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Old 10-19-2012, 11:24 AM   #251
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I cut and had my line re-brazed. I'll send you a picture

What kind of boost will you be running once its all together and tuned?
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:17 PM   #252
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And you're on a 2.0/bc 280 motor, correct?
si i am.. i blame the cams for the far right power band and spool up, but top end is pretty much AMAZING. 4600-7,800 feels pretty decent. i havent been past that. when I get tuned on e85, I plan on running 28-29psi. and hopefully rev it to 8,600 rpm.

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Old 10-19-2012, 07:28 PM   #253
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I cut and had my line re-brazed. I'll send you a picture

What kind of boost will you be running once its all together and tuned?
and I got the pics. im going to do that this weekend. thanks man. appreciate it
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:27 PM   #254
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This thread needs to get bumped!

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Old 11-29-2012, 11:39 AM   #255
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I have search and searched and probably searched too much becuase i can not find out if HX-35 can be use on turbo xs rotated kit.

Perrins kit (tuner) cost is quite a bit more, and i now wonder if it would be cheaper to have someone make me a v band dp, v band up w/ewg vband. I have a downpipe that i could ship that could be worked.

Any oppinons or experience welcomed
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:53 PM   #256
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I have search and searched and probably searched too much becuase i can not find out if HX-35 can be use on turbo xs rotated kit.

Perrins kit (tuner) cost is quite a bit more, and i now wonder if it would be cheaper to have someone make me a v band dp, v band up w/ewg vband. I have a downpipe that i could ship that could be worked.

Any oppinons or experience welcomed
I had an adapter made to be used with my stock up pipe. You can see in the picture above that fitment is pretty awesome. I also plan on having a v-band downpipe made locally. By my count I'm getting away with spending a lot less money than buying a kit minus the turbo. I can post up pictures of the adapter if you would like.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:59 AM   #257
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I had an adapter made to be used with my stock up pipe. You can see in the picture above that fitment is pretty awesome. I also plan on having a v-band downpipe made locally. By my count I'm getting away with spending a lot less money than buying a kit minus the turbo. I can post up pictures of the adapter if you would like.

That would be stellar, i am/was concerned with the "clocking" of the turbo as far placement is concerned. From what i read in the thread the holset must be positoned +or- 5 degrees to compensate for tilt back and such.

Other than that my main concern was height of the turbo when using the txs kit. So in essence i can use that adaptor and have my spare down pipe reworked into rotated correct.



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Old 11-30-2012, 02:42 PM   #258
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Here are some pictures of the adapter I had made.


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Old 12-19-2012, 08:55 PM   #259
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I had a hx35 on a 2.7 block, and it made more power than my fp red and built boost about 2k faster, it seems that the big difference between holset and other turbos, is that diesel turbos start building boost much much faster, I remember seeing 5 psi by like 2800 rpms in 4th gear, I dont have any facts to back it up but I promise they spool way better, but they dont give you that hit you in your face until like 20psi..... Its more gradual... I loved it, I will be showing pics of an hx60 on a suby... get ready for pics.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:21 AM   #260
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Hx60, super excited for pics! Assuming the passenger seat was removed for fitment?
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:31 AM   #261
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It weighs like 50 lbs... I got it off the bay for 200 bucks, I was going to make some type of big comparison..... but never got around to it... but its 6inch in and 6 inch out...... =)

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Old 12-20-2012, 10:33 AM   #262
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Good luck spooling it. Diesel trucks have a hard time spooling it.


Anyway does this exist? A billet wheel hx35 but a hx40 compressor cover and a bep vband hot side? I want a big cover but still good spool. And don't need more than the hx35.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:14 AM   #263
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ignore...moving right along.

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Old 12-20-2012, 11:25 AM   #264
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I had a hx35 on a 2.7 block, and it made more power than my fp red and built boost about 2k faster, it seems that the big difference between holset and other turbos, is that diesel turbos start building boost much much faster, I remember seeing 5 psi by like 2800 rpms in 4th gear, I dont have any facts to back it up but I promise they spool way better, but they dont give you that hit you in your face until like 20psi..... Its more gradual... I loved it, I will be showing pics of an hx60 on a suby... get ready for pics.
Eric, that HX60 will probably flow comparably with that S475 (75 or 85, don't recall) that you have.

As for the text from yesterday; I'd certainly hope that a 3.8L EG with an S475 is quicker than a 2.43 with an HX55
As for the spoolgate idea, tell your fab guy to size things correctly. I'd have used a 44-50mm gate for my crossover. The 60 might bleed pressure to quickly and prove to make tuning quite difficult...just a hint from someone that spent two years calibrating similar situations on diesel engines.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:48 PM   #265
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Good luck spooling it. Diesel trucks have a hard time spooling it.


Anyway does this exist? A billet wheel hx35 but a hx40 compressor cover and a bep vband hot side? I want a big cover but still good spool. And don't need more than the hx35.

Yes, its an HE351CW. This is a 69lb/min turbo with a 9cm hot side. The compressor is the same as a 7-blade HX40 but the hot side is very close to a HY35. Overall this is comparable to a FP black, but forget about stock location.... The v-band it comes with on the hot side is an odd size (its like a 3.83" v-band) so its best to just weld on a common size, mine is 4".

The alternative to this is to simply build a hybrid HX35/40.....
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Does a hx40 compressor cover fit on a hx35?
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That hx60 is almost 40% larger than that s475..... so if that is true... holset is doing it wrong... It must weigh 10 lbs more than the s475.. Ill post pics and you let me know if you think that the hx60 I have is comparable to the bw..... unless holset makes a larger than hx60...Dont hate micah...=)


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Eric, that HX60 will probably flow comparably with that S475 (75 or 85, don't recall) that you have.

As for the text from yesterday; I'd certainly hope that a 3.8L EG with an S475 is quicker than a 2.43 with an HX55
As for the spoolgate idea, tell your fab guy to size things correctly. I'd have used a 44-50mm gate for my crossover. The 60 might bleed pressure to quickly and prove to make tuning quite difficult...just a hint from someone that spent two years calibrating similar situations on diesel engines.
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Im going off research I did years ago so best to verify. You use the HX35 turbine housing, turbine, and CHRA, with the HX40 compressor and wheel. If Im remembering correctly there is just a bit of work to get the compressor to fit on the CHRA. Loads of info on this procedure just google HX40 hybrid. By the time your done buying two turbos or a mismash of parts to make it work, why not buy the off the shelf version of the hybrid, for the same price as a single HX40?
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I just did a quick search and see that the HX60 family is rated up to 0.95 kg/s (about 126 lb/min) and found an S480 (which size was it again?) map peaking at 0.90 kg/s (119 lb/min).

So yeah, the HX60 model, if the largest wheel, could flow about 50 more hp...going by the rule of thumb 10 lb/min = 100 hp.
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So.. I just did some measurements and I'm 90%sure it's a hx80 series which flows 196 lbs/min... So it's About 35lbs more than a s510......Can I spool it?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #271
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Im going off research I did years ago so best to verify. You use the HX35 turbine housing, turbine, and CHRA, with the HX40 compressor and wheel. If Im remembering correctly there is just a bit of work to get the compressor to fit on the CHRA. Loads of info on this procedure just google HX40 hybrid. By the time your done buying two turbos or a mismash of parts to make it work, why not buy the off the shelf version of the hybrid, for the same price as a single HX40?
Albertsondh is spot on. The HX40 comp cover and wheel on a HX35 CHRA is the HX40/35 hybrid. Add a HX40 BEP Batmowheel and you have yourself a billet wheel Hybrid. Thats what I am hoping to try next.

Tim's Turbo can convert your HX35 to a 40/35 hybrid pretty inexpensively.... if you already own an hx35. He can also just build a complete unit if you don't already have one. I'm not sure if he has worked with the Batmowheel but I plan to find out.
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So.. I just did some measurements and I'm 90%sure it's a hx80 series which flows 196 lbs/min... So it's About 35lbs more than a s510......Can I spool it?
Dumb.
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So do you know how many lbs/min a s598 flows? They spool those babies on supras.. I have or will have a 3.75 liter flat 6 with all the bells and whistles.....
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Exactly, diesel guys have a hard time spooling a hx60.
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