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Old 11-05-2012, 07:57 PM   #676
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I would like to order one as well, but im having trouble finding your email from the mobile app
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:06 PM   #677
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Any write ups on an aux hook up into an 08 sti with factory nav. Just saw the 3 inputs for video and audio. I want to hook up my iPhone for music using an aux cable. Did some searching and didn't find anything.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:01 PM   #678
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Hi SVXdc. I don't know if you have an opportunity to work with a 2013 WRX HU yet. But I'm planning to upgrade the speakers and add an infinity ref475a amplifer to my 2013 WRX Premium (5drs) once it arrives. I want to keep the stock HU (which I heard is the same with 2012) so I was wondering if you or anyone here can give me some pointer on how to do this? So far from my research I know I need to get one of your adapter and a LOC to make all this possible. But I have one noobie question: Is it possible to use the factory wiring at all with new speakers and an amp?
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Hi SVXdc. I don't know if you have an opportunity to work with a 2013 WRX HU yet. But I'm planning to upgrade the speakers and add an infinity ref475a amplifer to my 2013 WRX Premium (5drs) once it arrives. I want to keep the stock HU (which I heard is the same with 2012) so I was wondering if you or anyone here can give me some pointer on how to do this? So far from my research I know I need to get one of your adapter and a LOC to make all this possible. But I have one noobie question: Is it possible to use the factory wiring at all with new speakers and an amp?
Yep, I always use stock wiring.

I have his breakout harness on my 2013 and I am using the LC2i LOC. run the speaker out wires off the breakout harness side that you plug into to the headunit down to the loc and then the speaker wire from the amp back to the speaker wires on the breakout harness.

It's pretty easy, I did most of it in the dark and it was 40 degrees. I did wire my breakout harness ahead of time at my workbench though. I guess that helped with time
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Yep, I always use stock wiring.

I have his breakout harness on my 2013 and I am using the LC2i LOC. run the speaker out wires off the breakout harness side that you plug into to the headunit down to the loc and then the speaker wire from the amp back to the speaker wires on the breakout harness.

It's pretty easy, I did most of it in the dark and it was 40 degrees. I did wire my breakout harness ahead of time at my workbench though. I guess that helped with time
That's great to hear. I haven't look into too much about the LC2i as it's a bit costy. I was planning to use an average LOC around $30 or so to convert to the amp. I think I would just run wires from the new speakers to the amp.

Edit: Found out that the amplifier I'm planning to use actually takes High-level input directly from factory HU with the included adapter so I think I definitely don't need a LOC. Now if I can just figure out a way to use the factory speaker some how.

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Old 11-27-2012, 09:27 PM   #681
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New guy here...

I have a 2013 XV Crosstrek Premium with the standard head unit. I can get a 2013 factory navigation unit from a BRZ for relatively cheap. From the photos I have seen it looks identical to the one in the Impreza/Crosstrek. Does anyone know if it is a direct swap-in replacement for my stock head unit?
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:19 PM   #682
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New guy here...

I have a 2013 XV Crosstrek Premium with the standard head unit. I can get a 2013 factory navigation unit from a BRZ for relatively cheap. From the photos I have seen it looks identical to the one in the Impreza/Crosstrek. Does anyone know if it is a direct swap-in replacement for my stock head unit?
I have no idea. I own a 2013 Crosstrek premium and swapped out the HU for the one found in he Limited (non-Nav). It was a simple plug & play. However, my Crosstrek did not have the cable for the rear camera. What other wiring would you need for a NAv unit - antenna ???
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:08 AM   #683
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I have no idea. I own a 2013 Crosstrek premium and swapped out the HU for the one found in he Limited (non-Nav). It was a simple plug & play. However, my Crosstrek did not have the cable for the rear camera. What other wiring would you need for a NAv unit - antenna ???
I'm just wondering if the harnesses/connectors at the head unit location are the same across all of Subaru's vehicles, assuming they all use the same model nav headunit. That would mean there is a good chance of interoperability.

From what I can see, just the antenna. That's what I'm also wondering - did/does Subaru have separate wiring harnesses for their trim levels that do not have wiring for extra equipment, like the rear camera, GPS antenna, etc?
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That's great to hear. I haven't look into too much about the LC2i as it's a bit costy. I was planning to use an average LOC around $30 or so to convert to the amp. I think I would just run wires from the new speakers to the amp.

Edit: Found out that the amplifier I'm planning to use actually takes High-level input directly from factory HU with the included adapter so I think I definitely don't need a LOC. Now if I can just figure out a way to use the factory speaker some how.
A cheap loc or using the high level inputs will work, but with the terrible output of these headunits, you will benefit greatly from
Something like an lc2i or better. It electronically restores lost signal and makes it much more in line with what your amp should be receiving. I hooked up my amp with high level inputs first, the difference now is night and day. I have the gains way down and it's so much better than before with the gains maxed.

IMO do it right the first time and you won't have to waste time doing it twice like I did.

As far as running new speaker wire to all 4 doors, do what you want, but you are going to be wasting a ton of time and money on speaker wire that is not needed. Running to the doors is a big pain in the ass and is not going to make it sound better. Unless you are running a really high number of watts at a constant basis it's purely for show.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:54 AM   #685
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A cheap loc or using the high level inputs will work, but with the terrible output of these headunits, you will benefit greatly from
Something like an lc2i or better. It electronically restores lost signal and makes it much more in line with what your amp should be receiving. I hooked up my amp with high level inputs first, the difference now is night and day. I have the gains way down and it's so much better than before with the gains maxed.

IMO do it right the first time and you won't have to waste time doing it twice like I did.

As far as running new speaker wire to all 4 doors, do what you want, but you are going to be wasting a ton of time and money on speaker wire that is not needed. Running to the doors is a big pain in the ass and is not going to make it sound better. Unless you are running a really high number of watts at a constant basis it's purely for show.
Thanks for the inputs. The amplifier I'm using is the MS-A1004 that has a built in digital sound processor so using high-level input with it shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't mind using the factory wirings but if it isn't sufficient for the speakers I'm planning to use I rather do it right the first time like you said. I'm planning to use a pair for Kappa perfect 6.1 in front, and a pair of Kappa 63.9I in the rear. Do you think those factory wires are good enough for those speakers? Do you think they'll produce white noises?

I'm also not sure on how to use the factory wires with the stock HU. I am planing to use SVX's 20pin combined adapter to connect the HU to the amp. But I don't know how I can go about getting the amp signals send to the speakers factory wires.

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Old 11-28-2012, 12:57 PM   #686
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Thanks for the inputs. The amplifier I'm using is the MS-A1004 that has a built in digital sound processor so using high-level input with it shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't mind using the factory wirings but if it isn't sufficient for the speakers I'm planning to use I rather do it right the first time like you said. I'm planning to use a pair for Kappa perfect 6.1 in front, and a pair of Kappa 63.9I in the rear. Do you think those factory wires are good enough for those speakers? Do you think they'll produce white noises?

I'm also not sure on how to use the factory wires with the stock HU. I am planing to use SVX's 20pin combined adapter to connect the HU to the amp. But I don't know how I can go about getting the amp signals send to the speakers factory wires.
That amp is pretty cool! As far as white noise, how would that happen?

The amp pushes 100w RMS however how often does that full 100w actually get to the speakers. Do you listen at max volume at all times? Probably never will you do that.

As far as how you do it, the breakout harness has the colored White, Grey, Purple and Green for the speakers. These are single wires so you cut them in the middle run the side that now runs to the male connector(side that connects to the headunit) to the amp input. Then run the amp out wires back up to the breakout and connect to the other side of the wires you cut that run to the female connecter (the one that connects to the factory harness)

Use speed wire to make this extremely easy.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...y-Scosche.html
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I'm just wondering if the harnesses/connectors at the head unit location are the same across all of Subaru's vehicles, assuming they all use the same model nav headunit. That would mean there is a good chance of interoperability.

From what I can see, just the antenna. That's what I'm also wondering - did/does Subaru have separate wiring harnesses for their trim levels that do not have wiring for extra equipment, like the rear camera, GPS antenna, etc?
The premium XV Crosstrek has the following HU connectors / wires
Motorola Antenna jack
USB connector
16 pin (microphone, etc)
20 pin (power, speakers, SWC, etc)

Checkout ae64.com. Svxdc rules when it comes to Subaru wiring harnesses.

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That amp is pretty cool! As far as white noise, how would that happen?

The amp pushes 100w RMS however how often does that full 100w actually get to the speakers. Do you listen at max volume at all times? Probably never will you do that.

As far as how you do it, the breakout harness has the colored White, Grey, Purple and Green for the speakers. These are single wires so you cut them in the middle run the side that now runs to the male connector(side that connects to the headunit) to the amp input. Then run the amp out wires back up to the breakout and connect to the other side of the wires you cut that run to the female connecter (the one that connects to the factory harness)

Use speed wire to make this extremely easy.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...y-Scosche.html
I never max out my radio and usually only listen to music at medium-medium high level. At first I didn't really understand what cutting the wires then run it back to the other side mean but now that you show me those wires I understand what you guys were talking about now lol. So from the HU I cut the harnesses in half the end connected to the HU go to the amp then from the amp you connect the speakers out to the end going to the speakers!!! Now I'm fully understand this haha. Any recommendation on what Amp wiring kit I should use for that amp? I was thinking Rockford.
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I never max out my radio and usually only listen to music at medium-medium high level. At first I didn't really understand what cutting the wires then run it back to the other side mean but now that you show me those wires I understand what you guys were talking about now lol. So from the HU I cut the harnesses in half the end connected to the HU go to the amp then from the amp you connect the speakers out to the end going to the speakers!!! Now I'm fully understand this haha. Any recommendation on what Amp wiring kit I should use for that amp? I was thinking Rockford.
Nice, now that you get it, just make sure you don't cut any stock harness, ONLY cut the breakout harness you buy from David.

As far as amp kit, i like kicker because its high copper ct, but honestly just get something with good quality copper wire and you are fine.
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Nice, now that you get it, just make sure you don't cut any stock harness, ONLY cut the breakout harness you buy from David.

As far as amp kit, i like kicker because its high copper ct, but honestly just get something with good quality copper wire and you are fine.
Yea I am planning to use the 20pin combined harness to reduce the pain of slicing the factory wires. Can someone comfirm 2013 HU still has the same pin?

And from what I read the rockford kit I was looking at is 100% pure copper and true 4 AWG. These kits usually come with the patch/rca cable that I don't need since I'm just using the harness on the 20pin harness.
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Yea I am planning to use the 20pin combined harness to reduce the pain of slicing the factory wires. Can someone comfirm 2013 HU still has the same pin?

And from what I read the rockford kit I was looking at is 100% pure copper and true 4 AWG. These kits usually come with the patch/rca cable that I don't need since I'm just using the harness on the 20pin harness.
Yea I can confirm it has the same 20 pin.

Im sure the Rockford kit is fine. Could just buy 4g wire and an inline fuse and save a much of money vs a kit
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Yea I can confirm it has the same 20 pin.

Im sure the Rockford kit is fine. Could just buy 4g wire and an inline fuse and save a much of money vs a kit
I was thinking about buying the 4awg wires and the fuse and just cut and trim them myself but couldn't really find anywhere I can get just that. All that pulls up is the kit.
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I was thinking about buying the 4awg wires and the fuse and just cut and trim them myself but couldn't really find anywhere I can get just that. All that pulls up is the kit.
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Oh sweet. Thanks a lot for all the info. Now if my damn car would arrive already. Speakers and amp ordered.
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The premium XV Crosstrek has the following HU connectors / wires
Motorola Antenna jack
USB connector
16 pin (microphone, etc)
20 pin (power, speakers, SWC, etc)

Checkout ae64.com. Svxdc rules when it comes to Subaru wiring harnesses.

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Thanks for the info!
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I was planning on purchasing an OEM sub with the old style harness for my car ('97 Legacy OBW) and noticed the following in the information thread:
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This subwoofer and T-harness will work with any 1995-up stock Subaru radio (except SVX). It will also work with any after-market head unit (that has speaker-level outputs), as long as you don't cut off the factory radio plug and do use a wiring adaptor (AKA a "forward" harness). Simply connect the OEM sub's T-harness between the car's harness and your new HU, just like how it was with the stock radio
I have an aftermarket head unit (Pioneer DEH-4000UB) that has a sub preamp out I would like to use. Is there any reason that I can't separate the +/- L/R wires before the harness and run them to the preamp outputs, while leaving the power and other wires connected in the T-Harness? The main reason for this is I want a true crossover, as my reason for getting this sub is to get the bass frequencies out of my door speakers and the stock harness/setup does not allow for this.

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You would have to to get some inline crossover with separate high and low outputs. Tap into your existing t harness speaker wires to feed the lows and tap into you existing harness foe the highs. What are the frequency range of your door speakers? I'd imagine it wouldn't really pick up any say below 50hz or so but that's just my assumption.
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You would have to to get some inline crossover with separate high and low outputs. Tap into your existing t harness speaker wires to feed the lows and tap into you existing harness foe the highs. What are the frequency range of your door speakers? I'd imagine it wouldn't really pick up any say below 50hz or so but that's just my assumption.
The speakers I have supposedly go down to 30hz, but they don't do it very well, which I figure is a mix of them not being designed to hit that low and the bass echoing in the doors.

My head unit actually has a built in and adjustable two-way crossover for the sub preamp, which is why I want to use it of possible.
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I wonder which frequency your head unit separates the bass adjustment from the sub out level. If pioneer did it by the book 80hz and below is defined as subharmonic frequencies so perhaps the bass knob adjusts say somewhere between 60hz-100hz? And the sub out at 80hz and below?? IF that's the case than just turning the bass knob all the way down should get those sub harmonic frequencies out of your door speakers and you can compensate by turning up the sub out. Getting an OEM sub won't get you what you're looking for as it just taps the main speaker wire and won't get those frequencies out of your door speakers.
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I have a 2013 XV Crosstrek Premium with the standard head unit. [model CM621UB, Clarion PF-3386A-A, same as in some 2012-up Imprezas]

I can get a 2013 factory navigation unit [Fujitsu Ten] from a BRZ for relatively cheap. From the photos I have seen it looks identical to the one in the Impreza/Crosstrek. Does anyone know if it is a direct swap-in replacement for my stock head unit?
The BRZ and Impreza/Forester versions of the FT nav are very similar to each other, but they have some subtle differences (e.g., model numbers, and BRZ has a pin for amp remote turn-on).

Physical size on the FT nav HUs is the same as your CM621UB, but all of the harness connections on the nav HU are different. See this post for the pin-outs (#9 in lateral's '2012 nav' thread). Post #4 there has pictures of the back of the HU and harnesses.

I could put together several of the harnesses you would need to transplant the FT nav into your XV (or into an Impreza or Forester). A few parts I have a very limited supply of currently, or in the case of the nav's USB socket, nothing that fits.

I haven't checked whether the FT nav's XM antenna socket is the same as on Subaru's accessory sat radio tuner boxes (in any case, I don't have anything that fits that or the GPS antenna socket).

Given all that, how serious are you about wanting to do this?

If you go forward with it, you should try to get the seller to include the OEM GPS antenna and all of its cable (Subaru still puts it above the instrument cluster and it's not too difficult to remove).

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