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Old 10-29-2012, 01:58 PM   #1
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Default Dec 8 @ CMP: Subaru Owners AutoX/PDX

Hey all! Folger Subaru has decided to host another event for the Subaru community at Carolina Motorsports Park December 8th! It will be run like the Subaru Challenge a few years ago where the East Course will be an autocross (the one thatís visible from the paddock/kart track) and there will be a pdx/pde on the West Course (the bigger one obscured by trees). This event is run through Folger Subaru not Subaru of America this time around and we hope to have a good turnout so we can keep hosting these in future. After the last event CMP bought all new timing equipment so hopefully it will alleviate any issues that occurred during the summer event (also running a track day on the West Course should help, cone chasing on the back of that is rough).


This should prove to be an excellent day of racing for any experience level, and if youíve been looking to get into autocross this would serve as the perfect inaugural event, especially since there wonít be any die hards there fighting for season points.


Hope everyone can make it, we will have the kart track open and have plenty of room for spectators. Ride alongs will also be permitted with autocross drivers (so long as you are not a novice) and there will be plenty of opportunities for spectators to get a ride along to see what itís like out on track.


Pricing and the registration site are still getting ironed out, and I will post up once I get that information. If you have any questions feel free to email me at jsotomayor55@gmail.com and I will do my best to assist you. Registration will be open to all makes and models, though we will be charging less for you Subaru owners .


Mark the date and I'll keep you posted,



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Old 10-29-2012, 05:15 PM   #2
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whats required for hpde or can we do the club racing as well.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:43 PM   #3
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I couldn't make it to the one in July. I'm going to try and make it to this one.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:06 AM   #4
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Any more details...?
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:46 PM   #5
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Not Pre-registered yet but am planning on being there
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:59 PM   #6
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Yes please, hopefully its not too cold and I can put some power down.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:51 PM   #7
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let me double check on the details on what is required for the PDX and I'll post back.

Event registration is up!

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...6D1177AAA9CD2E

Also Folger Subaru, the ones putting on the event, are looking to get 1000 likes on Facebook! So go like their page and if they hit their 1000 likes they’ll be giving away two free rides in a Radical Race Car at the event! So go like their page!

https://www.facebook.com/folgersubaru?ref=ts&fref=ts
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:29 PM   #8
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Does PDX and Auto-X cost the same? Is it possible to do both or is there only time for one or the other?

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Old 11-13-2012, 06:31 PM   #9
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Does PDX and Auto-X cost the same? Is it possible to do both or is there only time for one or the other?

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I highly doubt it. PDX will probably be in the $120-$140 range for one day. It was $200 for both days (Sat-Sun) last year and $125 for one, as a Novice.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:06 PM   #10
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I'm out... The STi needs larger fuel injectors before I get out on track again... Plus I've got a wine tasting that I have to use before the end of the year and this is the perfect opportunity since the following two weekends I have to use to fly 8 Apache's back from Texas to NC.. It's a hard life
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:24 AM   #11
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I'm out... The STi needs larger fuel injectors before I get out on track again... Plus I've got a wine tasting that I have to use before the end of the year and this is the perfect opportunity since the following two weekends I have to use to fly 8 Apache's back from Texas to NC.. It's a hard life


Hopefully we'll meet again at some motorsports function.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:17 PM   #12
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So PDX and AutoX can or cant be done together, assuming you pay for both.

I really wish i had the coin for 3 sets of tires/rims.

Summer, race, and winter. Why cant i live somewhere there is only 1 season.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:45 PM   #13
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^ I wouldn't think it'd be possible. You'd really want to do one or the other. Do the PDX.

I called CMP this afternoon. She said she'd call me back with the details of the PDX/Time Trials.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:09 PM   #14
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Hey,
This sounds great! Can't wait for more information.

Thanks,
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #15
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Im definitely doing the PDX but if i can do both i would.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:00 AM   #16
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Alright, here's what I have on the PDX. CMP is calling it a Time Trial, so I'm not sure if you must have prior experience in general or at CMP specifically.

MotorsportReg Link: http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...F#.UKuLWGfAkdQ

And here's the e-mail I received last night from Sylva:

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Cost is $125. T/T

No additional safety items other then helmet and completed tech form ... just like our solo and use the Turn 1 tech form. If it is a convertible it needs to have a roll bar.

Sessions will depend on the number of enteries but will probably be four 15 minute sessions.

Also, info and signup is on motorsportsreg.com

Sylvia Patterson
It's open to all makes/models, and they'll have 3 classes, Stock, Prepared, and Modified. I don't have any info on what bumps you into which class, but if it follows anything similar to SCCA AX, then Prepared will be stock turbo with other mods, and Modified will be built motor, bigger turbo/injectors, etc. I've been signed off for solo driving by CMP's own group that runs events there, Turn 1 Motorsports, so I'm good on experience.

I've asked for clarification on experience, helmet requirement (M or SA), rules for each TT class, and transponder rental.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:33 AM   #17
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Hmm, hopefully I can do the PDX, I have plenty of autox experience but no actual track time. While my car is stock, it likely should be in the modified class. Either way it should be fun.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #18
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Hmm, hopefully I can do the PDX, I have plenty of autox experience but no actual track time. While my car is stock, it likely should be in the modified class. Either way it should be fun.
You can. They'll have instructors available for an additional $10.

Here's the latest responses:

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1. How much is transponder rental, and how/where should I mount it...? Transponders rent for $15/day with a requirement of a credit card number that can be run if the transponder is not returned. As to mounting, there should be a clear shot to the ground.

2. What are the rules for modifications for each TT class? Does it loosely follow SCCA autocross classing? Yes

3. Since this is a Time Trial, previous track experience is a
requirement...? I have a few friends that may come with me if they can get an instructor (no previous track experience). Yes, there will be a novice class with an additional $10 for the instructor

4. Will a Snell M-rated helmet be allowed, or must it be Snell SA-rated? If SA is a requirement, how much is helmet rental? 2005 MA helmets can be used. We have some for rent for $10/day with a $100 security fee (can be credit card number that it not run unless not returned on a good check for $100 that can be returned at the end of the day.
Hope this has helped
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I'm about to buy a SA-rated helmet to replace my M-rated, so I'm not worried about the helmet requirement.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:15 PM   #19
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I didn't think there was a timing loop on that side. When did they install that?
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I didn't think there was a timing loop on that side. When did they install that?
No idea. I don't know where the timing loop is at the track, anyway.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:50 PM   #21
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No idea. I don't know where the timing loop is at the track, anyway.
Timing loop is on the start/finish line.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:57 PM   #22
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So a snell m 2005 helmet is ok to use?

And as a "novice" i have to have an instructor or are they optional?

Guess i can beat up on the stock class cars.

Stock BOSS 302 and a stock WRX/STI have a large speed difference. I hope they have multiple passing zones/straights.
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Timing loop is on the start/finish line.
Gotcha.

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So a snell m 2005 helmet is ok to use?

And as a "novice" i have to have an instructor or are they optional?

Guess i can beat up on the stock class cars.

Stock BOSS 302 and a stock WRX/STI have a large speed difference. I hope they have multiple passing zones/straights.
I'm not sure, but they do have loaners. I always get a funny answer when I ask tracks about M versus SA requirements.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:24 PM   #24
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Passing will be point by on the straights. Zip tie to the frame rail would be the best option [for mounting the transponder].
I have a hard time placing "time trial" and "pass with point-by" in the same sentence, but whatever. I'm going to tentatively plan to do this. I might do the Santa's Run at Atlanta Motorsports Park next weekend, if a spot opens up. If I survive that and my pads/tires are still good, CMP is a definite. Else, I'll do CMP, anyway.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:26 AM   #25
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I'm not sure, but they do have loaners. I always get a funny answer when I ask tracks about M versus SA requirements.
I'm baffled by why they're doing it as a "Time Trial" in the first place. I thought it was a straight up PDX "go drive your car on a track for fun" thing.

As for the M vs SA, if it were up to me I wouldn't allow M helmets for full blown track events. For an AutoX it's okay, but for track events where worse crap is likely to happen, I'd say SA rating should be mandatory. They're tested for multiple impacts, because in a car you're going to be strapped in with plenty of things to hit your head on (window, rollbar, b-pillar, etc)... and are rated for flammability. Motorcycle accidents you're more likely to hit the ground and slide.... one impact, and away from any possible flames.
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