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Old 11-12-2012, 01:47 AM   #1
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So I am contemplating getting rid of my 08 STi for my dream car, a 91 Porsche 964 C4, 5 speed.

I know I'll be going down in power and space but this is the car I have always wanted.

Anyone here have experience with a 964 and an STi? If so, will you toss some advice my way whether its telling me to keep my subie or get the porsche and why?

She is still fun, awd, manual transmission and out of warranty. Just like my STi.

Thanks guys.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:50 AM   #2
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Don't have experience with 964's but do agree that they are beautiful cars. I have an 08 STi and love her. Fast, fun, functional and practical. But you gotta drive what you like. Life is short. Go with what makes you happy. Good luck and keep us posted!
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #3
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I hope you're good at wrenching on your car, because a 20 year old Porsche is going to be a maintenance hog. FWIW, I pass 996 911s on the track all the time in my '08 WRX.

If this is going to be your daily driver then my advice is keep the Subie. Its faster, more practical, less expensive to drive, and less expensive to maintain.

I get the going with the car you love perspective but for a DD a 20 year old Porsche is going to be an exercise in road side repair..

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Old 11-12-2012, 12:54 PM   #4
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Porsche isn't about sheer power (unless you spend $100k) but it is about the drive. Porsche makes some of the best driver's cars in the world. The 964 is getting long in the tooth, but if you found a good one, I bet you'll be super happy with the switch.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:58 PM   #5
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If that's the car you always wanted and it's literally your hobby car, go for it. Not sure if you are going to buy it as a DD, i would think not, but i would keep the STI if that's the case. But then again, there is a guy here who is a Delorean nut who drives it every days to work haha. You just got to do what makes you happy.

P.S. if you plan on parting with your STI, let me know. I'm in the market
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:00 PM   #6
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Having owned both a Porsche and STi it all comes down to what you want. Porsche's are a much more refined care and do not have the creaks and other things associated with a Subaru. As others have said that cars are not cheap to maintain and work on, unless you are doing it yourself. I absolutely loved my Porsche and will get another one day. After owning the Porsche you will want another DD though I can assure you that.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:08 PM   #7
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DD your STi and have fun with your Porsche?
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:12 PM   #8
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I love 964's. What color? My uncle had a black one years back. He had swapped in a twin turbo motor just before he sold it. That car was crazy fast. I say do it. If its in great shape, you can't pass that up. Or at least I wouldn't.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:17 PM   #9
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Awd>rwd in the pac west
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:36 PM   #10
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Awd>rwd in the pac west
C4 Porsche's are AWD.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:53 PM   #11
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C4 Porsche's are AWD.
Don't know enough about em thanks though. Are they a 2 Kirkland toilet paper in the trunk car or a 1?
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:44 PM   #12
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Don't know enough about em thanks though. Are they a 2 Kirkland toilet paper in the trunk car or a 1?
The engine is in the trunk. So 0 toilet paper. However, under the hood you could probably fit 1.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:05 PM   #13
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The question for me would be what is my main drive for having the car? There is something to be said about an emotional connection to the car and you can't use logic here to justify it So, if the main drive is an emotional one, then just go with that regardless of specs/stats.

For me the main drive it is overall usage. I daily drive my STi...on E85. While I don't have to DD far, I still love having the reliability and utility (it's a hatch) for the times I need to pack people and stuff around.

On the track, even with stock suspension (so far), I am getting by cars like the 4S and pacing supercharged S6s b/c I am working the best modification of them all...me as a driver. So don't worry about being down on power; that does not necessarily equate to the overall fun factor or how "fast" you can go.

If I could have three cars, I would trade in the STi for a Jetta TDi and get something like a Miata, etc., cage it, etc., and be done. Much cheaper to run a car like that than the STi. I might do this plan anyhow.

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Old 11-12-2012, 07:21 PM   #14
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If it's really your true dream car and you are fully invested in maintaining a 22 year old Porsche then I say go for it. I would just be sure because it's going to be a labor of love. There are significant tradeoffs and saying you are just giving up some power and space is not entirely accurate.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:42 PM   #15
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OP should make this a poll, and the bearded one should throw this into OT. I'd like to see some results.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:14 PM   #16
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:18 PM   #17
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If that's the car you always wanted and it's literally your hobby car, go for it. Not sure if you are going to buy it as a DD, i would think not, but i would keep the STI if that's the case. But then again, there is a guy here who is a Delorean nut who drives it every days to work haha. You just got to do what makes you happy.

P.S. if you plan on parting with your STI, let me know. I'm in the market
Agreed! If you love it and she is what you want, go for it! I think I'd wait till I can have both, just to DD my STi and have fun with/mod the 964. Good luck!
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:40 AM   #18
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my current daily driver is a 83 911 (130k on the clock) and love it I am looking for another subaru for snowboarding now though. i actually chose to keep my 911 over my 03 wrx wagon awhile ago and glad i did. yeah older cars need maintanence but, honestly all cars do. i dont have much experience with the 964 but, do with the 996s and obviously the 911sc's. as with all the different changes throughout the years its really on creature comforts, the newer the car the more comfy its going to be.

ive had my 911 for about 4 years now and as far as maintence goes oil changes are a bit more only due to the fact i use 12 quarts per rather then the subarus 4.5 quarts and change a fan belt. Some things are more expensive to repair on the porsche and parts are readily available everywhere but, pelican parts is really good about shipping and usually have parts in 2-3 days when ordering.
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my current daily driver is a 83 911 (130k on the clock) and love it I am looking for another subaru for snowboarding now though. i actually chose to keep my 911 over my 03 wrx wagon awhile ago and glad i did. yeah older cars need maintanence but, honestly all cars do. i dont have much experience with the 964 but, do with the 996s and obviously the 911sc's. as with all the different changes throughout the years its really on creature comforts, the newer the car the more comfy its going to be.

ive had my 911 for about 4 years now and as far as maintence goes oil changes are a bit more only due to the fact i use 12 quarts per rather then the subarus 4.5 quarts and change a fan belt. Some things are more expensive to repair on the porsche and parts are readily available everywhere but, pelican parts is really good about shipping and usually have parts in 2-3 days when ordering.
Exactly the type of info I was searching for. Thanks drifterx!

This will be my daily driver as my STi is my DD now. I have always loved Porsches and I spotted one with good miles on it for a great price.

I do have to admit, being able to lay the seats down and have SUV space is great but its just me. No wife, no kids and no family on this coast, or at least in WA.

The 91 C4 is a coupe, 5 speed, awd and is gorgeous. Of course I want reliability but I still want my 91 C4. Met a guy with 298k on his 92 C4 and he daily drives it. There would be no payment so I could always put my imaginary payment in a car fund for mods and maintenance.

Really tough decision though.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:58 AM   #20
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Exactly the type of info I was searching for. Thanks drifterx!

This will be my daily driver as my STi is my DD now. I have always loved Porsches and I spotted one with good miles on it for a great price.

I do have to admit, being able to lay the seats down and have SUV space is great but its just me. No wife, no kids and no family on this coast, or at least in WA.

The 91 C4 is a coupe, 5 speed, awd and is gorgeous. Of course I want reliability but I still want my 91 C4. Met a guy with 298k on his 92 C4 and he daily drives it. There would be no payment so I could always put my imaginary payment in a car fund for mods and maintenance.

Really tough decision though.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:15 AM   #21
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Exactly the type of info I was searching for. Thanks drifterx!

This will be my daily driver as my STi is my DD now. I have always loved Porsches and I spotted one with good miles on it for a great price.

I do have to admit, being able to lay the seats down and have SUV space is great but its just me. No wife, no kids and no family on this coast, or at least in WA.

The 91 C4 is a coupe, 5 speed, awd and is gorgeous. Of course I want reliability but I still want my 91 C4. Met a guy with 298k on his 92 C4 and he daily drives it. There would be no payment so I could always put my imaginary payment in a car fund for mods and maintenance.

Really tough decision though.
I think you should go for it. I do not regret buying 996 at all. Who knows in the future if you will ever be in a position to buy a Porsche. The good thing about the car you are looking at is that it will not depreciate nearly as much as your STi will. If you decide you don't like the Porsche you can easily sell the car with a minimal loss and get back into an STi. You will enjoy the experience of owning and driving a Porsche way more than an STi.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:16 PM   #22
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The best part about a car is the ability to sell it if/when your tastes or priorities change. I equate it to motorcycles. First one i bought was a sport bike. Fun, impractical. Then a Harley. Not my style. Then a sport touring triumph. Perfect. I say buy it. If you don't like it get rid of it.

By the way, 1987 911 = my dream car
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:59 AM   #23
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OP, any movement on your decision?

I come back to this post and it makes me think about it now. The other day I saw 3 964's and started doing a little research. The guys that own and daily drive theirs just rave how much they love it. A lot of them have sold STi's or 911tt's to have an NA 964. Thats says a lot.

Don't be surprised if I show up with a 964. lol
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:33 AM   #24
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:37 AM   #25
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Get the C4 while you have the chance. Getting a STI back is much easier than finding a C4 that you like.
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