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Old 11-14-2012, 10:06 AM   #1
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Default Yamaha R-Car is a Design Study for a 'Supercar with a Superbike Soul'

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Most people know Yamaha for building motorcycles and musical instruments, but truth is, the brand with the logo sporting three tuning forks placed on top of each other in a triangular pattern, has ventured in many other fields, ranging from recreational vehicles and boats to pool-related equipment and industrial robots. It even tried to build its own V12-powered supercar back in the early 1990s with the futuristic OX9911 (see videos below); however, the program was eventually cancelled due to Japan's financial crisis at the time, but not before the company manufactured three working prototypes.

Yamaha's connection to the auto industry started well before the OX9911, as it helped develop and produce Japan's first true sports car, the 1967 Toyota 2000GT, while in the years that followed, it designed, built, and supplied several engines to automakers, from four-cylinder to V8 units (i.e. the Taurus SHO's 3.0-liter V6 and later on, 3.4-liter V8 units).

The reason why we're telling you all this is to present a new concept study for a Yamaha supercar by an independent designer from Spain named Albert Roselló.

The concept is called the Yamaha R Car, and according to Roselló, it depicts a "supercar with a superbike soul".

Besides the Lamborghini-esque styling, the R Car was envisioned to have an engine delivering over 900-horses while tipping the scales at less than 1,100kg (2,425 pounds), which of course, means nothing since it's all pure fantasy talk.

Additional photos of the project follow right past the jump.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:07 AM   #2
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:48 AM   #3
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I wish Yamaha would get into making cars. Their enthusiast's who would build quality cars with awesome reliability.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:37 AM   #4
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Pics and spec targets are awesome. Hope it comes to fruition.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:27 PM   #5
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I want to know more about this car. Now.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:08 PM   #6
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A better design study might be a competitor for the KTM X-bow.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:21 PM   #7
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I question the "superbike soul" of anything that leans teh wrong way.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #8
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An affordable sports car from Yamaha would be more winning than Charlie Sheen.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:07 PM   #9
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I wish Yamaha would get into making cars. Their enthusiast's who would build quality cars with awesome reliability.
IIRC they did a substantial amount of the manufacturing of the 2nd gen MR2.

Yamaha is Toyota's performance engine partner. I suspect they're choosing not to step on big-brother's toes by entering the affordable auto market.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:14 PM   #10
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Yes. Please yamaha, make cars!
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:26 AM   #11
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I have wondered what various motorcycle engines would be like.

A Triumph Rocket 3 engine in a Morgan 3-wheeler would be EPIC.

A BMW K1600 I6 as a transverse midship layout, with the center-aligned transmission driving a similarly centralized differential (not asymmetrical axle shafts like most transverse car engines) would be awesome.

Yamaha makes great engines, too. YZF-R1 has long been among the top supersport I4 bikes.

The only hurdle for aftermarket is engineering a reverse gear solution to suit... which a manufacturer would have much less trouble integrating into the design. Cars can't be walked backwards like a bike with feet on the ground.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:55 PM   #12
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One more for you, Hip.

Honda Gold Wing H6 in a mid-engine car or Lotus 7. It's shaft drive and has reverse already. Turbocharge it and you've got an easy 400hp.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:43 PM   #13
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When Yamaha does car stuff...awesome stuff happens:

Toyota 2000GT:


Ford Taurus SHO:

(engine was just about the only good thing in that car )


Toyota 180hp 1.8 NA...started life in Celica GTS/Matrix XRS/Vibe GT....ended in:

Lotus Elise:


And the V8 for Volvo....decent motor...later used in :

Noble m600:


The world would be a better place if the Tuning Fork Folks did a bit more 4 wheeled engineering.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:22 PM   #14
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I thought they designed the heads and exhaust of the LF-A as well, no?
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:37 PM   #15
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yamaha good...............5 valves per cylinder.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:05 PM   #16
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The world needs more Yamaha!

I have a 1997 200 HP Yamaha Saltwater Series II outboard that has seen 15 years of duty on a ski boat. The thing has been beaten with WOT hole shots in salt water every day in the summer. It runs like new.

Nothing but routine maintenance at the beginning and end of the season. You cannot kill this thing. Unbelievable engine.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:47 PM   #17
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can't afford= no care!
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:47 AM   #18
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Can't believe no one has mentioned that Yamaha also developed the heads on the infamous Supra 1jz motor
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:57 AM   #19
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Suzuki should have taken this approach. They have lots of knowledge building performance engines in their motorcycles, why not build a small Lotus Elise type vehicle. Instead they build economy cars and we all now know where that lead them.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:10 AM   #20
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It's because everyone wants to be the next Toyota/Honda building appliance cars.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:16 AM   #21
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Suzuki should have taken this approach. They have lots of knowledge building performance engines in their motorcycles, why not build a small Lotus Elise type vehicle. Instead they build economy cars and we all now know where that lead them.
they came up with several promising prototypes but never followed through. Imagine if the Miata had been built by Suzuki or Yamaha.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:25 AM   #22
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Can't believe no one has mentioned that Yamaha also developed the heads on the infamous Supra 1jz motor
They were also involved in the development of the 3sgte in the MR2 and Celica GT-4/AllTrac.
And I loved that engine in my MR2.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:38 AM   #23
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We had a Yamaha 115hp 2 stroke outboard when I was a kid. We ran that thing flat out all the time. My dad sold it to a friend in the late 90's when the engine was 14 years old. My dad used it the entire time the other person owned it. Then they wanted to sell the boat and my dad got another friend to buy the rig. My dad is still using the boat 26 years later running that Yamaha wide open with no problems, without the headaches of boat ownership. I owned 2 FZR-1000's and those bikes were just incredible in the early 90's. Smooth, reliable and fast. I have a little ttr125 dirt bike I ride around with my kids and it's cold blooded, just like all Yamaha's, but it's very reliable.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #24
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Guys, Yamaha has had a hand in the engine design of pretty much every performance Toyota. They're Toyota's default performance engine supplier/consulting firm. You can sort of think of Yamaha as Toyota's M or AMG division. They did substantial design work on the LF-A's engine, and the IS-F's.

The close relationship is why I think it's unlikely we'll see an affordable Yamaha automobile any time soon. LF-A style engineering chest thumping exercise? Maybe. Yamaha branded gen 4 MR2? Not likely. Much as I drool at the prospect.

As to this car design concept, it's cool but it'll be too expensive. If Yamaha wants to show off, I think a superbike statement piece is a better choice. Think 2014 version of the NR750.
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As to this car design concept, it's cool but it'll be too expensive.
It's a concept car.



It isn't for sale.
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