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Old 11-29-2012, 11:11 PM   #26
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This thing is fresh! Good job Subaru minus no manual for turbo model...
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:20 PM   #27
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No mpg ratings for the new turbo engine??
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:22 PM   #28
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From what I've heard from a local dealership, there is still a tmic, but it has ductwork from the top of the grill flowing under the hood to the tmic.
this is true. see engine photos here:
http://subiesport.tv/site/2012/11/20...ster-revealed/
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:29 PM   #29
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This thing is fresh! Good job Subaru minus no manual for turbo model...

Hasn't had one since 09.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:37 PM   #30
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Hasn't had one since 09.
If I read the details correctly, did they finally move away from the 4 spd auto to a CVT for the XT? I would hope that it would at least be an improvement?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:05 AM   #31
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Yes, no more 4EAT, only CVT, which should be a huge improvement.

SOA Blog has stated that the Forester XT manual wasn't selling enough. This was confirmed by other members that are Subaru sales reps that claimed the Forester XT manuals wouldn't leave the lots for months at a time. It's unfortunate for us enthusiasts that so many people don't care about such things. A 6-speed manual Forester XT would be the hotness for sure.

I'm really curious to see how many people will buy a Forester XT FA20DIT engine and drop it in the BRZ/FR-S? I know I want to try! The low-mounting of the turbo makes it kind of iffy for me, though... the cars are already so low to the ground.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:47 PM   #32
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I'm really curious to see how many people will buy a Forester XT FA20DIT engine and drop it in the BRZ/FR-S? I know I want to try! The low-mounting of the turbo makes it kind of iffy for me, though... the cars are already so low to the ground.
There's a very good chance Subaru will do that for you. As well as that car has sold, how popular it's been in the tuner scene, after market turbo kits have been made, all on top of everyone raving about the BRZ STI look and wanting more power....from a marketing standpoint, they'd be crazy not to put that motor in it.

Nissan blew it by not bringing the turbo motor in the 240sx, Mazda hit it big with the twin turbo RX-7 (is it the FD?), , Toyota hit it big with the turbo Supra, and Hyundai's Genesis coupe has done well.

Subaru and Toyota can't make the mistake of missing out on building this car. I'd think they could build it and still keep the price between $26-28k with a couple package options.

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Old 11-30-2012, 02:40 PM   #33
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I would agree, except that the BRZ is a very, very low-volume vehicle. Projected 6k a year and people STILL are on waiting lists for them? And then throwing a turbo-charged variant for substantially more money on top of that? Marketing, sure, but financially, it just doesn't make sense. SOA Blog has stated that they only made the BRZ because Toyota had already commissioned the GT-86/FR-S and Subaru wanted us to have something, too, because they are so proud of what they engineered.

Add to that the fact that the creator of the GT-86 recently interviewed about how a turbocharged variant isn't approved by his design philosophy... People want a LOT of things. That doesn't mean they always get it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:33 PM   #34
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Nice. This gen looks way better than the last one.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:19 PM   #35
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waiting on the 2.0 DIT to replace the family unit....
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:01 PM   #36
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So XT is CVt only? Lame! Should be a 5 or 6 spd auto. Not a fan of the front or the add on tacky ground effects either. Wife has an 09 and other than the 4spd I love it.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:54 PM   #37
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So XT is CVt only? Lame! Should be a 5 or 6 spd auto. Not a fan of the front or the add on tacky ground effects either. Wife has an 09 and other than the 4spd I love it.
Thankfully Subaru knows it doesn't matter if someone like you finds it lame since the majority will buy CVT and automatics when it comes to the Subaru Forester XT trims.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:54 PM   #38
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:18 PM   #39
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Why are they getting so much bigger?
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:00 PM   #40
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So XT is CVt only? Lame! Should be a 5 or 6 spd auto. Not a fan of the front or the add on tacky ground effects either. Wife has an 09 and other than the 4spd I love it.
CVT is MUCH smoother than a 4+ speed automatic. Have you driven one? I have and many others have, also. I have yet to hear anyone say they prefer the traditional automatic over the CVT after using the CVT. Now CVT vs Manual is a whole other debate.

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Why are they getting so much bigger?
Competing with the market. It's a "crossover SUV".
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:19 AM   #41
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thumbs up for new design!!! looks way better and as i forester owner i still think the 04 05 is the best looking but this looks really good!! but not a fan of loosing the engine size. i thought it was dumb when they took the 257 out and gave the 06+ the 255.. i feel like they keep down stepping the power capabilities of these sleeper.. maybe a 2.0 in the NAs and at least the 255 in the XT!! i am excited to see what the new X-mode is all about... ! but good work subaru!! looks great!
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:06 PM   #42
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thumbs up for new design!!! looks way better and as i forester owner i still think the 04 05 is the best looking but this looks really good!! but not a fan of loosing the engine size. i thought it was dumb when they took the 257 out and gave the 06+ the 255.. i feel like they keep down stepping the power capabilities of these sleeper.. maybe a 2.0 in the NAs and at least the 255 in the XT!! i am excited to see what the new X-mode is all about... ! but good work subaru!! looks great!
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In the Forester 2.5i Limited and Touring and all 2.0XT models, a new X-Mode feature provides optimized control of the engine, transmission shift pattern, Active AWD front/rear clutching force, brakes, VDC and other critical systems to provide better wheel control on slippery surfaces and steep inclines.

Also in those models, Hill Descent Control, which is automatically engaged with the X-mode, uses the VDC system to help maintain a constant vehicle speed when the Forester is travelling downhill to help enhance control.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:29 PM   #43
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Will have to see it in person. I like the current model for a secondary wife + kids type of car. The OP photo looks like the old Fozzie, but the other pics show a lot more.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:58 AM   #44
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No diesel no care. Really. I mean that.
Same page as you. Been lusting over a 40mpg AWD Outback for many years.

All these changes just make me all the more glad I snagged a 2009 Outback XT 5-sp (with a vf-52 swap now ).
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:17 AM   #45
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CVT = Motorboat feeling

Subaru really needs to work on their transmissions.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:52 AM   #46
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CVT = Motorboat feeling

Subaru really needs to work on their transmissions.
For the current Subaru vehicles in the USDM market or for the 2014 Subaru Forester which you haven't even driven yet? Because if it's for the latter you're just another retard who can't drive for ****.

Don't assume the 2014 Subaru Forester CVT transmission is as dull as your brain. You're the only one with a motorboat feeling. ;D
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:17 PM   #47
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For the current Subaru vehicles in the USDM market or for the 2014 Subaru Forester which you haven't even driven yet? Because if it's for the latter you're just another retard who can't drive for ****.

Don't assume the 2014 Subaru Forester CVT transmission is as dull as your brain. You're the only one with a motorboat feeling. ;D
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:58 PM   #48
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It's challenging.
I know. Especially for someone with your ignorance.

It's fortunate people like you don't matter as much to the car industry anymore because your opinions are obviously ignorant of the fact that things can change and be different. Just because you've had bad experiences with CVT's in the past doesn't mean the one in the 2014 Subaru Forester is automatically the same. But I don't need to tell you that because you're far too ignorant to grasp that concept.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:41 AM   #49
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It's challenging to enjoy the cool people/builds at Nasioc anymore because of people like you.
Seriously, just put him on ignore and the average intelligence of threads instantly doubles.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:01 AM   #50
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it's on the previous gen models too. Kinda nice actually, easy accsess, and the way its made, no mess.

*edit* i like the design, i miss the scoop mustangs and challengers have nonfunctional scoops! aero-smero-dynamics.
Thats good to know. I guess, I thought it would be pretty messy. Although most of the oil probably just drains out.?
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