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Old 10-23-2012, 12:37 PM   #26
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Thanks. That's looks a little too close to me. The new block heater loss like it is more than a plug change, the whole thing looks smaller externally.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:15 PM   #27
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did you replace the exhaust gaskets?
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:36 PM   #28
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No, they fell right off.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:50 PM   #29
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but you didn't replace the gaskets when you put it back together? i ordered all 3 just in case, pretty cheap, 20.00 overall for all 3.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:55 PM   #30
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I put the same ones back. No problems.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:22 PM   #31
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well i have them coming with the block heater, won't hurt to change them for peace of mind. 137.00 today for the new style heater, all 3 gaskets, and 5 oil filters, not too bad i guess. gotta love 20% off at subaru parts warehouse.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:53 AM   #32
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One last question, were you able to remove the header by itself, or did you have to remove the center pipe as the instructions dictate?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #33
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I didn't remove the center pipe. I just removed the three nuts on each manifold securing them to the heads.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:28 PM   #34
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I didn't remove the center pipe. I just removed the three nuts on each manifold securing them to the heads.
thanks, that does seem much easier, i will be doing this tomorrow morning.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:07 PM   #35
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i did this today. ended up removing the exhaust as the instructions say just because i didn't want to deal with coolant all over the exhaust and it made it easier to tighten up the heater. I did use the new style heater because it has better heat shielding and is much further from the exhaust. I forgot to take a pic of the clearance but it is close to 2" of clearance



and this is where i routed my cord too because I have a timer i use at work and it is easier to leave it under the hood.

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Old 11-17-2012, 09:59 PM   #36
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Nice install. I have my cable zip tied to the lower grille a few inches behind the plug. When I'm done with it, I just toss it behind the grille and it disappears.

I'm thinking about a hood liner for acoustic and thermal reasons. A lot of heat leaks out through the hood, and now that it's colder, I notice the engine sometimes has trouble maintaining 195F.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:09 PM   #37
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Nice install. I have my cable zip tied to the lower grille a few inches behind the plug. When I'm done with it, I just toss it behind the grille and it disappears.

I'm thinking about a hood liner for acoustic and thermal reasons. A lot of heat leaks out through the hood, and now that it's colder, I notice the engine sometimes has trouble maintaining 195F.
I'd be interested in a liner, where will you get one?
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:27 AM   #38
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Nice install. I have my cable zip tied to the lower grille a few inches behind the plug. When I'm done with it, I just toss it behind the grille and it disappears.

I'm thinking about a hood liner for acoustic and thermal reasons. A lot of heat leaks out through the hood, and now that it's colder, I notice the engine sometimes has trouble maintaining 195F.
You can use sound deadener like FatMat or Dynamat to do that, I would assume.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:34 AM   #39
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Dynamat is good at deadening vibration, but not so much at absorbing sound. I'll have to do some research, but most likely it will be something thick, good at pulling noise out of the air and a good insulator.

The CVTs have an under-hood liner from the factory, but I'm sure there are better after market products.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:46 AM   #40
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Dynamat is good at deadening vibration, but not so much at absorbing sound. I'll have to do some research, but most likely it will be something thick, good at pulling noise out of the air and a good insulator.

The CVTs have an under-hood liner from the factory, but I'm sure there are better after market products.
Does the 5MT have the under-hood liner as well, just kind of curious even though I have the CVT? I bought some Rattle Trap and was looking to deaden my doors, hatch, and underneath the hood.
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Does the 5MT have the under-hood liner as well, just kind of curious even though I have the CVT? I bought some Rattle Trap and was looking to deaden my doors, hatch, and underneath the hood.
Nope, just bare metal
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:38 AM   #42
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Nope, just bare metal
Oh I didn't know that, maybe the CVT has it to mask the whining noise it makes.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:41 AM   #43
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Oh I didn't know that, maybe the CVT has it to mask the whining noise it makes.
Probably, usually that liner is for sound deadening and not heat retention
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Probably, usually that liner is for sound deadening and not heat retention
Well the engine bay gets plenty warm on its own, so any sort of additional insulation would cause the car to bog down.
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Well the engine bay gets plenty warm on its own, so any sort of additional insulation would cause the car to bog down.
I don't agree with that. There is enough airflow that it shouldn't. Really only at idle and not moving would you see temps rise a few degrees. It's not a performance car so I don't think you would notice the difference
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I don't agree with that. There is enough airflow that it shouldn't. Really only at idle and not moving would you see temps rise a few degrees. It's not a performance car so I don't think you would notice the difference
I meant when your car remains stationary idling in traffic, which is the same thing as what you said.
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The radiator is very capable of keeping the engine cool enough.

Insulating the engine bay won't change the thermostat opening temperature.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:32 PM   #48
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The radiator is very capable of keeping the engine cool enough.

Insulating the engine bay won't change the thermostat opening temperature.
No, but it would change the air intake temp. Not a real big deal in our cars though
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No, but it would change the air intake temp. Not a real big deal in our cars though
It's a very short intake that draws directly from the grille.

I don't think the difference would be significant. Warm air tends to improve economy a bit anyway.

In any case, It's not a difficult thing to monitor.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:57 PM   #50
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It's a very short intake that draws directly from the grille.

I don't think the difference would be significant. Warm air tends to improve economy a bit anyway.

In any case, It's not a difficult thing to monitor.
My Buick has an intake of similar length that draws air from the fender wall. In traffic the temps rise about 20F, which is pretty significant
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