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Old 11-30-2012, 08:53 PM   #101
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Has anyone been in an A-line before?
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #102
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How bout a volkswagen golf? DSG transmissions are not that hard to come by.
Before my 2012 WRX I had a 2008 R32. The paddle shift trans was the main reason I hated that car. YES, in a straight line it shifts really fast, so if your goal is 1/4 miles times, go for it. I tried an autoX Solo II event and it was fukciin useless. It was upset the chassis and won't hold a gear.

Let's say I am in 3rd, and I have a hard braking zone coming up, going into an increasing radius turn. I want to stay in 3rd as the 3.2L V6 has plenty of low end torque to drive smoothly out of the turn and into the next straight....

The damn thing downshifts to 2nd as the RPM drops.

Or, lets say a Solo I event, a little faster. As I near redline in 2nd, trans in Manual mode, I reach red line and click the paddle to the next gear. OOOPss, a little too late and the car decides to go up a gear on it's own, so I just went up 2 gears.


The around town, the stupid thing shifts slowly and when it wants. It's like the DSG works well as higher RPM, but in traffic it's a mess.

or 2012 VW replaced the R32, DSG only with the R20, manual only.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:47 AM   #103
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The around town, the stupid thing shifts slowly and when it wants. It's like the DSG works well as higher RPM, but in traffic it's a mess.
Unfortunately, they're highly sensitive to programming. I haven't driven any of VW's versions, but I have driven BMW's and Porsche's. BMW's is horrible - violent and doesn't have good shift profiles. Porsche's earlier PDK (Porsche's name for dual clutch) transmissions are ok - they have good shift profiles, but shift too violently in the sportier modes. But the later cars I've driven... I recently turned a number of laps in a Cayman R with PDK. I had it in Sport Plus mode (the most aggressive shift profile), and it shifted both smoothly and exactly as I wanted it to. On the street in normal mode, PDK is both very smooth and shifts early for fuel mileage. In "Sport" mode it shifts mostly smoothly (just a bit of a rocking to feel "sporty") and it holds gears longer. On the street, my personal preference is actually normal mode with manual override - I like the smoothness and neither choose gears as I normally would on the street. But for a boring commute, normal mode is perfect. For back-roads fun, Sport mode is perfect. And for tossing it around on the track, Sport Plus is perfect.

That's not nearly as accessible as the VW's, that's true. But as time goes on, this better programming will work its way down into other cars. I'm sure some will always suck, because some manufacturers just don't care, but the technology has the ability to be great.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:56 AM   #104
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Also, horde sucks. Alliance for the win. I had to come up with some sort of reply so I could post that.
Am I the only one that caught this? Lol
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:53 PM   #105
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Look at the Australian version of the engine....manual vs. autostick.....Auto has lower torque and no DCCD and curb Weight diffrence between the 2 is 20 lbs

Performance Manual Automatic
Maximum power output (DIN) 221kW@6000rpm 221kW@6200rpm
Maximum torque (DIN) 407Nm@4000rpm 350Nm@3000-6000rpm
Acceleration# 0 - 100 km/h 4.9 seconds AU test* 4.9 seconds AU test*


http://subaru.com.au/wrx-sti/spec.r-sedan/specs
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:43 PM   #106
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curb Weight diffrence between the 2 is 20 lbs
Finally. Thank you.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:44 PM   #107
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Look at the Australian version of the engine....manual vs. autostick.....Auto has lower torque and no DCCD and curb Weight diffrence between the 2 is 20 lbs

Performance Manual Automatic
Maximum power output (DIN) 221kW@6000rpm 221kW@6200rpm
Maximum torque (DIN) 407Nm@4000rpm 350Nm@3000-6000rpm
Acceleration# 0 - 100 km/h 4.9 seconds AU test* 4.9 seconds AU test*


http://subaru.com.au/wrx-sti/spec.r-sedan/specs
Yeah the AT has some trouble with reliability will higher levels of torque. That's why it's destined. Hard to offer a warranty with the higher torque. But that's why a built AT is such a great thing. Don't have one yet, but drove one once and it was fun.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:59 PM   #108
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Am I the only one that caught this? Lol
Nope, been fighting the urge to post how only a pillowhumpingasssniffinghahaweblewuptheramoreftmfw would play alliance!
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