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Old 03-16-2012, 02:34 PM   #1
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Default Subaru Diesel Ee20 Engine

I came across this web site Boxeer.com
It is a company from NASHVILLE TN. Who sell engine swap kits to convert your car to a diesel. I searched for other threads about it and couldn't find anything.
If it is a re-post sorry about it. I'm sure everyone didn't happen to see it.

Does anybody aware of any successful swaps from these guys. It is not cheap but an idea, an alternative if you can find a car with no power-train for cheap and have interest in driving a diesel.



BOXER DIESEL SWAP - STARTING KIT
Get started with the Boxer Diesel Swap complete engine package. Included parts are the 1) EE20 complete engine, 2) turbo intercooler, 3) fly-wheel cover plate, 4) ECU unfinished harness connector, 5) started and 6) fuel filter.
$4750



BOXER DIESEL SWAP - STARTING KIT
Get started with the Boxer Diesel Swap complete engine package. Included parts are the 1) EE20 complete engine, 2) turbo intercooler, 3) fly-wheel cover plate, 4) ECU unfinished harness connector, 5) started and 6) fuel filter.

$4750

SUBARU DIESEL EE20 CUSTOM PARTS



OIL PAN
As the first company using the EE20 engine in multiple applications, we are glad to offer this short oilpan. It saves about 2" of height yet still holds the exact same volume of oil! It comes with stainless steel bolts and a magnetic drain plug. (Pick-up modification available in exchange for original pick-up.)

$395



STAINLESS STEEL EXHAUST STID
Get the best out of the Subaru EE20 engine with this stainless steel exhaust system. Sleek and durable, it is specifically designed to provide high ground clearance and flow along with a unique sound. All 321 stainless steel.

$995


INTAKE MANIFOLD STID
This highly-modified intake manifold renders the Subaru diesel EE20 engine compact. It is perfectly flush level with the alternator, HP fuel pump, and A/C compressor and still retains the MAPT (manifold absolute pressure and air temperature) sensor.

$825

SUBARU DIESEL EE20 STOCK PARTS


240MM CLUTCH KIT
The 240 mm push-to-release clutch is a genuine Subaru part especially design for the EE20 boxer diesel engine. Coupled with the dual-mass flywheel, it ensures the smoothest power delivery from the engine.

$325


FUEL FILTER UNIT
Genuine Subaru part. This factory fuel filter has an integrated fuel heater.

$245


ECU
7 versions of Subaru diesel ECU available.

$425


INTERCOOLER
Factory Subaru diesel intercooler. Get the best from the Subaru diesel engine by using the factory all-aluminum intercooler.

$195


OIL FILTER
Genuine Subaru part. Specific to diesel EE20 engine.

$16


ENGINE STARTER
Factory Subaru diesel starter. More powerful than a gasoline starter. Diesel version is a must have for a durable and powerful start.

$195


ACCESSORY BELT
Factory belt that drives water pump, alternator, and A/C compressor.

$125


TURBOCHARGER
IHI brand turbo provided on all EE20 Subaru diesel engines.

$595


TRANSMISSION
5 speed or 6 speed EE20 diesel-specific transmission.

$1995


SHORT/LONG BLOC EE20 ENGINE
Unused short or long bloc engine.

$2400/$3000
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:48 AM   #2
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Very interesting. I have heard these engines are quite good.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:06 AM   #3
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This would be partially useless without the transmission. The redline is 4500 rpm and peak torque stops at 2400 rpm
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:31 PM   #4
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Yep, you would need a custom set of gears for this but it is doable. I have been toying with several ideas for a EE20 swap but it is pointless until I start making good money and can afford it. I would rather import a front clip since that will give me almost everything I need.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:22 PM   #5
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The kit is useless if it doesn't come with the complete wiring harness, ECU, sensors, exhaust etc.
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:16 PM   #6
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I'm Sure you could email or ring Greg and see what else he can supply with the kits. I'm sure he is doing his own ecu and loom.

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Old 03-19-2012, 08:12 AM   #7
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even with the diesel spec 6-spd manuals, people say that it's a dog in first gear.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:04 PM   #8
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I would love to put one of these in my 98L, but the price tag convinces me otherwise.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:04 PM   #9
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Does anyone know if these engines have thicker sleeves in them? I've only seen engines designed for gasoline but every block I've seen has steel sleeves at least a mm or two thick.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:12 PM   #10
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Oh my... THIS is interesting!!... Subscribed!
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #11
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They've been doing this for a while, and it looks like the prices have come down.

For some stupid reason I've been wanting to use one to build a rear drive tube car for enduro racing, but I have too many projects as it is.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:32 PM   #12
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**** if this block can handle the hell of that which is deisel id like to know more.! Ill stay tuned for more
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:26 AM   #13
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*****. I wanted a diesel so bad last summer. I sold my 98 legacy and bought an 04 tdi suck. If I would have found this last year I would never have bought this piece of crap v dub.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:51 AM   #14
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Yea, been watching this for a while too, like the first guy said, has anyone done this yet?
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:42 PM   #15
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i contacted the guy via email. Not very helpful but we will see maybe this winter i will try and swap something. I live in PA and its not really that hard to find "stickers"
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:07 PM   #16
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*****. I wanted a diesel so bad last summer. I sold my 98 legacy and bought an 04 tdi suck. If I would have found this last year I would never have bought this piece of crap v dub.
If you want to get rid of that 04 TDi I'll consider selling / trading you my 98 Legacy GT Wagon
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:56 PM   #17
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This in a cast steel block would be much better. I would love 1.
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:48 PM   #18
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Does anyone know if these engines have thicker sleeves in them? I've only seen engines designed for gasoline but every block I've seen has steel sleeves at least a mm or two thick.
I was wondering that.

Oldsmobile diesel blocks are/were popular for converting to gas engines. They were thicker.

I wonder if this block could be used to build a gas engine?
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:33 PM   #19
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I have almost 114,000 miles on my '08 OBS (M/T) and get an overall average of 27.0 MPG. In the winter months I get around 24-26 MPG and in the warmer months I get 28.8 - 30.1 MPG per tank. Oh, all this is open highway at ~ 73 MPH. Not bad...

I've been wanting a diesel for a long time. I keep toying with a VW TDI (older ones got better MPG, but age is a factor). Then I came across this EE20 engine. Oooh!!! But, if no one has ever done it before, then I'm not sure I'd want spend as much as a used TDI to convert my daily ride. Granted, AWD and diesel is ideal. Or keep driving my OBS as is.

It looks like in order to get the best performance and the best use of that engine, you need the following:
Engine package
Complete harness (not sure how to complete it)
Exhaust (unless existing exhaust fits)
Turbo (unless included somewhere)
Clutch kit (if needed)
Fly-wheel (if you don't have the right one)
Intake manifold (unless it comes with the complete engine?)
5 or 6 speed transmission

Looking at about $9,000 w/out taxes for just the parts.

I still curse Subaru for leading us on a wild goose chase for "bringing diesel to the US next year", for almost 5 model years, now.

This is an interesting read: http://boxerdiesel.com/engineering/en/01.html
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:57 PM   #20
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The new TDIs in vws aren't as bad as people think. I had a Mk4 without their bluetec diesel and I averaged over 40 on the worst days. The newer ones have a conservative tune to pass emissions, but with a simple flash tune people are getting a lot more mpg and torque so don't frown on the idea of a newer TDI. Emissions and smog testing made it difficult for vw to achieve the mileage they were prior to 2006 I believe when the new regulations came into play on diesels.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:07 PM   #21
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Oh to rally a grease powered subie.....
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:44 AM   #22
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like 04WhtWRX said it would cost nearly 9k to get most of the components. But what about all the other stuff? the seller never mentions anything about the fuel delivery system that is required....

If you are seriously considering a Subaru diesel in the U.S.A and dont mind getting you hands dirty(not optional) then your best bet is importing yourself a whole parts car....yep you heard me right. for 9k you can purchase a salvaged(wrecked) vehicle in the uk off of a site like copart and ship it home. In my opinion the ONLY way you could make a nice diesel swap is if you have all the components required AKA another vehicle.

And even then its gonna be a difficult task at best. Let me give you an example: current ej20's or ej25's have wiring that runs to the firewall on the passengers side then to the ecu on the pass side and then along the dash rebar tube to the fuse box on the drivers side after that it runs to the fuse box on the drivers side under the hood. On a uk car all that will be reversed as they steer on the right. same goes for the exhaust manifold where ours goes on the pass side theirs goes on the left.

Now some of you will say but how do you know that the engine will work reliably? its a gamble but then again where else are you gonna get a warranty for an engine thats not for sale by subaru in our country?


Its really not a finically wise decision to do a diesel swap but if one has the time, the money, and most importantly a wife that supports the swap then it is possible but very hard.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:20 PM   #23
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What are the best donor cars for this setup? What kind of ECU would be used? For gauges and cluster you could just use a Bluetooth Tablet for all your gauges..Man id love this.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:54 PM   #24
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http://www.rs25.com/forums/f128/1850...ap-stid-3.html

Here is a link to a guy that is in the middle of trying to get this swap up and running. I believe he is also the guy importing/selling the swaps. I don't think it is up and running yet but it gives a good idea of where to start and what all will be needed.
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In the case of this website, vs vans that use a rear mount boxer engine from the factory
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