012 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: westchester Vehicle: 2002 wrx stage 2 psm	wow thanks for all the advice guys ! yeah after some research im finding headers arent really worth all that money is if ANYTHING the grimmspeed cross pipe is a better bang for your buck then spending 700 on headers. i agree i do need an uppipe though so i definitely will have to get one. as for the suspension comments i see your point, the only suspension mod i have are coilovers, i got to up my game in the section on another note my up keep is very good, i get it regularly checked and it runs very strong for a car made in 2002 and it has pretty low miles (80xxx) and it doesnt go up fast keep coming with the suggestions i like them! thanks again

11-13-2012, 08:43 AM	#20
EvileyeZ88 Scooby Specialist Member#: 233501 Join Date: Dec 2009 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Fairfax Va, Henrico Va Vehicle: 07AD 337/335SAXWAGON 99 outback sport	Sways and end links, fender braces and bushings. Your car now handles like a roller coaster. Or the time tested classic: Hookers and blow... ~Evil

11-13-2012, 10:16 AM	#22
bugeye105 Scooby Newbie Member#: 319753 Join Date: May 2012 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: westchester Vehicle: 2002 wrx stage 2 psm	do you really feel that much of a difference in sways and endlinks?

11-13-2012, 10:19 AM	#23
ChefRacer Scooby Newbie Member#: 287000 Join Date: Jun 2011 Vehicle: 05 LGT wagon 5mt	Absolutely

11-13-2012, 10:44 AM	#25
s2ktosti Scooby Specialist Member#: 70151 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Jersey Shore Vehicle: 2011 WRX Limited Black	Your car is over 10 years old, I'd be saving for repairs or replacement.