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Old 09-08-2012, 07:54 PM   #76
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i'm going to ditch my sti for a brz. next spring/summer. from what i can tell, its jsut so raw. even a few guys i spoke to at the track said the car has SO much potential to be a handling monster.

now i've read that 08+sti rear sway bars fit this car, is this correct? do you know if anything else would carry over from the sti? (i have a 2011) so if i can simply swap some parts over that would be awesome.

now as for the car, how livable is this? i mean compared to other cars like the s2k for example it would seem more practical in the real world, but is that REALLY the case?

everyone i talk to says i'll be miserable coming form my modded sti to a brz, but i never really cared about power, does this car put a smile on your face when you drive it?
Yes the STi rear swaybar will fit, however we dont suggest just putting it on as the car will have CRAZY amounts of oversteer. Only other item that I am aware of will be the rear endlinks, front brakes(with 2004 STi front rotors) and the rear lower control arms.

The car is easy to live with, has plenty of usable room and is comfortable. I would say better then a S2K or Miata for instance.

Coming from a STi you will be disappointed from the start, no question about it as you will feel the car is slower, the brakes are not as good and the car doesnt "feel" to have as much grip. However after driving it for a few day you will find that its a different car all together in regards to how it wants to be driven to reward you as the driver. Overall if you want a fun RWD car in the mid 20K price range you simply cant go wrong! Plus as you know with a STi, nothing a few mods cant fix to make it even better!

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Old 09-13-2012, 07:24 PM   #77
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I was really excited when Whiteline told us they had a set of sways for our BRZ, and no more than one day later I got an email with a tracking number. So I cleared my schedule the day they were supposed to arrive here as I was super anxious to get these on. As you may already know, when we installed the Bridgestone RE-11 tires, the car lost its “Magic”, meaning that the rear end was not eager to break away for you on command, but we did receive massive grip. In fact, the car had so much grip that I nearly had to see a chiropractor after our Eibach spring test with the RE11’s as the grip flying through the cones just forced my head to whiplash back and forth. Not that the raw grip is ever a bad thing, but I missed the way the stock tires allowed the rear end to be so alive, it would almost dance as you threw the cars through corners, and was just an amazing experience. So I was really hoping and dreaming that the sways would give us back that magic that the factory BRZ had… and it did!







First lets touch on the install, as this was the first time I installed swaybars on the BRZ, and I figured it would be like the 08+ WRX/STi’s and to be honest, it was for the most part. We jacked the car up in the air, took off the skid plate, and started to rip that tiny front stock bar out. I removed the nuts that attached the sways to the endlinks, then the 2 bolts on the swaybar mounts. The stock bar came out with ease, but getting the new bar in would not be quite as easy. After struggling with it for a few minutes, I decided we just needed a bit more room, so I removed the brace that connects the front subframe to the unibody chassis of the car, once this was gone and out of the way, it allowed the new bar to slide in with ease. I greased up the bushings, put them in the right location and put the swaybar mounts back on, then installed the front endlinks. LAst, I dropped it back on the ground and torqued everything down. Now onto the rear, which I knew was going to be easy, so I left it for last. Once I got the rear end up in the air, it was as simple as removing the endlinks, and removing the swaybar mounts. Everything is easy to get to and you have plenty of space to work. The rear swaybar was about the easiest thing I have ever installed on this car. All in all I would say the front bar took around an hour or so, and the rear about 20 minutes. Once everything was torqued, I cleaned myself up and decided to take the car out for a quick test drive.








There is a stretch of road near work that I drive on every single day, now I am not sure if the city/planners/engineers had messed up, but there is a long 45MPH stretch of perfectly straight road, which eventually makes it way to a very tight, sharp, and bumpy S-turn, and guess what… no reduction of speed, so you can blast around it at 45MPH if desired, and I guess "technically" not break any laws by definition. Now I know if a cop saw me take this S turn at 45MPH, I am quite sure he would give me a ticket, but at least we would have something to argue about right? So anyway, not only do you get this nice tight S-turn, but it is followed by a very nice and curvy 35MPH road which I always find to be a great stretch of road to test out any car. It has a few tight technical turns, some off camber corners, and some nice bumpy corners. Cruising down this road, I could not help but break a smile, the magic was back!!! I had the rear 16mm swaybar on the middle setting, where the front is a 20mm non-adjustable bar. This combination proved to be just the ticket to bring the craziness back into this car. No longer did I struggle to make the rear end feel alive, now it was as simple as tossing the car into a corner, and let that rear end dance around as I controlled the madness with my right foot. It literally made me giggle like a school girl and all my worries that we may never get that feeling back quickly disappeared with the faint sound of tire squeal. My mad car is back, and it is glorious! I would even go as far as to say it is better, as you no longer get the feeling like you are driving on all seasons with the soft sidewalls, instead you get the razor sharp precision from the stiff and sticky RE-11’s, but at will, you can make the rear of the car do your evil bidding, but at the same time, it just feels so right. Everything is at peace with the world now, as I have my crazy puppy dog car back, or should I say crazy, baby albino rhino? Either way, I could not be happier with the car at this point. Other than the power, it is everything I was hoping the car would be. If you ever find yourself messing up the awesome feel of the stock BRZ with grippy tires, do not hesitate to throw on a set of front and rear swaybars, not only will it reduce body roll, which is what I should have really focused on in this write-up, but they will bring the fun back to the BRZ, which apparently means the most to me! Now I am sure we will upset the handling again in the future, but fear not, I will fight tooth and nail to bring the lunacy back to this car, as I don’t want to take away from what made this car so special to me in the first place.




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Old 09-14-2012, 07:38 PM   #78
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Cusco Front Strut Tower Bar Type OS w/ Master Cylinder Brace Subaru BRZ 2013 / Scion FR-S 2013







I’m not going to lie. Looking at the engine bay in the BRZ is less than inspiring, sure it is clean and laid out well, but nothing in there really invites you to take another look, and I at least wanted to put something in there that made it pleasing to the eye. Enter the Cusco Strut bar with the built in Master cylinder Brace. Not only do I love the Cusco blue color, but I figured some added rigidity in the front of the chassis and the addition of the master cylinder brace would be a nice modification to the car all around. Installation was a breeze at worst, but to me, it was a pleasure to install this.






I think this was the first modification I have done to the car where I was not on my back, and elbow deep in grime.



This should have only taken me 20 minutes at most, but after dropping a nut to the strut tower bar on the top of the skid plate, and spending 5-10 minutes trying to fish it out, it ended up taking about 30 minutes to install, and still taking my sweet time. We hooked up a camera in the engine bay to give before and after movement of the master cylinder, and even in person it was amazing to see the brace in action, it truly minimized the movement of the master cylinder.






Now, just cruising around town you may never notice this, but come in a bit hot into a corner and threshold brake, it becomes apparent why these braces are in existence. The BRZ brakes never felt bad in stock form, but after adding the brace, you could feel that the brake response was better, and you gained even more pedal feedback, which is always a plus. Now I was skeptical that the strut tower bar would make a difference, but after cruising though the work “test course” the front end really did feel more… planted? I don’t really know how to put this into words, as "planted" is not right, but basically you can feel that the front end is less independent of the rest of the car, and just more “tied in”, if that makes sense. Don’t think this bar made a night and day difference, because I would never say that, but if you are looking for something to add a bit of shine to the engine bay, the added rigidity to the chassis, and master cylinder brace makes, this a awesome mod all around. This Cusco Strut bar would be something I would recommend personally.





I would like to see if this bar makes any difference on a bone stock car, but I feel like with all of the extra grip we have added, we may be able to actually take advantage of the extra rigidity. Overall I thought it was a fun install, a great looking bar, and did add some extra feel and feedback to the car!








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Nice part addition - I like... :-)
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Nice part addition - I like... :-)
Thanks, I was actually really impressed with it overall, plus it looks awesome!!

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i'm going to ditch my sti for a brz. next spring/summer. from what i can tell, its jsut so raw. even a few guys i spoke to at the track said the car has SO much potential to be a handling monster.

now as for the car, how livable is this? i mean compared to other cars like the s2k for example it would seem more practical in the real world, but is that REALLY the case?

everyone i talk to says i'll be miserable coming form my modded sti to a brz, but i never really cared about power, does this car put a smile on your face when you drive it?
I think part of that depends on your requirements. I'm coming from a mildly modded 11 STI Hatch and am much happier with the BRZ. It does put a smile on my face and I'm ALWAYS looking for an excuse to drive it. Where I used to look forward to getting off from work, I'm just looking forward to getting in my car and driving.

But for me, there's a bit of an adjustment. Coming from a roomy 5 door to a compact 2 door, I had to chaange a few things. Also, the interior space is limited. I can still hit the grocery store no problem, but a Costco trip might be a bit challenging. Instead of throwing all my crap in the back seat, I have stuff in the trunk. Small adjustment, but it's the small things that will make or break or enjoyment of the BRZ as your daily driver.
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Just wanted to let you guys know we installed the new Invidia N1 with Ti tips on the BRZ Today! Check out the pictures and let us know what you think.









Please stay tuned for more updates as well.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:59 PM   #84
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That exhaust looks GOOD! Sound clip meow!
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That looks great! Very curious to hear it.
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haha thanks! We should be working on the video here shortly and I will post it up as soon as we get it done. So far I am really impressed with the sound, very smooth and not too loud either

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Sounds so beastly!
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Thanks guys! And our BRZ is currently under the knife, but do expect some more updates shortly

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Sorry for the delay, just got our new Albino Rhino Video Blog Update done!


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Big thanks to JPM Coachworks, check out what I just installed!




Looks pretty good for my first time!

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I find the sway bar post comical. The car was so perfectly fun and balanced from the factory. That was not an accident. Or luck. The car was designed to be playful and fun. Adding tons of grip (RE-11's) will take away the fun playful character of the car a Daily Driver needs. So now money has been spent to add grip and make it less fun, so that money has to be spent to again to reduce the grip (that you just paid lots of money for) in the rear so it can be fun again. You just have to laugh.


The simple solution is to just leave it stock and love the goodness engineering into the car and keep 1400 dollars in your pocket.

For a Daily Driver this car is darn near perfect out of the box.

Having said that, I think that front strut tower bar with the built in brake brace is a beautiful design and would be on my short list if I owned the car.

does the car need a strut brace with stock tires and suspension.. probably not. But I figure it cannot possible hurt.
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I could not agree more with that statement....until I had a chance to drive our BRZ and others that are even more modded then ours to say this car has LOTS of room for improvement.
Out of the factory its fun, dont get me wrong. But having added these parts, this car is even more fun to drive, more lively, easier to drive, and overall puts a much bigger grin on your face. Hard to believe that, as you are not the only one who thinks along those lines. But Subaru/Toyota left allot to be desired for the purpose of having this be a tuner car that people fall in love with and mod.

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I think you are doing a great job Kirill, you seem to post informative reviews and are very detailed in your descriptions and there are many people who can learn from what you are doing. I have had subaurs forever, and have modified all of them to some degree.

I have ALWAYS had great experience with dealing with Rally sport, and I am in no way saying you guys are not doing a good job here. If I had a subaru now I would look to you guys for toys.

I am just getting cynical in my old age and have been down the mod route too many times.
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HAHAHA, I know the feeling. Its always a balance between going crazy or keeping it mild. Either way its not the amount of parts that you have on the car, its all about enjoying it . Heck even driving a stock STi sometimes I forget how much fun they are right out of a box

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I am just getting cynical in my old age and have been down the mod route too many times.
Sorry, just had to quote this again as I feel the exact same way. I still appreciate modified cars, but I always play the "can I live with this mod everyday?" game, and recently the old/cynical part of me is winning haha.


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Took a quick pic of the Albino Rhino Today, Rick should be doing some work on it this weekend so stay tuned for that



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Just got these.. Hot off the press from the in-house RSD media department!


First up we have the beautiful Carbign Craft Alternator Cover



This was a super easy install, took about all of 5 minutes and using normal hand tools using the OEM hardware. Plus, just look how gorgeous that looks in the engine bay. Rick recommended for sure!!



Next on the list are the APR Carbon Fiber Brake Ducts





Now these were a bit more involved to install, you remove the 2 under panels located below the stock "ducts", remove the 2 10mm nuts that go to the DRL's, pop out the factory units, pop these bad boys in, bolt it all back up and you are good to go! Please note, we did add some washers on the backside of the DRL studs to help give a more secure mount.
I really like these as it just gives the front of the car so much more character, granted we do not have any hoses going to our brakes, but that could be done easily in the future if need be. These are more than just for good looks!

You may also notice those beautiful Lamin-X headlight covers, now I did not install these so I cannot comment to much on the install. But just make sure to do it when it is warm out, or have a heat gun ready, also plenty of patience is key with any protective film. Don't they look amazing though? A bit of GT300 BRZ style right there!



Oh what shall we do next? I know! How about some APR Carbon Fiber rocker panel extensions.





Now this is what I am talking about, finally adding some aggression to the timid lil' Albino Rhino. In regards to the install, I do get nervous any time I hear the word "drill", I won't lie. Drill... On a brand new car?! Yep, but with APR's crystal clear instructions and the fact that these fit like an OEM piece, even I could not mess this up haha. Have a buddy help you with these, but if you have that, these are a breeze to install. Very satisfying as well once you are all done and you can sit back and see the way these have transformed the side of your car. So much better!!!!



Leaving my favorite for last, I present to you the APR Carbon Fiber rear bumper skirts.






Of course my favorite part was also the most timely for me to install. Now don't get me wrong, you will look at it and think, "pfft this will be easy, I mean you use the OEM holes and it just bolts right up!" All of that is true, but Subayota has blessed this area on the car with virtually no working space. Get your 1/4 10mm sockets and extension, and think small as you have to squeeze your hands in very tight spaces to gain access to the bolts. Even if you are blessed (cursed?) with small hands like me, it is still a tight squeeze. Even after all of the cursing...err I mean "nice words", I was absolutely blown away to see how amazing these made the rear of the car look, even the picture above does not do it justice! Also, a keen eye will notice something else new in this picture, and we will touch on that at a later date.


Thanks so much guys and please, let us know what you think! We always love to hear feedback! Also a big thanks to APR for making these beautiful carbon fiber products!


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