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Old 12-06-2012, 02:09 AM   #1
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I was planning on fitting my engine with ARP studs and main bolts till I found out they would cost me $600 combined! that is insane for bolts! are there other routes I can take or should I stick at stock? I ordered Manley forged pistons and eagle H beam rods so it will handle abuse of 450+ whp but I plan to achieve only 350. ideas?
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:39 AM   #2
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why do you need main bolts?
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:39 AM   #3
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why do you need main bolts?
just trying to build a motor that hopefully will never have problems.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:42 AM   #4
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just trying to build a motor that hopefully will never have problems.
then you shouldn't be scared of spending money. motor builds are EXPENSIVE.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:51 AM   #5
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better is pay for good parts for motor build than for refurbish engine..
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:53 AM   #6
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just trying to build a motor that hopefully will never have problems.
i would suggest doing about a months more reading...you arent ready for a build of this magnitude if you are unsure about getting ARP main bolts.

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add to the price of those bolts a nice line hone and that'll put ya well over a grand for just those 2 parts.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:14 AM   #7
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i would suggest doing about a months more reading...you arent ready for a build of this magnitude if you are unsure about getting ARP main bolts.

no offense.

add to the price of those bolts a nice line hone and that'll put ya well over a grand for just those 2 parts.
I already had the home figured out but for some reason I remembered the ARP's for my truck being cheaper. maybe I'm crazy?
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:34 AM   #8
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Do it right the the first time.


I did ARP case bolts, head studs, and rod bolts
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:40 AM   #9
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Do it right the the first time.

I did ARP case bolts, head studs, and rod bolts
what was the total? I got my pricing from JSC. I'll have to bite my lip and pay up it looks like! I don't want to have problems later down the road especially since these motors can't be worked on while in the car
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:37 AM   #10
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Shoot me a PM with what you need and maybe I can help you out. A motor build is extensive and a large investment. Rule of thumb, be READY to pay the double amount of your budget if stuff requires attention/replacement right away. It can get costly quick.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:39 AM   #11
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At 350 whp you don't need ARP anything.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:41 AM   #12
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I didn't get ARP case bolts for my motor, I stuck with stock for that, but I did go with ARP H11's for my studs.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:52 PM   #13
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At 350 whp you don't need ARP anything.
that's what I was thinking. it's getting a 20g turbo and a big tmic with EQL headers. besides that, I have invidia turbo back, aps 65mm intake pulling from the fender, and 1,000cc injectors. although arp would be a great piece of mind! I'll more than likely do it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:28 PM   #14
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Dom told me I didn't need ARP head studs, but I wanted the peace of mind as well. Just do them if you can afford it. It'll keep your mind at ease.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:48 PM   #15
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Do some research in the "Built Motor"

I think you'll find that your stock block is fine. Doesn't sound like you're changing any internals.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:51 PM   #16
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I didn't get ARP case bolts for my motor, I stuck with stock for that, but I did go with ARP H11's for my studs.

Thats what I did on my last two strokers.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:55 PM   #17
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that's what I was thinking. it's getting a 20g turbo and a big tmic with EQL headers. besides that, I have invidia turbo back, aps 65mm intake pulling from the fender, and 1,000cc injectors. although arp would be a great piece of mind! I'll more than likely do it.

Add meth, stroker and it looks like my build. I just used arp head and rod bolts. We are along ways from needing block bolts.

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Old 12-06-2012, 03:55 PM   #18
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Dom and I briefly spoke about them and he said that the regular ARP studs aren't much better (if at all) than the stock bolts. I don't think he would have let me spend money on the regular ARP studs He's a good dude. Puts up with a metric **** ton of questions from me...
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:57 PM   #19
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Doesn't sound like you're changing any internals.
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that's what I was thinking. it's getting a 20g turbo and a big tmic with EQL headers. besides that, I have invidia turbo back, aps 65mm intake pulling from the fender, and 1,000cc injectors. although arp would be a great piece of mind! I'll more than likely do it.
Why not fill out your profile so we know what car you are working with. With the mods listed, you only hope to hit 350?
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:13 PM   #21
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I'm guessing 08+ WRX and he's worried about the stock tranny so he's going to keep it around 350.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #22
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I'm guessing 08+ WRX and he's worried about the stock tranny so he's going to keep it around 350.
here's my story, slipped a rod bearing and limped home. luckily I was a mere 1/2 mile from home. it's my 03 wrx and I want to build it to be fast but still last 100,000-150,000 miles. trying to save the tranny so I'm gonna stick with the stock clutch. the plan is to put the H beam rods and forged pistons in, stock cams, oem gaskets, get the crank, flywheel, and pressure plate balanced, and BC valves. 3 months after I finish the motor I'll add the 20g turbo and gt spec equal length headers. an intake manifold MAY be in the list but not for sure. gonna stick with TMIC. I already have the invidia turbo back, 1,000cc injectors, and the APS 65mm cold air. it should be capable of 420+ but I'm hoping to maybe run low boost and sit around 350.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:48 PM   #23
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Well, at 350whp with your tranny, I'd be worried. At 420whp... good luck.
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He can write a long post, but not fill out his profile.

And you can upgrade your clutch while the motor is out. Plus the whole "glass transmission" argument is about as dumb as all the ringland arguments.
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He can write a long post, but not fill out his profile.

And you can upgrade your clutch while the motor is out. Plus the whole "glass transmission" argument is about as dumb as all the ringland arguments.
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