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Old 11-18-2012, 08:42 PM   #26
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turbo lag is not and can not be the same as deylayed throttle response

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no ****ing way

and the throttle CAN BE TUNED a bit to reduce this...but.....
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:58 PM   #27
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turbo lag is not and can not be the same as deylayed throttle response

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no ****ing way

and the throttle CAN BE TUNED a bit to reduce this...but.....
But more volume means more delay. period.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:47 AM   #28
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It's a change in throttle response. NOT turbo lag. Same volume of air is flowing through the turbo at the same velocity as it was before the FMIC install. The difference now, as many have stated, is that the distance between the compression point (turbo) and throttle plate has grown by eleventybillion feet. Making for less responsive throttle inputs.

A new tune will account for the change in pressure drop across the old TMIC and new FMIC, and maximize the charge cooling gain with the FMIC. But you won't see a magically noticeable increase in throttle response. Just something to get used to.

BUT, do yourself a favor, and do a leak check at all the FMIC pipe couplers. Most often you'll find a leak somewhere that is making the throttle response even worse than it should be.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:33 AM   #29
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But more volume means more delay. period.

delay aint lag...its delay

and i said tuned, not eliminated

too many kiddie boiz thnk that fmic's are just the only bestest thing in the world

they aint
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:44 AM   #30
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I don't really give a crap what your opinion is on my setup. That's how it is. I asked for reasons this might be causing a delay in throttle response, not for a lecture on reasons you don't like a FMIC., but instead you feel the need to take subtle stabs at me as you do in half the threads you post in. I'm done reading this thread, I'll ask my tuner.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:38 AM   #31
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Get a tune... ASAP. You can drive around, but stay off the throttle and out of boost. There's a reason you're feeling this 'delay'. Your fueling is tuned for a TMIC. With the FMIC, boost takes a little longer to get to your engine, so it's creating a 'choppy' section in your power band that can be smoothed out with a tune. Resetting your ECU will not magically fix this...
It's a MAF based system. Fueling stays the same. A tune will help, but not for the reasons above.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:00 AM   #32
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Despite my insatiable need for approval from people I don't know, I was looking more for answers as to whether this was a problem or a common thing.
It can be greatly improved with the right tune...and an aftermarket EBCS.

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Oh really? why so? I'm absolutely sure I am right. I'd like to know how you think otherwise simply for amusement.

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turbo lag is not and can not be the same as deylayed throttle response

no

no ****ing way

and the throttle CAN BE TUNED a bit to reduce this...but.....
It can be improved, but it will never feel the same as the stock TMIC. However without a doubt the so called "laggy feeling getting into boost" can be greatly improved with the right tune and an EBCS.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:35 AM   #33
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Pro Fact: Every turbo Subaru comes stock with an EBCS already included
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:07 AM   #34
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Pro Fact: Every turbo Subaru comes stock with an EBCS already included
OK so since I need to spell it out. I'm referring to an aftermarket 3 port interrupt style EBCS.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:51 PM   #35
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What?
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:03 PM   #36
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When did an EBCS start becoming a fix all around here? Lots of stupid in this thread.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:07 PM   #37
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I don't really give a crap what your opinion is on my setup. That's how it is. I asked for reasons this might be causing a delay in throttle response, not for a lecture on reasons you don't like a FMIC., but instead you feel the need to take subtle stabs at me as you do in half the threads you post in. I'm done reading this thread, I'll ask my tuner.

You just gave yourself the best advice about what you should do to make it better.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:00 PM   #38
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^ It was Sunday at the time, man.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:04 PM   #39
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When did an EBCS start becoming a fix all around here? Lots of stupid in this thread.
Fix all? I did not say that at all. Read again and I said there would be improvements when you combine the EBCS with some specific tuning changes. Don't get me mixed up with some of the people here that are not talking from knowledge and experience.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:15 PM   #40
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that not nitpicking semantics solves these confusing thread problems.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:56 PM   #41
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Quit reading, you do not comprehend appropriately.

No semantics are involved in this thread. There is a technical difference with the incorrect term and correct term used to describe what the OP was feeling.

Do not post in threads you cannot offer insight to. It'll make threads confusing.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:07 AM   #42
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Quit reading, you do not comprehend appropriately.

No semantics are involved in this thread. There is a technical difference with the incorrect term and correct term used to describe what the OP was feeling.

Do not post in threads you cannot offer insight to. It'll make threads confusing.
It is shockingly apparent you don't know what semantics are. But by all means, continue the bitchfest. I hear acting like a little girl online actually makes your Epenis longer.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:11 AM   #43
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Playing semantics with semantics...

Have fun
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:32 AM   #44
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Not sure whats so funny....Alot of magician tuners can tune out 5+ feet of piping
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