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Old 11-16-2012, 02:06 AM   #26
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While I love my car and wouldn't trade/sell and will probably have it until it dies. I must say, I was looking at pictures of the standard Legacy's interior and it is a xmillion better than the Impreza's. Obviously because the Legacy is the Luxury line of Subaru, BUT I couldn't help but feel kind of disappointed.

In my opinion the Impreza has a better exterior but that Legacy interior was interchangeable with no mods needed, I'd so be on that. The 2 things I'd only really swap out are the door panels and the dials. And maybe the seats...definitely the seats.....going to look into the seats.....yeah the seats...

To sum up the discussions question, Has your Impreza ever disappointed you (if not initially) then down the road somewhere?

I haven't been disappointed by my impreza. putt putt around is comfortable and i feel the power is sufficient for it. Long distance trips are manageable due to heated seats, which relieve any back pains you might get from the trip.

How I see things might be different compared to most Impreza owners. I think in order to move towards a WRX/STI or even a Legacy GT for that fact you have to learn how the car works / maneuvers. If you don't know how to control a lower hp car then you sure as hell wouldn't be able to handle a higher hp car with stiffer/better suspension.

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:57 AM   #27
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I personally dislike all the electronic doodads and gizmos in cars these days, so for me, the simple interior of the WRX/STi is a huge plus and was actually a selling point.

I traded my 06 WRX in on a 2011 Charger R/T .. because in my head, I thought that new fancy interior was going to be great .. and 8 months later I traded it in for another WRX.

I found I hated heated seats and steering wheels, the EVIC display was annoying, and the climate control would not even allow me to simply open the vents to let outside air in.

Now I know that I want less tech in cars. Maybe I'm a control freak .. I dunno.
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you didnt like heated seats? im glad i have them on 15 degree mornings.
....my wife wouldn't want another car without them. For me, I could do without simply because I feel it doesn't usually get cold enough here IMO (although there are a couple of times its been nice). However, the heated side mirrors have helped on more than a few occasions. I have both on her 08 Forester and my 10 Challenger.

Personally, I've worked with tech for 23+ and tend to like it in my vehicles. Things like the EVIC in my Challenger I find far from annoying.

I got rid of my WRX more than two years ago and have no regrets. Being realistic, the Forester may end up being our last Subaru we buy. ....although we'll probably keep it as our spare/DD when my wife decides to get something new.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:27 PM   #28
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/17/2...ine-fire-risk/

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/29/2...-first-recall/

just a fyi. I personally would look into what has been recalled on vehicles before deciding on purchases.
It won't be for a long time anyways, but the research I've done on them have gotten very good reviews.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:55 AM   #29
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Although I do get envious of all the high tech things in cars coming out, I tell myself that the main reason I bought this car was for the driving and driving alone.

One of the few cars that I have no problem going to a track, highway driving, up mountains, back roads, gravel, dirt, snow pretty much anywhere I have enough clearance for, I don't fly so unless I rent a car this WRX goes wherever I go. I owned an 04 CTS-V and I died a little inside every time there was any dirt on the car at all.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:52 AM   #30
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I like my interior until i get in one of my other cars, then im disappointed.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:58 AM   #31
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you didnt like heated seats? im glad i have them on 15 degree mornings.
Haha my wife was like "wtf is wrong with you" as well. I just found them really uncomfortable when turned on.

I suppose I am just a simple man with simple taste.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:30 AM   #32
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Heated seats are not intuitive. If you haven't had them before, they're weird and can be off-putting. Once you've used them a little bit, you sort of warm up to them (har). To have or not to have is so-so. It's most nice on very cold days where they basically are your only source of heat for 10-15 minutes, you know...when it's -20F outside. I'll agree that they serve far less use right now when it's only around freezing. They're also a much bigger deal with leather or vinyl seats versus cloth.


As far as getting disappointed with a car, the heart wants what it wants. You will often never completely love a car. There will always be something you want different. There are cars you enjoy riding in that are comfortable, plush, quiet, etc. There are cars that are a ton of fun to drive that are nimble, quick, and powerful. There are cars and trucks that you purchase specifically for utility, work, hauling things. None of these cars really give you everything, so it's extremely difficult to buy one vehicle and magically have it all.

I bought a Forester (02 Forester S) because it offered some of the best utility. It had a good engine, good space, light weight and pretty nimble on the Impreza chassis, and it was priced well. The seats were comfortable, the interior pretty quiet, and the ride was quite compliant for my back washboard and pot hole strewn gravel roads. A lot of things fit well. I began getting into racing with auto-x and rally-x, modded that Forester a big to get it to a state that I felt was competent for the task, and it did fine. I more recently bought a moderately modded FXT to take over the duties. However it could have very well been a STI, EVO, or any other pretty fast car. I still preferred the utility, awd for winter, etc, so the Forester platform is still very good in that it can target a very large spectrum of use competently without significant compromise. These days I drive a distance to work, work enough hours to dig into and inhibit some of my racing hobby, and I find myself craving a more plush car, a more economical car, and having both NA and turbo with over double the power, I don't specifically crave the big power or find much use for it on a regular basis. Same can be said for handling performance and the type of ride that has to come along with that performance. I find myself wanting to split to two cars to again cover that same spectrum. If I had to stick with one, my choice may vary depending on the situation. Subarus are still quite good, but the modern car selection is quite significant. Many companies are coming out with a lot of very good cars that are finally worth buying. Plus some old, great cars are getting super cheap to buy.

I do think Subaru could do some small things. They've done a LOT to improve their interiors versus older generations. The fit and finish is significantly improved. However, it's still a ton of plastic, often soft touch, textured materials, but felt/carpeting trim is nice. It's nice to have that soft feel on things and we mentally link that to warm, comfortable environments. Jaguar has an excellent approach to this idea where they treat every surface as if someone's going to touch it, feel it, and judge the car by the sensation.

Subaru's been hit or miss on seats, some good, some bad. My 02 Forester has the same seats as the 02 WRX, well better since they're actually adjustable. I still really, really like those seats, excellent design. My 04 Forester had terrible seats. All of these seats are not suited for any sport suspension (way too soft and springy). I eventually grabbed some JDM STI Spec-C seats to get some actual bolstering back as well as much firmer foam. The result is a much nicer seat and one that's still very comfortable as long as you're not too wide at the hip (I'm 200 lbs, wear a 34 pants snuggly so not that bad really for being able to fit a range Americans). I think Subaru needs to go back to the 02 design much more closely and step to the firmer foam. I think it's a better package and a package that suits a wider range of suspension setups without turning your seat into a trampoline. Unfortunately I have been in very few new cars. I've sat in some, and the seats were better. I think the seats like they have in my 04 Forester was about as bad as they ever got.

The new cars have lost a lot of their durability. I miss the steel panels in my 04 Forester. The aluminum doesn't rust (yay) but it's oh so fragile. It was understandable what they did, but it took away some toughness of the car. The new generation with all its plastic again took away toughness from the car. You can no longer touch anything with the car without breaking something or tearing parts off. A lot of guys in rally-x are seeing damage from their cars with ripped bumpers and plastic undertray or wheel well bits, things they did not experience in the previous gen cars. If Subaru is a brand of utility, it needs to retain its toughness, and I see that going away from the company in order to target a broader customer base.

Long, long story short, I'm content with the Subarus I've owned. Personal preferences change over time that can eventually force changes in cars. Also, I think Subaru has done great to expand their customer base and market their cars well to create a lot of sales, BUT I think they've evolved these cars away from some core ideals of a Subaru. The utility, toughness, go anywhere, and do anything attitude needs to stay, but now these cars just break parts doing the same thing the old ones could do without fuss.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:53 AM   #33
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The paint. I look at it wrong and it seems to scratch. But having OBP doesn't help either since it shows every imperfection.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:18 PM   #34
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Considering all of the advantages (decent mpg, awd, space, etc) it's hard not to love my Imps (2002 OBS & 2004 TS wagon)...what else can do everything as well?!?
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:21 PM   #35
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I don't like luxuries No sunroof no AC no heated seats no power steering, I wish they made manual windows for gd and holy god run on sentence.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #36
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I haven't been disappointed by my impreza. putt putt around is comfortable and i feel the power is sufficient for it. Long distance trips are manageable due to heated seats, which relieve any back pains you might get from the trip.

How I see things might be different compared to most Impreza owners. I think in order to move towards a WRX/STI or even a Legacy GT for that fact you have to learn how the car works / maneuvers. If you don't know how to control a lower hp car then you sure as hell wouldn't be able to handle a higher hp car with stiffer/better suspension.

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The first car i drove was 11 lgt stg 2...2nd car 2012 stg 2 sti...i don't think that you need to drive a low hp car to learn to drive anything you just need to know your not a racecar driver because your 17 and have a sti
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:29 PM   #37
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The first car i drove was 11 lgt stg 2...2nd car 2012 stg 2 sti...i don't think that you need to drive a low hp car to learn to drive anything you just need to know your not a racecar driver because your 17 and have a sti
Grammar knowledge is also not a requirement.
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