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Old 11-17-2012, 09:24 PM   #3851
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Love the look and sound of the new exhaust. Great choice man!
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:52 PM   #3852
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Looks awesome Ben, should be getting my build back shortly. I went full build this time stage 3, pistons, rods, crank. bearings, ELH so I was really intrested in how yours sounded and it is great. I am a little curious to hear mine with the CNT CBE and now Catless DP.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:20 PM   #3853
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You're right, there's nothing out there with those tips, and they do look damn good on that car. Be nice if they can change your slutty ways with the exhausts.

Oh, and the light painting shots look really really nice.
Yeah the tips look great! I think I'll keep this one

I thought the light painting was so so.

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No worries about those tips being warm enough to affect the bumper?
Nope.

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They look awesome.
All thanks to you!

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Looks awesome!! I wish you lived closer because I want to ride in your car to see if the sound level is tolerable for my wife
Well if you ever stop by I'd be happy to give you a ride!

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Love the look and sound of the new exhaust. Great choice man!
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:24 AM   #3854
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OK, here are some daylight shots of the GReddy SP Elite:





xluben, if you don't mind taking a closer picture of your mudflaps, it really looks nice and subtle.

BTW, nice exhaust! again.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:24 AM   #3855
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Sure. I can do that sometime. They are Flapatax but I only use the fronts, and I drilled new mounting holes so they stick out much less than normal. I like the look but with my summer wheels and tires I kind of wish they stuck out further.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:09 AM   #3856
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Sure. I can do that sometime. They are Flapatax but I only use the fronts, and I drilled new mounting holes so they stick out much less than normal. I like the look but with my summer wheels and tires I kind of wish they stuck out further.
I had to trim the bottom of mine pretty severely to clear the ground... And it still tore off in the snow last year. :-(
So now I just rock the fronts only.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:01 AM   #3857
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I don't think mudflaps go well with lowered cars. Especially the stiff ones like the Flapatax. Since I'm staying low(ish) this winter I have considered getting RA's just so they can flex. I'm not a huge fan of how they can flop around while driving though. Looks kind of dumb to me.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:18 AM   #3858
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I don't think mudflaps go well with lowered cars. Especially the stiff ones like the Flapatax. Since I'm staying low(ish) this winter I have considered getting RA's just so they can flex. I'm not a huge fan of how they can flop around while driving though. Looks kind of dumb to me.
That is why I only put them on the front (like you). I really hate how mud flaps look on our cars but it is the only way I can keep debris off the side of the body with wide tires. If I was still running stock sizes and offsets, the fronts wouldn't even be on there. I have never really understood the obsession with flaps on Subaru's and Evo's.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:31 AM   #3859
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Here's a list of the exhaust swaps I've done:
  1. Stock
  2. SPT
  3. Q300
  4. Stock
  5. Tsudo
  6. Stock
  7. SPT
  8. Stock
  9. Greddy Ti-C
  10. Stock
  11. ARK
  12. Greddy SP Elite
I went through and tried to find photos of each:

Stock:


SPT:


Q300:


Stock:


Tsudo:


Stock:
NO IMAGE

SPT:


Stock:


GReddy Ti-C:


Stock:
NO IMAGE

ARK GRiP:


GReddy SP Elite:
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:38 AM   #3860
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That is why I only put them on the front (like you). I really hate how mud flaps look on our cars but it is the only way I can keep debris off the side of the body with wide tires. If I was still running stock sizes and offsets, the fronts wouldn't even be on there. I have never really understood the obsession with flaps on Subaru's and Evo's.
I copied you on the idea with just the fronts. It wasn't such a big deal on smaller wheel/tire combo's, but once I got these I realized I need to do something. I like that you can hardly even notice them on just the front, because they blend in with the front tire. Especially on a black car it is pretty subtle.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:57 PM   #3861
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Could anyone with a stock trans and shift knob measure the throws? I'd prefer a measurement from the red hazard button to the front of the shift pattern emblem on the shift knob (where it meets the seam in the leather). Measurements in 3rd, N, and 4th would be of interest. I'm curious for the stock, SPT, or Kartboy levers. If you're interested and have any questions please let me know!
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:25 PM   #3862
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Would love to see the info you can compile about those different levers. I am thinking I want the kartboy, I just have the spt right now. I think if I had the adjustable style that I would probably set it the same as the kartboy and leave it anyway.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:28 PM   #3863
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I'm mostly interested in seeing if the shifts are any different with the stock gears vs my PAR gears but I will also compile the shifter comparison info if I can. If you want to measure yours to start, that will help!
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:06 PM   #3864
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Could anyone with a stock trans and shift knob measure the throws? I'd prefer a measurement from the red hazard button to the front of the shift pattern emblem on the shift knob (where it meets the seam in the leather). Measurements in 3rd, N, and 4th would be of interest. I'm curious for the stock, SPT, or Kartboy levers. If you're interested and have any questions please let me know!
Kartboy:
3rd - 4 1/8"
N - 5 7/16"
4th - 6 7/8"
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:21 PM   #3865
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:04 AM   #3866
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Sure. I can do that sometime. They are Flapatax but I only use the fronts, and I drilled new mounting holes so they stick out much less than normal. I like the look but with my summer wheels and tires I kind of wish they stuck out further.
Oh i see, it really looks nice. Makes me want to get Flapatax over RAs and I was thinking of putting only the fronts too like you did.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:17 AM   #3867
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Q300 looked the best
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:40 AM   #3868
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I really liked my Q300 too... drone and ground clearance make it a no-go for a lot of us tho.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:34 AM   #3869
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Oh i see, it really looks nice. Makes me want to get Flapatax over RAs and I was thinking of putting only the fronts too like you did.
RA's work fine for that too. I just got the Flapatax because they are cheap.

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I really liked my Q300 too... drone and ground clearance make it a no-go for a lot of us tho.
I like the flared, double wall tips way better than rolled, but that's just me. Drone and ground clearance are the real killers of that exhaust. It's not one that I would put back on my car, but there are some people that like it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:09 AM   #3870
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Hey it looks like your new exhaust dips down like my Q300. Is your mid-pipe lower then the rest of the exhaust? It doesn't look as bad as mine, but that is what i noticed from your photo.

The rest of it seems to tuck in there nicely.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:18 AM   #3871
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I will try and measure it today, I don't have the stock shift knob anymore but the one I have is shaped almost the same.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:33 AM   #3872
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Hey it looks like your new exhaust dips down like my Q300. Is your mid-pipe lower then the rest of the exhaust? It doesn't look as bad as mine, but that is what i noticed from your photo.

The rest of it seems to tuck in there nicely.
Pretty much all the exhausts with a flex joint or resonator in the midpipe will do that to some extent. Usually it's the lowest point. The Q300 and ARK were much lower than the rest. The GReddy is lower than the muffler, but it's not as low as some of the others. It's possibly it could be an issue for some people, but I don't think you'll find many that are better.

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I will try and measure it today, I don't have the stock shift knob anymore but the one I have is shaped almost the same.
That will make it harder to compare actual shifter position, but it should be fine for the actual throw lengths.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:38 AM   #3873
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Here's a list of the exhaust swaps I've done:
  1. Stock
  2. SPT
  3. Q300
  4. Stock
  5. Tsudo
  6. Stock
  7. SPT
  8. Stock
  9. Greddy Ti-C
  10. Stock
  11. ARK
  12. Greddy SP Elite
Were you running the same downpipe with all of those?

I'd be very interested to see them in order from most favorite to least favorite, based on the overall sound and look of the exhaust. As I recall, the Greddy SP Elite is #1, followed by the ARK... 4 of those are stock, so there's only 6 more to order.

Some people say "a pipe is a pipe", and you're stupid to pay a lot for an exhaust. Others feel like, within some range of variation, you get what you pay for. I know you worked deals for most of them, but I'm wondering whether MSRP or some other standard measure of price will correlate with how much you liked them overall.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:58 AM   #3874
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Were you running the same downpipe with all of those?

I'd be very interested to see them in order from most favorite to least favorite, based on the overall sound and look of the exhaust. As I recall, the Greddy SP Elite is #1, followed by the ARK... 4 of those are stock, so there's only 6 more to order.

Some people say "a pipe is a pipe", and you're stupid to pay a lot for an exhaust. Others feel like, within some range of variation, you get what you pay for. I know you worked deals for most of them, but I'm wondering whether MSRP or some other standard measure of price will correlate with how much you liked them overall.
I had the COBB downpipe with the first SPT exhaust. When I switched to the Q300 I also put on an Invidia catless downpipe. Both downpipes seem nice to me, and I didn't notice a real difference in sound between catted and catless. The casting on the COBB bellmouth was a little nicer for intstall because you can actually get a socket on it. The Invidia has little to no room. Ends up being a closed end wrench.

Also a note is that I switched from the stock manifold to the Invidia EL Race header when I had the GReddy Ti-C on my car. This changed the sound pretty significantly so it's hard to really compare some of the exhausts before/after, but I'll try anyways.

As for exhaust, my current winner is the GReddy SP Elite due to looks, fitment, ground clearance, and sound. It is very quiet, so it's not for everyone. It will be louder/rumblier with an UEL manifold, but I don't know how much. I absolutely love the look of the tips on this exhaust. That alone makes it so desirable for me. It is also pretty light for a full muffler.

The other number one (I guess you could say) is the GReddy Ti-C. Great fitment and ground clearance. Great flow and very aggressive look. Nice aggressive sound without being unrefined. Very light. For someone looking for performance above all else, this one is great. I love how aggressive it looks. It was a little loud for me, but really is not that bad compared to others.

After this it starts to get a bit blurred to me. The ARK and SPT are both very nice, IMO, and both have pluses and minuses. The ARK is basically drone free, excellent quality, full 3", and has a unique look that no one else matches. But the burnt/rolled tips aren't my style, and the low ground clearance is a bother. It is also very expensive and very heavy.

The SPT has beautiful flared tips and a very nice sound with minimal drone. The downsides are smaller piping (which doesn't matter for many people) and low ground clearance at the rear diff (which usually doesn't matter as much as in the midpipe). If you're on the stock turbo and willing to buy used, then the SPT is a real winner, IMO. If you have money to burn and/or want a unique look, than the ARK is very nice as well.

The Q300 is actually a pretty nice exhaust. Quality and fitment is good. It is full 3". The tips fill out the bumper and look very nice to many people. The drone and ground clearance are undesirable to me. While the drone isn't anything like an N1 Race, it is just so much more than it should be for a resonated exhaust with a full size muffler. This could be a good exhaust for many people. It's just not for me.

The last one is the Tsudo. It's a cheaper one, but the fitment isn't very good. Quality was OK, but the flanges didn't line up that great and it hits the rear diff and heat shields. The tips are uneven. The sound was OK, but had some drone. Overall not that loud. It is very heavy. Maybe more so than the ARK. I wouldn't recommend this for most people unless you find a great deal on it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:46 AM   #3875
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So now that you have found an exhaust for the long haul hopefully I think now is time for you to get tint
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