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Old 11-30-2012, 08:42 PM   #1
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DEARBORN, Mich., November 30, 2012 – Ford Motor Company today announced a voluntary safety recall of 2013 Ford Escape SE and SEL models equipped with the 1.6-liter engine and 2013 Ford Fusion SE and SEL models equipped with the 1.6-liter engine.

Ford estimates that there are approximately 73,320 Escapes and 15,833 Fusions produced and distributed for sale in the U.S. and Canada with 1.6-liter engines, with most in the U.S. market. The issue does not affect 2013 Escape or 2013 Fusion models with other engines.

Customers driving 2013 Escape vehicles equipped with the 1.6-liter engine and 2013 Fusion models equipped with the 1.6-liter engine are advised to contact their dealer as soon as possible to arrange for alternative transportation at no charge. Repair procedures are not currently available.

Ford is voluntarily recalling these vehicles because of reports of engine overheating, resulting in engine fires while the engine is running. No injuries have been reported.
Some drivers who have experienced high engine temperatures followed by engine fires say that their clusters have shown the message “Engine Power Reduced to Lower Temps” or “Engine over temp, stop safely.” Some also indicated that their instrument clusters sounded a chime and illuminated a red light.

Drivers who see any of these indications should safely pull off the road as soon as possible, turn off the engine and exit the vehicle. Ford will compensate owners for costs tied to overheating as well.

“We have identified an issue and are taking actions in the best interest of our customers,” said Steve Kenner, director of Ford’s Automotive Safety Office. “It is important that affected customers not ignore this recall and contact their dealer as soon as possible. While we recognize the inconvenience recalls cause our customers, we are taking these actions on their behalf to help ensure their safety.”

Ford is working on a repair procedure. When parts are available, the company will notify customers so they can schedule a service appointment with dealers.

Meanwhile, Ford is advising affected owners to contact a Ford dealer as soon as possible for alternative transportation at no cost to the customer; U.S. owners also may call 866-436-7332 and Canadian customers also may call 888-222-7814 for details on securing alternative transportation.

Customers can see if they are affected by the recall by:

Checking their 17-digit VIN, located on a label on the driver door opening, at the base of the windshield on the driver’s side of their vehicle, or on their vehicle registration. In vehicles with 1.6-liter engines, the eighth character will be “X” on Escapes or “R” on Fusions;
Logging onto Ford.com, click “View Notices and Recalls” in the “Support” tab and input their VIN to determine if their vehicle is part of the recall;
Calling 866-436-7332 in the U.S. or 888-222-7814 in Canada; or
Contacting a Ford dealer


Escapes equipped with 2.0-liter and the 2.5-liter engines are unaffected. Fusions equipped with the 2.5-liter and hybrid engines are also unaffected – as are all Titanium models.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:24 PM   #2
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"We have identified an issue..."

Really, that's all the explanation we get?
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:27 PM   #3
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"We have identified an issue..."

Really, that's all the explanation we get?
Just keepcalm.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:35 AM   #4
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taps foot impatiently while waiting for the US Dept of Transportation Secretary to come on TV and tell the nation to stop driving Ford's.

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Old 12-01-2012, 07:28 AM   #5
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taps foot impatiently while waiting for the US Dept of Transportation Secretary to come on TV and tell the nation to stop driving Ford's.

Driving Ford's what?
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:12 AM   #6
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ZOMG! We better all stop driving these new fangled contraptions that burn oil based fuels. They can just start on fire! Everyone knows when you expose them to oxygen and heat it is dangerous.

Anyway on a more serious note this is going to cost a decent bit to provide alternative transportation to all these people while they try and figure out what is going on.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #7
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"... Repair procedures are not currently available."

I hate to be an engineer involved in designing/testing this engine.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:27 PM   #8
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I think the problem is that you've got a teeny 1.6t hauling around 2 tons of steel and it just wants to die.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:50 PM   #9
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You still owe me $100, topgun. I haven't forgotten.
The fact that you made a new screen name after you got banned doesn't get you out of losing a bet.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:11 PM   #10
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Pfft,

I drive an old VW bus, we were setting engines on fire before it was cool.


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Old 12-01-2012, 07:31 PM   #11
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You still owe me $100, topgun. I haven't forgotten.
The fact that you made a new screen name after you got banned doesn't get you out of losing a bet.
Oh, snap.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:21 PM   #12
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You still owe me $100, topgun. I haven't forgotten.
The fact that you made a new screen name after you got banned doesn't get you out of losing a bet.
BOOM.

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Old 12-01-2012, 11:37 PM   #13
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I think the problem is that you've got a teeny 1.6t hauling around 2 tons of steel and it just wants to die.

The 1.6T Escape weighs ~3500lbs and the Fusion weighs between 3300 and 3400lbs. Not light, but not two tons either.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:09 AM   #14
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The number of regular vehicles that light on fire is significant anyway. To top that and require this sort of recall it mush be pretty bad. They probably have some simple thing wrong that they just overlooked like faulty insulation on wiring or some tiny silly thing they haven't tracked down yet. Small mistakes can lead to big problems after all.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:38 AM   #15
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I bet it's a bad tune.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:27 PM   #16
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One hint of the problems come from an October complaint to federal auto safety officials from a 2013 Ford Escape owner, who said a few days having the two previous engine fire recalls completed, their Escape broke down on the freeway and burned.

"There was a 'pop' sound in the engine area. Instantly, the accelerator had no response, the high engine temperature warning light came on, and then all warning lights, gauges, & tachometer all went dead. Luckily, we were adjacent to an exit ramp, and we coasted to a stop...Immediately, white steam came out of the engine compartment. Knowing the third recall dealt with the "risk of engine fires", we got out, and moved well away from the vehicle. Within minutes, brown, oily smoke came out from under the hood. Then flames came out from under the hood, at the windshield and out the sides of the engine compartment. Then the car burst into flames and was destroyed.
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The 1.6T Escape weighs ~3500lbs and the Fusion weighs between 3300 and 3400lbs. Not light, but not two tons either.
Oh I just knew someone was gonna pick that nit.

Really though, the first thing I thought after reading the full details was inadequate cooling system. Like, the engine working harder than anticipated for too long and overheating. Maybe need a new radiator and bigger pump pulley. But the chances of any car manufacturer screwing that up are nill. Probably a goofed sensor, bad thermostats or some such thing.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:18 PM   #18
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I think the problem is that you've got a teeny 1.6t hauling around 2 tons of steel and it just wants to die.
And that doesn't even include the average 400lb lead footed heifers we have driving around in America.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:47 PM   #19
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I think the problem is that you've got a teeny 1.6t hauling around 2 tons of steel and it just wants to die.
I think the problem is that Ford in the past couple of years has really had a lot of reliability issues hence their 2nd last reliability ranking. I had to unload my 2012 Mustang because it was a steaming pile of hot garbage. Had to take a loss on a trade as I couldn't sell it privately knowing how many problems it had. I wouldn't touch a new Ford with a 10 foot pole. Something has changed with them over the past couple of years and all their models are plagued with problems. Lots of assembling and manufacturing of parts in China and Mexico.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #20
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Ford has always historically been "slow" to address recalls and the handling procedures with part allocation etc. I remember a few years ago a recall that affected the Mazda Tribute/Ford Escape vehicles. Mazda issued a recall several years before Ford had for the same concern and when addressed Ford said that they recommend the customer not drive the vehicle until they have parts available to repair the problem.

I work in the auto industry (dealer tech) and deal with recalls constantly and the manufacturer I work for is leaps and bounds better. I wouldnt buy a Ford product just based on how they handle these issues.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:36 PM   #21
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I think the problem is that Ford in the past couple of years has really had a lot of reliability issues hence their 2nd last reliability ranking. I had to unload my 2012 Mustang because it was a steaming pile of hot garbage. Had to take a loss on a trade as I couldn't sell it privately knowing how many problems it had. I wouldn't touch a new Ford with a 10 foot pole. Something has changed with them over the past couple of years and all their models are plagued with problems. Lots of assembling and manufacturing of parts in China and Mexico.
Eh i drive my 2012 Boss 302 hard and it doesn't skip a beat.
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