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Old 12-03-2012, 11:49 AM   #1
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Porsche’s completely-redesigned 2013 Boxster was a major step forward for the German brand, and it looks like the all-new 2013 Cayman will offer the same progress in a hard-top version. The new car certainly looks better (in our eyes, anyway), and we’ll tell you exactly how much better it is to drive as soon as we get some seat time.

For now, the new Cayman offers buyers the choice of a 2.7-liter flat-six good for 275 horsepower (in base models), or a 3.4-liter flat-six rated at 325 horsepower (in S models). While the new Cayman models are more fuel efficient than those of the previous generation, Porsche knows it still needs to step up its game to meet future fuel economy and emission standards.

We’ve known since September of 2011 that Porsche was working on a four-cylinder boxer engine, which is historically significant since that’s what powered Porsche’s first efforts. Now, Italian website 0 - 100 is advising that this engine will debut, in turbocharged form, in the engine bay of a Porsche Cayman at the 2013 Frankfurt Auto Show.

Expect the range-topping model to be called the Porsche Cayman Turbo. Its 2.5-liter boxer engine is said to be good for 350 horsepower and 369 pound-feet of torque, and it will come bolted to Porsche’s dual-clutch PDK transmission only.

The same 2.5-liter flat-four engine will fit in the Boxster as well, so we’d be surprised if Porsche didn’t introduce a turbocharged variant of this car, too. Since the “Baby Boxster” is now on hold, it’s possible that Porsche would fit a normally-aspirated flat-four in the base Cayman and Boxster to attract even more buyers.

While performance figures for the still-fictional Cayman Turbo have yet to be released, that’s a serious amount of thrust for Cayman and (potentially) Boxster models. It makes us wonder what steps Porsche will take to prevent the Cayman Turbo and Boxster Turbo from pirating sales of the Porsche 911, which brings the company higher margins.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:20 PM   #2
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While I would have loved to see an RS version with a Metzger for real men, lol ok ok...

Sounds great, especially the torque - wonder if weight will come down even more with this - and makes me think the 991 turbo might be a significant performance leap forward.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:27 PM   #3
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and it will come bolted to Porsche’s dual-clutch PDK transmission only.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:52 PM   #4
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Holy **** this car will be fast.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:58 PM   #5
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Yeah it can be fast. But not right off the showroom floor!
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:27 PM   #6
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Yea, I immediately was like, 'oh no.'

I wonder if Porsche has a team dedicated to differentiating this engines' sound from that of a similarly situated Subaru system.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:07 PM   #7
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Yea, I immediately was like, 'oh no.'

I wonder if Porsche has a team dedicated to differentiating this engines' sound from that of a similarly situated Subaru system.
Would Porsche use the same crappy single scroll setup we see in the USDM Subarus?
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Yeah it can be fast. But not right off the showroom floor!
Yes, I'm sure it can hardly get out of its own way.
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Since this thing will most likely outperform the base Carrera not just in feel but in lab times, I would assume that Porsche will price it accordingly. My guess would be ~$75K without any options? Maybe even that's low balling it.
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Since this thing will most likely outperform the base Carrera not just in feel but in lab times, I would assume that Porsche will price it accordingly. My guess would be ~$75K without any options? Maybe even that's low balling it.
No, that's probably right on. That would peg the lowest sticker price Porsche will ever print for one of these in the US at $90k. Porsche. If you can gouge, you gouge.
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Yea, I immediately was like, 'oh no.'

Aaand lost me too.


Bummer Porsche, bummer.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
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Aaand lost me too.


Bummer Porsche, bummer.
Actually I was oh no-ing a possible manual vs. auto forum skirmish.

A Cayman T not coming in a stick shouldn't matter, the base and S models should always have one available for those so inclined.

Can't help myself...

As the purists will point out from non-experience, the slower but responsive non-turbo versions are the ones you'll want anyhow as they give a more pleasurable driving experience, just like their 10 year old beater economy cars. Meanwhile, Mike Sorrentino or some equivalent rich white male will chime in saying that the impoverished purists just don't get it, (DSG is faster? You don't say?) fun is for poor people and keep out of their way on the track since they'll be driving a GTR anyhow.
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As the purists will point out from non-experience, the slower but responsive non-turbo versions are the ones you'll want anyhow as they give a more pleasurable driving experience, just like their 10 year old beater economy cars. Meanwhile, Mike Sorrentino or some equivalent rich white male will chime in saying that the impoverished purists just don't get it, (DSG is faster? You don't say?) fun is for poor people and keep out of their way on the track since they'll be driving a GTR anyhow.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:58 PM   #14
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YOu mean those rich white males that cannot drive fast enough to get out of the way of my 42 year old Datsun on a track...

riiiiiiight. got it.
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