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Old 12-04-2012, 10:08 AM   #51
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Thats good to know. I guess, I thought it would be pretty messy. Although most of the oil probably just drains out.?
Why would they design an engine, make it harder or messier for routine maintenance, and then put it in their second best selling vehicle? That doesn't make any sense at all if you're trying to sell a car to the general consumer.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:18 AM   #52
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I dig it. To bad my parents went and bought an OutbaCk. Maybe I can get them to change when this comes out.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:22 PM   #53
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Anyone else notice that redline is now at 6k? I would have thought that the 2.0L would rev higher than the 2.5L motors?
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:50 AM   #54
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I'm going to keep my comments to myself on the design...
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:55 AM   #55
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Fugly... like most of Subaru's new lineup. (like most new vehicles for that matter) But that's just my opinion, if you guys like it, then right on! Mileage rating is pretty solid. Stick that turbo 2.0 in the BRZ already.....
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:33 PM   #56
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I'm going to keep my comments to myself on the design...
Here-here!

I miss the long and low "hearse" look of the days gone by seems like Subaru is catering to the soccer mom who thinks height in a vehicle = safety
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:30 AM   #57
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Here-here!

I miss the long and low "hearse" look of the days gone by seems like Subaru is catering to the soccer mom who thinks height in a vehicle = safety
Lol I totally know what you're saying about soccer mom types and their idea of safety (so true) and maybe Subaru will get more customers buying the new Forester for that reason. But IDK if they're really catering towards that type per say. I mean they did actually add what sounds to be a nice off road feature with the "X mode function" and from the Japanese test drive videos I've seen it looks like they are trying to push the off-road capability and sportability of it.

I know that I am seriously considering trading my 2012 WRX for one because I really like the looks of the new design compared to older models, I could definitely use the extra ground clearance and cargo space for the off roading I've been doing a lot of lately, yet it seems like it will still drive sporty enough onroad for me. Obviously won't be near WRX performance in that respect, but it seems like it will outperform most of the other compact SUV's in it's price range.

I've never really even considered the Forester of previous gens though because I personally didn't like the boxy square look it had and it didn't seem to have good enough clearance with the overhang to really warrant buying an SUV type vehicle.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:55 AM   #58
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CVT is MUCH smoother than a 4+ speed automatic. Have you driven one? I have and many others have, also. I have yet to hear anyone say they prefer the traditional automatic over the CVT after using the CVT.
Let me be the first. I drove a loaner 2011 Outback with 2.5 and CVT for a few days. I prefer a 4 spd automatic ;-)

My issue is with the standing start. It just falls flat, sorta scary pulling out into traffic, you have to be quick across the oncoming lane around Boston and the CVT can't get it done. That is my only problem with the whole thing but for me it would be a deal breaker. The Nissan version in the Altima is not as bad standing start it is livable. Maybe they have fixed that with the latest versions.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #59
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The 2014 Forester XT is on the absolute top of my shopping list as a replacement for my 2011 Kia Sportage SX. I like the Kia, but nothing beats a Subaru.


I really miss my 2009 Subaru Forester XT:




(That's the WRX SPT exhaust on it)





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Old 12-11-2012, 04:02 PM   #60
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Let me be the first. I drove a loaner 2011 Outback with 2.5 and CVT for a few days. I prefer a 4 spd automatic ;-)

My issue is with the standing start. It just falls flat, sorta scary pulling out into traffic, you have to be quick across the oncoming lane around Boston and the CVT can't get it done. That is my only problem with the whole thing but for me it would be a deal breaker. The Nissan version in the Altima is not as bad standing start it is livable. Maybe they have fixed that with the latest versions.
Yeah, I was speaking from experience with the new CVT from the 2012 Impreza. The 2013 Outback/Legacy have the CVT revised and it's supposed to be a lot smoother. I HAVE driven the Outback with CVT (2011, I believe) and I agree, I wasn't impressed with the starting either.

I will say that I stand corrected, though, since I wasn't being specific! haha Thanks.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:03 PM   #61
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Let me be the first. I drove a loaner 2011 Outback with 2.5 and CVT for a few days. I prefer a 4 spd automatic ;-)

My issue is with the standing start. It just falls flat, sorta scary pulling out into traffic, you have to be quick across the oncoming lane around Boston and the CVT can't get it done. That is my only problem with the whole thing but for me it would be a deal breaker. The Nissan version in the Altima is not as bad standing start it is livable. Maybe they have fixed that with the latest versions.
GodWhomIsMike, I knew Subaru would get you to return!!!
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:01 PM   #62
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GodWhomIsMike, I knew Subaru would get you to return!!!
This is the current ride:



It's fast, comfortable, and has a good audio system. I don't trust it like the Forester is foul weather. It's also hasn't been as bulletproof as the Forester was either.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:30 PM   #63
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I know this. I remember when you bought it, I think it was last year. You were saying that Subaru hadn't made anything compelling and worthy of their consideration at that time. I think the 2014 Forester XT is your ticket back to Subaruland!
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:55 PM   #64
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From what I've heard from a local dealership, there is still a tmic, but it has ductwork from the top of the grill flowing under the hood to the tmic.
This is exactly what the Speed3 and Speed6 have and it's extremely effective. I really like the look of this thing. I hope Subaru has drastically refined the interior. If this thing isn't littered with soft-touch surfaces and no rattles, then I will be beyond disappointed. Now, if only they could drop their diesel engine in this badboy, we'd be set!
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:40 PM   #65
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Are any other wheels available? I dont think I could deal with those even for snows.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #66
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VERY nice! O.O I can't wait to see this is person!!
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:40 AM   #67
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Boo, it looks like that agressive bulldog like bumper and the wheels from the first post are XT only. The Na version looks a great deal more humdrum cuv...

The blue one is the NA http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/29/2...ester-la-2012/
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:30 AM   #68
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Aerodynamics.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next WRX/STI didn't have one. The WRC team went scoopless before they pulled out. They may keep it "just 'cause", but would be smart to get rid of it.
If that's the case, what's the point of having a top mount intercooler? They might as well have a front mount. If the new WRX line doesn't have a scoop, I really hope they go that route.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:29 AM   #69
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If that's the case, what's the point of having a top mount intercooler? They might as well have a front mount. If the new WRX line doesn't have a scoop, I really hope they go that route.
Scoop in the grille, scoop on the hood, doesn't matter where the air comes from or how it is ductedTMIC still works the same.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:32 AM   #70
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I think it's ugly again. I like the look of MY2006, but model yrs after that - I don't really care for.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:18 PM   #71
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Looks nice!
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:04 PM   #72
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If that's the case, what's the point of having a top mount intercooler? They might as well have a front mount. If the new WRX line doesn't have a scoop, I really hope they go that route.
Knowing Subaru, if you get into a front end collision, they don't want you to have to worry about all of that. Plus there's compromise with body integrity with FMIC, typically. Safety first.

This is my opinion for the Forester's placement, anyways.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:50 PM   #73
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Lower it, bigger turbo, bigger intercooler, Put a hood scoop on it, give it around 300HP and slap an STi sticker on it. than it will be good to go IMO
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:25 AM   #74
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We just had one land at our dealer for SOA. It is not the turbo model but has all the interior accessories. The new center display is a nice touch but looks a little to much for my taste with the new Navi display. The head lights are nicer that the outline of say Audi and VW, it is not brighter that the head light and blends in when you have the head lights on. Even though the interior is only a slight bit bigger than the 10 - 12 model it doesn't feel cramped.
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Old 12-29-2012, 02:36 PM   #75
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Looks like a bigger XV. I think Subaru should have intro the CVT along with the new FB engine back in 2011. I'm all for the improved fuel economy and the oil filter on top. Such a pain changing the filter on my 02 Impreza. When you loosen the seal all the oil comes out makes the filter slippery and more difficult to remove. The new location is much better imo.

One thing that does annoy me is that small piece of glass where the side mirrors used to mount. What is up with that trend? Started on the Prius, then Civic, Fit, Impreza and now the Forester too. Please car designers of the world stop doing that.
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